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Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2014,03:42) W Quote The word of God was not created:The man Jesus was. JOHN 1;1 “THE WORD” IS THE SON OF GOD WHO IS JESUS CHRIST AND HE WAS CREATED THE FIRST OF GOD CREATION ,COL;1;15-21
PROV;8;22-31 AND MANY OTHER SCRIPTURES
THEIR NOT ONE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS THAT JESUS WAS CREATED ON HIS CONCEPTION OR BIRTH AS A MAN TAKEN UPON HIM THE COVER OF FLESH
T.Read with your eyes open.
Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: ***who is the beginning***,
***the firstborn from the dead***;
that in all things he might have the ***preeminence***.1.He is the head of the church.
***The church was NOT before HIM***. THE CHURCH
CAME AFTER HIM.2. The first ***BORN FROM THE DEAD***.
A).born at birth; B).NOW BORN ONCE MORE IN SPIRIT
FORM.
***BORN AGAIN***.(born once: and born again).3.NO ONE WAS BORN FROM THE DEAD BEFORE HIM.
He is the first born again.4.The man Jesus was not the first man created.
Adam was the first man created.Why is knowledge kept away from them?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2014,05:09) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2014,03:42) W Quote The word of God was not created:The man Jesus was. JOHN 1;1 “THE WORD” IS THE SON OF GOD WHO IS JESUS CHRIST AND HE WAS CREATED THE FIRST OF GOD CREATION ,COL;1;15-21
PROV;8;22-31 AND MANY OTHER SCRIPTURES
THEIR NOT ONE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS THAT JESUS WAS CREATED ON HIS CONCEPTION OR BIRTH AS A MAN TAKEN UPON HIM THE COVER OF FLESH
T.Read with your eyes open.
Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: ***who is the beginning***,
***the firstborn from the dead***;
that in all things he might have the ***preeminence***.1.He is the head of the church.
***The church was NOT before HIM***. THE CHURCH
CAME AFTER HIM.2. The first ***BORN FROM THE DEAD***.
A).born at birth; B).NOW BORN ONCE MORE IN SPIRIT
FORM.
***BORN AGAIN***.(born once: and born again).3.NO ONE WAS BORN FROM THE DEAD BEFORE HIM.
He is the first born again.4.The man Jesus was not the first man created.
Adam was the first man created.Why is knowledge kept away from them?
wakeup.
wyou have shown me that he his the first of the dead ;
i was looking that he his the first of the living
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2014,10:45) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2014,05:09) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2014,03:42) W Quote The word of God was not created:The man Jesus was. JOHN 1;1 “THE WORD” IS THE SON OF GOD WHO IS JESUS CHRIST AND HE WAS CREATED THE FIRST OF GOD CREATION ,COL;1;15-21
PROV;8;22-31 AND MANY OTHER SCRIPTURES
THEIR NOT ONE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS THAT JESUS WAS CREATED ON HIS CONCEPTION OR BIRTH AS A MAN TAKEN UPON HIM THE COVER OF FLESH
T.Read with your eyes open.
Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: ***who is the beginning***,
***the firstborn from the dead***;
that in all things he might have the ***preeminence***.1.He is the head of the church.
***The church was NOT before HIM***. THE CHURCH
CAME AFTER HIM.2. The first ***BORN FROM THE DEAD***.
A).born at birth; B).NOW BORN ONCE MORE IN SPIRIT
FORM.
***BORN AGAIN***.(born once: and born again).3.NO ONE WAS BORN FROM THE DEAD BEFORE HIM.
He is the first born again.4.The man Jesus was not the first man created.
Adam was the first man created.Why is knowledge kept away from them?
wakeup.
wyou have shown me that he his the first of the dead ;
i was looking that he his the first of the living
T.God is from everlasing and His Word was in Him,and his name was not Jesus.
Jesus is the first resurrected from the dead.
He is the first born from the dead.This is very clear in colossians.
The Word was made flesh and *became* the Son of God.The Word of God was not created;but part of God.
Jesus was created.
Adam was the first man created in the flesh,not Jesus.
Jesus was the first created in spirit.The other scriptures will only back me up.
wakeup.
w
you have shown me that he his the first of the dead ;
i was looking that he his the first of the living
STILL WAITING
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2014,15:38) w you have shown me that he his the first of the dead ;
i was looking that he his the first of the living
STILL WAITING
T.Are we still about colossians or have you wondered around
to another place.Colossians says the first born from the dead.
What is born from the dead?
Sorry if it's too hard to answer.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2014,20:43) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2014,15:38) w you have shown me that he his the first of the dead ;
i was looking that he his the first of the living
STILL WAITING
T.Are we still about colossians or have you wondered around
to another place.Colossians says the first born from the dead.
What is born from the dead?
Sorry if it's too hard to answer.wakeup.
w
Col 1:15 He(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2014,06:31) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2014,20:43) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2014,15:38) w you have shown me that he his the first of the dead ;
i was looking that he his the first of the living
STILL WAITING
T.Are we still about colossians or have you wondered around
to another place.Colossians says the first born from the dead.
What is born from the dead?
Sorry if it's too hard to answer.wakeup.
w Col 1:15 He(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
T.Yes;the first *BORN AGAIN IN SPIRIT*.
HE IS THE FIRST BORN BEFORE ALL MEN.
NOT THE FIRST BORN BABY.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,03:23) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2014,06:31) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2014,20:43) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2014,15:38) w you have shown me that he his the first of the dead ;
i was looking that he his the first of the living
STILL WAITING
T.Are we still about colossians or have you wondered around
to another place.Colossians says the first born from the dead.
What is born from the dead?
Sorry if it's too hard to answer.wakeup.
w Col 1:15 He(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
T.Yes;the first *BORN AGAIN IN SPIRIT*.
HE IS THE FIRST BORN BEFORE ALL MEN.
NOT THE FIRST BORN BABY.wakeup.
WNO NEED FOR ADDITION TO SCRIPTURES OR EXPLANATION
FACE VALUE IS QUITE COMPLETE AND UNDERSTANDABLE
Col 1:15 He(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
terraricca,Jan. wrote:[/quote]
Quote W NO NEED FOR ADDITION TO SCRIPTURES OR EXPLANATION
FACE VALUE IS QUITE COMPLETE AND UNDERSTANDABLE
Col 1:15 He(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Read on to verse 18 Pierre, It gets more clear.Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church, Who is the beginning, the FIRSTBORN FROM THE DEAD: that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Jesus was not the first man created, Adam was. Jesus was THE WORD OF GOD in the beginning. Not a creature, but a creator. BIG DIFFERENCE.
Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 11 2014,12:57) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2014,10:21) Quote W NO NEED FOR ADDITION TO SCRIPTURES OR EXPLANATION
FACE VALUE IS QUITE COMPLETE AND UNDERSTANDABLE
Col 1:15 He(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Read on to verse 18 Pierre, It gets more clear.Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church, Who is the beginning, the FIRSTBORN FROM THE DEAD: that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Jesus was not the first man created, Adam was. Jesus was THE WORD OF GOD in the beginning. Not a creature, but a creator. BIG DIFFERENCE.
j42do you understand the scriptures
Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisibleCol 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead,so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
i hope this will help ???TO SEE THAT JESUS AS SUPREMACY IN LIVE AND DEAD AND SO OVER ALL OF CREATION
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2014,10:21) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,03:23) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2014,06:31) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2014,20:43) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2014,15:38) w you have shown me that he his the first of the dead ;
i was looking that he his the first of the living
STILL WAITING
T.Are we still about colossians or have you wondered around
to another place.Colossians says the first born from the dead.
What is born from the dead?
Sorry if it's too hard to answer.wakeup.
w Col 1:15 He(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
T.Yes;the first *BORN AGAIN IN SPIRIT*.
HE IS THE FIRST BORN BEFORE ALL MEN.
NOT THE FIRST BORN BABY.wakeup.
WNO NEED FOR ADDITION TO SCRIPTURES OR EXPLANATION
FACE VALUE IS QUITE COMPLETE AND UNDERSTANDABLE
Col 1:15 He(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
T.Colossians 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Colossians 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
(SPEAKING ABOUT THE MAN JESUS,NOTHING ELSE).Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Colossians 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
Colossians 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
Colossians 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
Colossians 1:21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
Colossians 1:22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight
THAT IS ALL ABOUT *THE MAN JESUS*.
NOTHING ABOUT THE WORD OF GOD.
TWO DIFFERENT SUBJECTS.
YOU CAN NOT,HAVE NOT KNOWN THAT THEY ARE TWO
DIFFERENT SUBJECTS.1.BEFORE HIS BIRTH;THE DAYS OF HIM CREATING ALL THINGS.
2.JESUS, THE WORD MADE FLESH,DWELLING AMONGST MEN.
Anyway,it gets too complicated for you to understand.
wakeup.
J42
Quote Jesus was not the first man created, Adam was. Jesus was THE WORD OF GOD in the beginning. Not a creature, but a creator. BIG DIFFERENCE. I NEVER SAID THAT JESUS WAS A MAN IN HEAVEN ,AND I NEVER SAID HE WAS CREATED ON EARTH NETHER YOU DID ; YES JESUS IS “THE WORD ” THE SON OF GOD ,THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON THAT CAME DOWN TO BE COVERED WITH FLESH THROUGH THE MAIDEN ACCORDING TO GOD'S WORD ,
YOUR STUMBLING BLOCK IS TO BELIEVE THAT “THE WORD ” WAS NOT A FIRST BEING THAT GOD HIMSELF CREATED OUT OF HIS OWN NATURE ,LIKE SCRIPTURES SAYS;Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
BUT IT IS YOURS TO FIGURE OUT BEFORE THE STONE (JESUS) BECOME THE CAP STONE TO YOU
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2014,23:56) J42 Quote Jesus was not the first man created, Adam was. Jesus was THE WORD OF GOD in the beginning. Not a creature, but a creator. BIG DIFFERENCE. I NEVER SAID THAT JESUS WAS A MAN IN HEAVEN ,AND I NEVER SAID HE WAS CREATED ON EARTH NETHER YOU DID ; YES JESUS IS “THE WORD ” THE SON OF GOD ,THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON THAT CAME DOWN TO BE COVERED WITH FLESH THROUGH THE MAIDEN ACCORDING TO GOD'S WORD ,
YOUR STUMBLING BLOCK IS TO BELIEVE THAT “THE WORD ” WAS NOT A FIRST BEING THAT GOD HIMSELF CREATED OUT OF HIS OWN NATURE ,LIKE SCRIPTURES SAYS;Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
BUT IT IS YOURS TO FIGURE OUT BEFORE THE STONE (JESUS) BECOME THE CAP STONE TO YOU
T.Are you implying that the Word of God was created by God in the beginning?
That makes the Word a created creature.
Please give us some insight.wakeup.
W
Quote Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
(SPEAKING ABOUT THE MAN JESUS,NOTHING ELSE).THE FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE ;;;;TELL ME WHO IS INCLUDED “OF EVERY ” WHAT ARE THE EXCLUSIONS
Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible,
WHAT ARE THE “ALL THINGS”
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,00:39) W Quote Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
(SPEAKING ABOUT THE MAN JESUS,NOTHING ELSE).THE FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE ;;;;TELL ME WHO IS INCLUDED “OF EVERY ” WHAT ARE THE EXCLUSIONS
Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible,
WHAT ARE THE “ALL THINGS”
T.Decerning the scriptures is important.
1Colossians is all about Jesus.(NOT THE WORD OF GOD).
The first of every creature resurrected.The Word of God is NOT a creature.
HE IS THE CREATOR OF ALL CREATURES.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,23:09) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,00:39) W Quote Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
(SPEAKING ABOUT THE MAN JESUS,NOTHING ELSE).THE FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE ;;;;TELL ME WHO IS INCLUDED “OF EVERY ” WHAT ARE THE EXCLUSIONS
Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible,
WHAT ARE THE “ALL THINGS”
T.Decerning the scriptures is important.
1Colossians is all about Jesus.(NOT THE WORD OF GOD).
The first of every creature resurrected.The Word of God is NOT a creature.
HE IS THE CREATOR OF ALL CREATURES.wakeup.
WYOU NEVER ANSWER MY QUESTIONS ,THIS IS VERY TIRING
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,05:05) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,23:09) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,00:39) W Quote Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
(SPEAKING ABOUT THE MAN JESUS,NOTHING ELSE).THE FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE ;;;;TELL ME WHO IS INCLUDED “OF EVERY ” WHAT ARE THE EXCLUSIONS
Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible,
WHAT ARE THE “ALL THINGS”
T.Decerning the scriptures is important.
1Colossians is all about Jesus.(NOT THE WORD OF GOD).
The first of every creature resurrected.The Word of God is NOT a creature.
HE IS THE CREATOR OF ALL CREATURES.wakeup.
WYOU NEVER ANSWER MY QUESTIONS ,THIS IS VERY TIRING
T.I have answered.
I said;Paul was speaking about Jesus.
He was not the first born *creature*.
There were many creatures before him born.
SO PAUL WAS SPEAKING OF THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS.
THE FIRST BORN FROM THE DEAD. FROM THE DEAD.
FROM THE DEAD.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2014,06:17) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,05:05) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,23:09) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,00:39) W Quote Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
(SPEAKING ABOUT THE MAN JESUS,NOTHING ELSE).THE FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE ;;;;TELL ME WHO IS INCLUDED “OF EVERY ” WHAT ARE THE EXCLUSIONS
Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible,
WHAT ARE THE “ALL THINGS”
T.Decerning the scriptures is important.
1Colossians is all about Jesus.(NOT THE WORD OF GOD).
The first of every creature resurrected.The Word of God is NOT a creature.
HE IS THE CREATOR OF ALL CREATURES.wakeup.
WYOU NEVER ANSWER MY QUESTIONS ,THIS IS VERY TIRING
T.I have answered.
I said;Paul was speaking about Jesus.
He was not the first born *creature*.
There were many creatures before him born.
SO PAUL WAS SPEAKING OF THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS.
THE FIRST BORN FROM THE DEAD. FROM THE DEAD.
FROM THE DEAD.wakeup.
wthat is totally against the scriptures ,i am out
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,11:28) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2014,06:17) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,05:05) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,23:09) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,00:39) W Quote Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
(SPEAKING ABOUT THE MAN JESUS,NOTHING ELSE).THE FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE ;;;;TELL ME WHO IS INCLUDED “OF EVERY ” WHAT ARE THE EXCLUSIONS
Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible,
WHAT ARE THE “ALL THINGS”
T.Decerning the scriptures is important.
1Colossians is all about Jesus.(NOT THE WORD OF GOD).
The first of every creature resurrected.The Word of God is NOT a creature.
HE IS THE CREATOR OF ALL CREATURES.wakeup.
WYOU NEVER ANSWER MY QUESTIONS ,THIS IS VERY TIRING
T.I have answered.
I said;Paul was speaking about Jesus.
He was not the first born *creature*.
There were many creatures before him born.
SO PAUL WAS SPEAKING OF THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS.
THE FIRST BORN FROM THE DEAD. FROM THE DEAD.
FROM THE DEAD.wakeup.
wthat is totally against the scriptures ,i am out
T.Have a nice rest Terra.
Start again next time.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2014,06:44) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,11:28) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 12 2014,06:17) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,05:05) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2014,23:09) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2014,00:39) W Quote Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
(SPEAKING ABOUT THE MAN JESUS,NOTHING ELSE).THE FIRST BORN OF EVERY CREATURE ;;;;TELL ME WHO IS INCLUDED “OF EVERY ” WHAT ARE THE EXCLUSIONS
Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible,
WHAT ARE THE “ALL THINGS”
T.Decerning the scriptures is important.
1Colossians is all about Jesus.(NOT THE WORD OF GOD).
The first of every creature resurrected.The Word of God is NOT a creature.
HE IS THE CREATOR OF ALL CREATURES.wakeup.
WYOU NEVER ANSWER MY QUESTIONS ,THIS IS VERY TIRING
T.I have answered.
I said;Paul was speaking about Jesus.
He was not the first born *creature*.
There were many creatures before him born.
SO PAUL WAS SPEAKING OF THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS.
THE FIRST BORN FROM THE DEAD. FROM THE DEAD.
FROM THE DEAD.wakeup.
wthat is totally against the scriptures ,i am out
T.Have a nice rest Terra.
Start again next time.wakeup.
wthere is nothing to discuss with you in scriptures you deny them ,and so wasting people time ,
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