Eternal past existence of the son

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2014,12:44)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 02 2014,11:54) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,14:38) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,14:27) w then be nicer to me al of the times not only for one day T. It takes two to tango. I am hard with speaking scriptures only. Sometimes shock therapy will work better. For all come with soothing words,only to deceive. wakeup. W YOU CAN DO ALL THOSE THINGS VERY WELL , BUT YOU DO THE SAME THING WHEN YOU ARE PROVEN WRONG FROM SCRIPTURES ,OR OTHERWISE , T. This is the piont; I am wrong from your doctrines perspective. Not from the scriptures. Because you have not shown scriptures that can contradict what I teach. wakeup.

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the scribes and pharisees where thinking the same thing ,

CHRIST TOLD THEM THAT THEY DID NOT BELIEVE THE SCRIPTURES AND THAT IS ALSO MY POINT TO YOU

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,04:48)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2014,12:44) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 02 2014,11:54) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,14:38) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,14:27) w then be nicer to me al of the times not only for one day T. It takes two to tango. I am hard with speaking scriptures only. Sometimes shock therapy will work better. For all come with soothing words,only to deceive. wakeup. W YOU CAN DO ALL THOSE THINGS VERY WELL , BUT YOU DO THE SAME THING WHEN YOU ARE PROVEN WRONG FROM SCRIPTURES ,OR OTHERWISE , T. This is the piont; I am wrong from your doctrines perspective. Not from the scriptures. Because you have not shown scriptures that can contradict what I teach. wakeup. w the scribes and pharisees where thinking the same thing , CHRIST TOLD THEM THAT THEY DID NOT BELIEVE THE SCRIPTURES AND THAT IS ALSO MY POINT TO YOU

T.

You can say what you like; that fine with me,
but you have no evidence to proof your case.
So I am not concerned.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,03:40)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,04:48) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2014,12:44) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 02 2014,11:54) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,14:38) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,14:27) w then be nicer to me al of the times not only for one day T. It takes two to tango. I am hard with speaking scriptures only. Sometimes shock therapy will work better. For all come with soothing words,only to deceive. wakeup. W YOU CAN DO ALL THOSE THINGS VERY WELL , BUT YOU DO THE SAME THING WHEN YOU ARE PROVEN WRONG FROM SCRIPTURES ,OR OTHERWISE , T. This is the piont; I am wrong from your doctrines perspective. Not from the scriptures. Because you have not shown scriptures that can contradict what I teach. wakeup. w the scribes and pharisees where thinking the same thing , CHRIST TOLD THEM THAT THEY DID NOT BELIEVE THE SCRIPTURES AND THAT IS ALSO MY POINT TO YOU T. You can say what you like; that fine with me, but you have no evidence to proof your case. So I am not concerned. wakeup.

W

YOU SEE ,YOU ARE WRONG ;BECAUSE ALL YOUR TEACHINGS COULD NOT HAVE BEEN SAID UNLESS YOU HAVE BEEN TRAINED BY MEN ;PEOPLE THAT ONLY RELY ON SCRIPTURES COME OUT IN ONLY WHAT SCRIPTURES SAYS ,

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,08:54)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,03:40) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,04:48) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 02 2014,12:44) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 02 2014,11:54) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,14:38) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,14:27) w then be nicer to me al of the times not only for one day T. It takes two to tango. I am hard with speaking scriptures only. Sometimes shock therapy will work better. For all come with soothing words,only to deceive. wakeup. W YOU CAN DO ALL THOSE THINGS VERY WELL , BUT YOU DO THE SAME THING WHEN YOU ARE PROVEN WRONG FROM SCRIPTURES ,OR OTHERWISE , T. This is the piont; I am wrong from your doctrines perspective. Not from the scriptures. Because you have not shown scriptures that can contradict what I teach. wakeup. w the scribes and pharisees where thinking the same thing , CHRIST TOLD THEM THAT THEY DID NOT BELIEVE THE SCRIPTURES AND THAT IS ALSO MY POINT TO YOU T. You can say what you like; that fine with me, but you have no evidence to proof your case. So I am not concerned. wakeup. W YOU SEE ,YOU ARE WRONG ;BECAUSE ALL YOUR TEACHINGS COULD NOT HAVE BEEN SAID UNLESS YOU HAVE BEEN TRAINED BY MEN ;PEOPLE THAT ONLY RELY ON SCRIPTURES COME OUT IN ONLY WHAT SCRIPTURES SAYS ,

T.

As I have said;as long the evidence is not
put forward,I am not concerned.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

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Ps 81:8 “Hear, O my people, and I will warn you—
if you would but listen to me, O Israel!
Ps 81:9 You shall have no foreign god among you;
you shall not bow down to an alien god.
Ps 81:10 I am the LORD your God,
who brought you up out of Egypt.
Open wide your mouth and I will fill it.

Ps 81:11 “But my people would not listen to me;
Israel would not submit to me.
Ps 81:12 So I gave them over to their stubborn hearts
to follow their own devices.

YOUR EVIDENCE ARE THE SCRIPTURES THEM SELF NOT ME OR ANYONE ELSE ;BUT THE SPIRIT IN TRUTH ,THAT IS YOUR JUDGE

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,14:08)

W Ps 81:8 “Hear, O my people, and I will warn you— if you would but listen to me, O Israel! Ps 81:9 You shall have no foreign god among you; you shall not bow down to an alien god. Ps 81:10 I am the LORD your God, who brought you up out of Egypt. Open wide your mouth and I will fill it. Ps 81:11 “But my people would not listen to me; Israel would not submit to me. Ps 81:12 So I gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. YOUR EVIDENCE ARE THE SCRIPTURES THEM SELF NOT ME OR ANYONE ELSE ;BUT THE SPIRIT IN TRUTH ,THAT IS YOUR JUDGE

T.

Where are your scriptures to proof and reproof?

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, **for reproof, for correction**, for **instruction** in righteousness:

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,17:24)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,14:08) W Ps 81:8 “Hear, O my people, and I will warn you— if you would but listen to me, O Israel! Ps 81:9 You shall have no foreign god among you; you shall not bow down to an alien god. Ps 81:10 I am the LORD your God, who brought you up out of Egypt. Open wide your mouth and I will fill it. Ps 81:11 “But my people would not listen to me; Israel would not submit to me. Ps 81:12 So I gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. YOUR EVIDENCE ARE THE SCRIPTURES THEM SELF NOT ME OR ANYONE ELSE ;BUT THE SPIRIT IN TRUTH ,THAT IS YOUR JUDGE T. Where are your scriptures to proof and reproof? 2 Timothy 3:16   All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, **for reproof, for correction**, for **instruction** in righteousness: wakeup.

w

do not look at me ,i know i am in the true teachings of scriptures with no men opinion attached to it ,some blemish but nothing that cannot be sorted out in time

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2014,12:39)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,17:24) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,14:08) W Ps 81:8 “Hear, O my people, and I will warn you— if you would but listen to me, O Israel! Ps 81:9 You shall have no foreign god among you; you shall not bow down to an alien god. Ps 81:10 I am the LORD your God, who brought you up out of Egypt. Open wide your mouth and I will fill it. Ps 81:11 “But my people would not listen to me; Israel would not submit to me. Ps 81:12 So I gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. YOUR EVIDENCE ARE THE SCRIPTURES THEM SELF NOT ME OR ANYONE ELSE ;BUT THE SPIRIT IN TRUTH ,THAT IS YOUR JUDGE T. Where are your scriptures to proof and reproof? 2 Timothy 3:16   All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, **for reproof, for correction**, for **instruction** in righteousness: wakeup. w do not look at me ,i know i am in the true teachings of scriptures with no men opinion attached to it ,some blemish but nothing that cannot be sorted out in time

T.

You only think you are in the truth,but are far from the truth.
Because you are full of contradictions.
The scribes also think that they are in the truth,and so killed the truth.

You have made Jesus to **A GOD**,AND JUST GIVE HIM HONOUR.

You will come to the Lord and say Lord,Lord,
I have the truth,I have been reading the scriptures in your name,*AND I HONOUR YOU*.And what will the Lord say to you?
Go away you worker of lawlessness,I dont know you.
**For I am not a God**.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 04 2014,08:38)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2014,12:39) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,17:24) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,14:08) W Ps 81:8 “Hear, O my people, and I will warn you— if you would but listen to me, O Israel! Ps 81:9 You shall have no foreign god among you; you shall not bow down to an alien god. Ps 81:10 I am the LORD your God, who brought you up out of Egypt. Open wide your mouth and I will fill it. Ps 81:11 “But my people would not listen to me; Israel would not submit to me. Ps 81:12 So I gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. YOUR EVIDENCE ARE THE SCRIPTURES THEM SELF NOT ME OR ANYONE ELSE ;BUT THE SPIRIT IN TRUTH ,THAT IS YOUR JUDGE T. Where are your scriptures to proof and reproof? 2 Timothy 3:16   All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, **for reproof, for correction**, for **instruction** in righteousness: wakeup. w do not look at me ,i know i am in the true teachings of scriptures with no men opinion attached to it ,some blemish but nothing that cannot be sorted out in time T. You only think you are in the truth,but are far from the truth. Because you are full of contradictions. The scribes also think that they are in the truth,and so killed the truth. You have made Jesus to **A GOD**,AND JUST GIVE HIM HONOUR. You will come to the Lord and say Lord,Lord, I have the truth,I have been reading the scriptures in your name,*AND I HONOUR YOU*.And what will the Lord say to you? Go away you worker of lawlessness,I dont know you. **For I am not a God**. wakeup.

W

SCRIPTURES ARE SAYING CHRIST HIS A GOD ,NOT ME ,

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 05 2014,17:04)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 04 2014,08:38) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 04 2014,12:39) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 03 2014,17:24) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 03 2014,14:08) W Ps 81:8 “Hear, O my people, and I will warn you— if you would but listen to me, O Israel! Ps 81:9 You shall have no foreign god among you; you shall not bow down to an alien god. Ps 81:10 I am the LORD your God, who brought you up out of Egypt. Open wide your mouth and I will fill it. Ps 81:11 “But my people would not listen to me; Israel would not submit to me. Ps 81:12 So I gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. YOUR EVIDENCE ARE THE SCRIPTURES THEM SELF NOT ME OR ANYONE ELSE ;BUT THE SPIRIT IN TRUTH ,THAT IS YOUR JUDGE T. Where are your scriptures to proof and reproof? 2 Timothy 3:16   All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, **for reproof, for correction**, for **instruction** in righteousness: wakeup. w do not look at me ,i know i am in the true teachings of scriptures with no men opinion attached to it ,some blemish but nothing that cannot be sorted out in time T. You only think you are in the truth,but are far from the truth. Because you are full of contradictions. The scribes also think that they are in the truth,and so killed the truth. You have made Jesus to **A GOD**,AND JUST GIVE HIM HONOUR. You will come to the Lord and say Lord,Lord, I have the truth,I have been reading the scriptures in your name,*AND I HONOUR YOU*.And what will the Lord say to you? Go away you worker of lawlessness,I dont know you. **For I am not a God**. wakeup. W SCRIPTURES ARE SAYING CHRIST HIS A GOD ,NOT ME ,

T.

Christ IS; OR christ HIS?

wakeup.

[Proclaimer]

A son who does not come from a father but is as eternally old as his father is not a son, but more of a brother than a son. A son comes from a father. A father is older than a son. A son can be like his father, but he originates from his father.

Basic stuff, but Babylon has a way of confusing people and drawing them away from simplicity in Christ.

[Wakeup]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 08 2014,21:47)

A son who does not come from a father but is as eternally old as his father is not a son, but more of a brother than a son. A son comes from a father. A father is older than a son. A son can be like his father, but he originates from his father. Basic stuff, but Babylon has a way of confusing people and drawing them away from simplicity in Christ.

True.
The Word became a son at birth.
This is when his name was called Jesus the son of God.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,17:41)

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 08 2014,21:47) A son who does not come from a father but is as eternally old as his father is not a son, but more of a brother than a son. A son comes from a father. A father is older than a son. A son can be like his father, but he originates from his father. Basic stuff, but Babylon has a way of confusing people and drawing them away from simplicity in Christ. True. The Word became a son at birth. This is when his name was called Jesus the son of God. wakeup.

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The Word became a son at birth.

AND WHEN WAS THAT HIS BIRTH I MEAN

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2014,01:04)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,17:41) Quote (t8 @ Jan. 08 2014,21:47) A son who does not come from a father but is as eternally old as his father is not a son, but more of a brother than a son. A son comes from a father. A father is older than a son. A son can be like his father, but he originates from his father. Basic stuff, but Babylon has a way of confusing people and drawing them away from simplicity in Christ. True. The Word became a son at birth. This is when his name was called Jesus the son of God. wakeup. W Quote The Word became a son at birth. AND WHEN WAS THAT HIS BIRTH I MEAN

T.

The Word was made flesh at birth.
The Word became a Son at birth.
This was two thousand years ago.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 09 2014,01:11)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2014,01:04) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2014,17:41) Quote (t8 @ Jan. 08 2014,21:47) A son who does not come from a father but is as eternally old as his father is not a son, but more of a brother than a son. A son comes from a father. A father is older than a son. A son can be like his father, but he originates from his father. Basic stuff, but Babylon has a way of confusing people and drawing them away from simplicity in Christ. True. The Word became a son at birth. This is when his name was called Jesus the son of God. wakeup. W Quote The Word became a son at birth. AND WHEN WAS THAT HIS BIRTH I MEAN T. The Word was made flesh at birth. The Word became a Son at birth. This was two thousand years ago. wakeup.

w

that is what i understood from you ,but that is not what scriptures says ;it says that HE IS THE FIRST BORN /BRING FORTH/CREATED OVER ALL CREATION ,

SO THIS COULD ONLY MEAN THAT HE WAS THEIR BESIDE GOD ALMIGHTY BEFORE ANY OTHER CREATION STARTED ;SEE COL;1;15-21 PROV 8;22-31

[journey42]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2014,07:40)

W Quote The Word became a son at birth. AND WHEN WAS THAT HIS BIRTH I MEAN

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T. The Word was made flesh at birth. The Word became a Son at birth. This was two thousand years ago. wakeup.

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w that is what i understood from you ,but that is not what scriptures says ;it says that HE IS THE FIRST BORN /BRING FORTH/CREATED OVER ALL CREATION , SO THIS COULD ONLY MEAN THAT HE WAS THEIR BESIDE GOD ALMIGHTY BEFORE ANY OTHER CREATION STARTED ;SEE COL;1;15-21 PROV 8;22-31

That is because you refused to receive the true meaning of “born again”, as we have tried to help you with.  Because of this, you cannot even understand this simple scripture.  You have reached another stumbling block, among the many.

[terraricca]

Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 09 2014,07:07)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2014,07:40) W Quote The Word became a son at birth. AND WHEN WAS THAT HIS BIRTH I MEAN Quote T. The Word was made flesh at birth. The Word became a Son at birth. This was two thousand years ago. wakeup. Quote w that is what i understood from you ,but that is not what scriptures says ;it says that HE IS THE FIRST BORN /BRING FORTH/CREATED OVER ALL CREATION , SO THIS COULD ONLY MEAN THAT HE WAS THEIR BESIDE GOD ALMIGHTY BEFORE ANY OTHER CREATION STARTED ;SEE COL;1;15-21 PROV 8;22-31 That is because you refused to receive the true meaning of “born again”, as we have tried to help you with.  Because of this, you cannot even understand this simple scripture.  You have reached another stumbling block, among the many.

J42

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That is because you refused to receive the true meaning of “born again”,

YOU TRY TO MAKE CHRIST A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN ,YES I CAN NOT ACCEPT THAT THIS IS NOT TEACH BY SCRIPTURES YOU HAVE MADE OUT OF “BORN AGAIN ” A SUPER METAPHOR ,WHEN IT ONLY MEAN A PURE CHANGE IN HEART

YOU ARE FOLLOWING MEN DOCTRINES ;

FOR THOSE REASON YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND TRUTH IN SCRIPTURES ,

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2014,12:41)

Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 09 2014,07:07) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2014,07:40) W Quote The Word became a son at birth. AND WHEN WAS THAT HIS BIRTH I MEAN Quote T. The Word was made flesh at birth. The Word became a Son at birth. This was two thousand years ago. wakeup. Quote w that is what i understood from you ,but that is not what scriptures says ;it says that HE IS THE FIRST BORN /BRING FORTH/CREATED OVER ALL CREATION , SO THIS COULD ONLY MEAN THAT HE WAS THEIR BESIDE GOD ALMIGHTY BEFORE ANY OTHER CREATION STARTED ;SEE COL;1;15-21 PROV 8;22-31 That is because you refused to receive the true meaning of “born again”, as we have tried to help you with.  Because of this, you cannot even understand this simple scripture.  You have reached another stumbling block, among the many. J42 Quote That is because you refused to receive the true meaning of “born again”, YOU TRY TO MAKE CHRIST A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN ,YES I CAN NOT ACCEPT THAT THIS IS NOT TEACH  BY SCRIPTURES YOU HAVE MADE OUT OF “BORN AGAIN ” A SUPER METAPHOR ,WHEN IT ONLY MEAN A PURE CHANGE IN HEART YOU ARE FOLLOWING MEN DOCTRINES ; FOR THOSE REASON YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND TRUTH IN SCRIPTURES ,

T.

Jesus Christ in the flesh is our Holy brother.
The only begotten son of the Father.
We need to follow *His way* of doing things in our life.
He is our mould.We need to come out like Him.
He was dead to the world,He only lives to do the will of His Father.So we shoulld be as Him.

The word of God was not created:The man Jesus was.

He was simply brought forth,
***FROM THE INSIDE TO THE OUTSIDE OF GOD***
FROM THE WILL **IN HIS MIND**; OUT INTO A BEING.
THE IMAGE OF GOD HIMSELF. AND THROUGH HIM ALL THINGS WERE CREATED.
(I preceeded OUT from the father)john 17:8.
*from the inside, to the outside*.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

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Jesus Christ in the flesh is our Holy brother.

THIS IS NOT TRUE ,CHRIST AS ONLY 144K BROTHERS AND THOSE ARE ALL OF THOSE THAT WILL BE WITH HIM IN HEAVEN THE ONLY REDEEMED FROM THE EARTH

[terraricca]

W

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The word of God was not created:The man Jesus was.

JOHN 1;1 “THE WORD” IS THE SON OF GOD WHO IS JESUS CHRIST AND HE WAS CREATED THE FIRST OF GOD CREATION ,COL;1;15-21

PROV;8;22-31 AND MANY OTHER SCRIPTURES

THEIR NOT ONE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS THAT JESUS WAS CREATED ON HIS CONCEPTION OR BIRTH AS A MAN TAKEN UPON HIM THE COVER OF FLESH

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