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  • December 28, 2013 at 4:44 am#364809
    terraricca
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    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 28 2013,06:32)

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 25 2013,22:08)
    MikeB.

    1. You agreed that before creation; God was all by himself.

    2. He had a MIND.

    3.He used his THINKING to Plan
     what to do, and how to do it.

    4. Now He speaks: His Word came out.*(the Word was with
      God)*.

    5.*In the beginning was the Word*.


    I'm good with 1, 2, 3, and 5.

    So explain #4 to me…………  Are you saying that God, who has His own mind, spoke, and the Word that came out of His mouth all of a sudden had a mind of ITS OWN, completely separate from the mind of God?


    Mikeb.

    It is not like what you are saying.

    God had made a decision to start creating.
    He brought forth his living Word out of Himself.
    And gave Him his express image.
         **(now the Word was with God)**.
    This was his plan from the beginning. And created all things through Him.

    wakeup.


    w

    Quote
    God had made a decision to start creating.

    how do you know ??? where you there ???

    Quote
    He brought forth his living Word out of Himself.

    how do you know ??? where you there ???

    Quote
    And gave Him his express image.
         **(now the Word was with God)**.

    how do you know ??? was his spoken words not with him before he said them ??? why??? if your answer is “NO”


    T.

    How do you know Jesus?
    Were you there?
    You must belong to the mob throwing stones,
    and mocking Jesus.

    wakeup.


    W

    MY REASON FOR SAYING THIS IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT PLACED ONE SINGLE SCRIPTURE TO BACK UP YOUR STORY ,AND I DO NOT RECALL READING IN SCRIPTURES ,YOUR VIEW ,

    BUT I HAVE ALWAYS BACKUP MY VIEW WITH SCRIPTURES


    T.

    Where is your scripture now?

    There are no scriptures regarding the creation of angels,
    And of the four beast, and all the mansions.

    Can you show us?

    wakeup.


    W

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    There are no scriptures regarding the creation of angels,
    And of the four beast, and all the mansions.

    I WILL GIVE YOU A CLUE ;THE MANSIONS JESUS TOLD HIS DISCIPLES ;

    JN 14:2 “In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.

    Jn 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

    let see what you got ???

    December 28, 2013 at 3:05 pm#364832
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2013,14:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 28 2013,06:32)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2013,01:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,12:19)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,13:48)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,08:07)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 27 2013,11:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 25 2013,22:08)
    MikeB.

    1. You agreed that before creation; God was all by himself.

    2. He had a MIND.

    3.He used his THINKING to Plan
     what to do, and how to do it.

    4. Now He speaks: His Word came out.*(the Word was with
      God)*.

    5.*In the beginning was the Word*.


    I'm good with 1, 2, 3, and 5.

    So explain #4 to me…………  Are you saying that God, who has His own mind, spoke, and the Word that came out of His mouth all of a sudden had a mind of ITS OWN, completely separate from the mind of God?


    Mikeb.

    It is not like what you are saying.

    God had made a decision to start creating.
    He brought forth his living Word out of Himself.
    And gave Him his express image.
         **(now the Word was with God)**.
    This was his plan from the beginning. And created all things through Him.

    wakeup.


    w

    Quote
    God had made a decision to start creating.

    how do you know ??? where you there ???

    Quote
    He brought forth his living Word out of Himself.

    how do you know ??? where you there ???

    Quote
    And gave Him his express image.
         **(now the Word was with God)**.

    how do you know ??? was his spoken words not with him before he said them ??? why??? if your answer is “NO”


    T.

    How do you know Jesus?
    Were you there?
    You must belong to the mob throwing stones,
    and mocking Jesus.

    wakeup.


    W

    MY REASON FOR SAYING THIS IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT PLACED ONE SINGLE SCRIPTURE TO BACK UP YOUR STORY ,AND I DO NOT RECALL READING IN SCRIPTURES ,YOUR VIEW ,

    BUT I HAVE ALWAYS BACKUP MY VIEW WITH SCRIPTURES


    T.

    Where is your scripture now?

    There are no scriptures regarding the creation of angels,
    And of the four beast, and all the mansions.

    Can you show us?

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    There are no scriptures regarding the creation of angels,
    And of the four beast, and all the mansions.

    I WILL GIVE YOU A CLUE ;THE MANSIONS JESUS TOLD HIS DISCIPLES ;

    JN 14:2 “In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.

    Jn 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

    let see what you got ???


    T.

    You first.

    wakeup.

    December 28, 2013 at 4:36 pm#364838
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 28 2013,20:05)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2013,14:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 28 2013,06:32)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2013,01:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,12:19)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,13:48)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,08:07)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 27 2013,11:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 25 2013,22:08)
    MikeB.

    1. You agreed that before creation; God was all by himself.

    2. He had a MIND.

    3.He used his THINKING to Plan
     what to do, and how to do it.

    4. Now He speaks: His Word came out.*(the Word was with
      God)*.

    5.*In the beginning was the Word*.


    I'm good with 1, 2, 3, and 5.

    So explain #4 to me…………  Are you saying that God, who has His own mind, spoke, and the Word that came out of His mouth all of a sudden had a mind of ITS OWN, completely separate from the mind of God?


    Mikeb.

    It is not like what you are saying.

    God had made a decision to start creating.
    He brought forth his living Word out of Himself.
    And gave Him his express image.
         **(now the Word was with God)**.
    This was his plan from the beginning. And created all things through Him.

    wakeup.


    w

    Quote
    God had made a decision to start creating.

    how do you know ??? where you there ???

    Quote
    He brought forth his living Word out of Himself.

    how do you know ??? where you there ???

    Quote
    And gave Him his express image.
         **(now the Word was with God)**.

    how do you know ??? was his spoken words not with him before he said them ??? why??? if your answer is “NO”


    T.

    How do you know Jesus?
    Were you there?
    You must belong to the mob throwing stones,
    and mocking Jesus.

    wakeup.


    W

    MY REASON FOR SAYING THIS IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT PLACED ONE SINGLE SCRIPTURE TO BACK UP YOUR STORY ,AND I DO NOT RECALL READING IN SCRIPTURES ,YOUR VIEW ,

    BUT I HAVE ALWAYS BACKUP MY VIEW WITH SCRIPTURES


    T.

    Where is your scripture now?

    There are no scriptures regarding the creation of angels,
    And of the four beast, and all the mansions.

    Can you show us?

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    There are no scriptures regarding the creation of angels,
    And of the four beast, and all the mansions.

    I WILL GIVE YOU A CLUE ;THE MANSIONS JESUS TOLD HIS DISCIPLES ;

    JN 14:2 “In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.

    Jn 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

    let see what you got ???


    T.

    You first.

    wakeup.


    w

    you are the second and now you want me to be the ones answering all your own questions

    do you have any understanding at all ???

    December 29, 2013 at 8:18 am#364910
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 29 2013,02:36)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 28 2013,20:05)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2013,14:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 28 2013,06:32)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 28 2013,01:55)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,12:19)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2013,13:48)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 27 2013,08:07)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 27 2013,11:03)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 25 2013,22:08)
    MikeB.

    1. You agreed that before creation; God was all by himself.

    2. He had a MIND.

    3.He used his THINKING to Plan
     what to do, and how to do it.

    4. Now He speaks: His Word came out.*(the Word was with
      God)*.

    5.*In the beginning was the Word*.


    I'm good with 1, 2, 3, and 5.

    So explain #4 to me…………  Are you saying that God, who has His own mind, spoke, and the Word that came out of His mouth all of a sudden had a mind of ITS OWN, completely separate from the mind of God?


    Mikeb.

    It is not like what you are saying.

    God had made a decision to start creating.
    He brought forth his living Word out of Himself.
    And gave Him his express image.
         **(now the Word was with God)**.
    This was his plan from the beginning. And created all things through Him.

    wakeup.


    w

    Quote
    God had made a decision to start creating.

    how do you know ??? where you there ???

    Quote
    He brought forth his living Word out of Himself.

    how do you know ??? where you there ???

    Quote
    And gave Him his express image.
         **(now the Word was with God)**.

    how do you know ??? was his spoken words not with him before he said them ??? why??? if your answer is “NO”


    T.

    How do you know Jesus?
    Were you there?
    You must belong to the mob throwing stones,
    and mocking Jesus.

    wakeup.


    W

    MY REASON FOR SAYING THIS IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOT PLACED ONE SINGLE SCRIPTURE TO BACK UP YOUR STORY ,AND I DO NOT RECALL READING IN SCRIPTURES ,YOUR VIEW ,

    BUT I HAVE ALWAYS BACKUP MY VIEW WITH SCRIPTURES


    T.

    Where is your scripture now?

    There are no scriptures regarding the creation of angels,
    And of the four beast, and all the mansions.

    Can you show us?

    wakeup.


    W

    Quote
    There are no scriptures regarding the creation of angels,
    And of the four beast, and all the mansions.

    I WILL GIVE YOU A CLUE ;THE MANSIONS JESUS TOLD HIS DISCIPLES ;

    JN 14:2 “In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.

    Jn 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

    let see what you got ???


    T.

    You first.

    wakeup.


    w

    you are the second and now you want me to be the ones answering all your own questions

    do you have any understanding at all ???


    T.

    You first.

    wakeup.

    December 29, 2013 at 5:14 pm#364926
    terraricca
    Participant

    W

    Quote
    T.

    You first.

    wakeup.

    YOU WILL NEVER KNOW ,BECAUSE YOU ARE A CHEAT ,

    December 29, 2013 at 9:28 pm#364937
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,03:14)
    W

    Quote
    T.

    You first.

    wakeup.

    YOU WILL NEVER KNOW ,BECAUSE YOU ARE A CHEAT ,


    T.

    Have I cheated you?
    Therefore you can be cheated.
    Many have;but you dont know.
    You just follow the flock.

    wakeup.

    December 29, 2013 at 11:37 pm#364942
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,02:28)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,03:14)
    W

    Quote
    T.

    You first.

    wakeup.

    YOU WILL NEVER KNOW ,BECAUSE YOU ARE A CHEAT ,


    T.

    Have I cheated you?
    Therefore you can be cheated.
    Many have;but you dont know.
    You just follow the flock.

    wakeup.


    joker you are :D

    December 30, 2013 at 2:14 am#364959
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,09:37)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,02:28)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,03:14)
    W

    Quote
    T.

    You first.

    wakeup.

    YOU WILL NEVER KNOW ,BECAUSE YOU ARE A CHEAT ,


    T.

    Have I cheated you?
    Therefore you can be cheated.
    Many have;but you dont know.
    You just follow the flock.

    wakeup.


    joker you are  :D


    T.

    Just go with the flow,that way you will be liked.

    wakeup.

    December 30, 2013 at 2:49 am#364973
    terraricca
    Participant

    YEAH :D :laugh:

    December 30, 2013 at 3:51 am#364978
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:49)
    YEAH :D :laugh:


    T.

    A new song for you.
    A new year present.

    Where the wind blows there Terra goes.
    Everyone knows how to step on his toes.
    Punching away with his right hand.
    But can not understand.
    What will be at the end.

    This will be top chart.
    Have a wise new year.

    wakeup.

    December 30, 2013 at 5:00 am#364992
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:51)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:49)
    YEAH :D :laugh:


    T.

    A new song for you.
    A new year present.

    Where the wind blows there Terra goes.
    Everyone knows how to step on his toes.
    Punching away with his right hand.
    But can not understand.
    What will be at the end.

    This will be top chart.
    Have a wise new year.

    wakeup.


    w

    your song start with KJV and end up with ignorance ,

    and to me every day is a new years day :D :laugh:

    December 30, 2013 at 10:13 am#365002
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,15:00)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:51)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:49)
    YEAH :D :laugh:


    T.

    A new song for you.
    A new year present.

    Where the wind blows there Terra goes.
    Everyone knows how to step on his toes.
    Punching away with his right hand.
    But can not understand.
    What will be at the end.

    This will be top chart.
    Have a wise new year.

    wakeup.


    w

    your song start with KJV and end up with ignorance ,

    and to me every day is a new years day   :D  :laugh:


    Ok Terra you have a nice day.

    wakeup.

    December 30, 2013 at 9:12 pm#365029
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,15:13)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,15:00)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:51)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:49)
    YEAH :D :laugh:


    T.

    A new song for you.
    A new year present.

    Where the wind blows there Terra goes.
    Everyone knows how to step on his toes.
    Punching away with his right hand.
    But can not understand.
    What will be at the end.

    This will be top chart.
    Have a wise new year.

    wakeup.


    w

    your song start with KJV and end up with ignorance ,

    and to me every day is a new years day   :D  :laugh:


    Ok Terra you have a nice day.

    wakeup.


    :cool:

    December 31, 2013 at 3:20 pm#365061
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 31 2013,07:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,15:13)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,15:00)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:51)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:49)
    YEAH :D :laugh:


    T.

    A new song for you.
    A new year present.

    Where the wind blows there Terra goes.
    Everyone knows how to step on his toes.
    Punching away with his right hand.
    But can not understand.
    What will be at the end.

    This will be top chart.
    Have a wise new year.

    wakeup.


    w

    your song start with KJV and end up with ignorance ,

    and to me every day is a new years day   :D  :laugh:


    Ok Terra you have a nice day.

    wakeup.


    :cool:


    T.

    Not even a thank you?

    wakeup.

    January 1, 2014 at 2:42 am#365116
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 31 2013,20:20)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 31 2013,07:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,15:13)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,15:00)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:51)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:49)
    YEAH :D :laugh:


    T.

    A new song for you.
    A new year present.

    Where the wind blows there Terra goes.
    Everyone knows how to step on his toes.
    Punching away with his right hand.
    But can not understand.
    What will be at the end.

    This will be top chart.
    Have a wise new year.

    wakeup.


    w

    your song start with KJV and end up with ignorance ,

    and to me every day is a new years day   :D  :laugh:


    Ok Terra you have a nice day.

    wakeup.


    :cool:


    T.

    Not even a thank you?

    wakeup.


    W

    IF I HAVE A NICE DAY WOULD IT BE BECAUSE OF YOU ???

    January 1, 2014 at 3:48 am#365127
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,12:42)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 31 2013,20:20)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 31 2013,07:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,15:13)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,15:00)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 30 2013,08:51)

    Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 30 2013,12:49)
    YEAH :D :laugh:


    T.

    A new song for you.
    A new year present.

    Where the wind blows there Terra goes.
    Everyone knows how to step on his toes.
    Punching away with his right hand.
    But can not understand.
    What will be at the end.

    This will be top chart.
    Have a wise new year.

    wakeup.


    w

    your song start with KJV and end up with ignorance ,

    and to me every day is a new years day   :D  :laugh:


    Ok Terra you have a nice day.

    wakeup.


    :cool:


    T.

    Not even a thank you?

    wakeup.


    W

    IF I HAVE A NICE DAY WOULD IT BE BECAUSE OF YOU ???


    T.

    You make your day good or grumpy.
    I am just wishing you a nice day.

    wakeup.

    January 1, 2014 at 4:27 am#365130
    terraricca
    Participant

    w

    then be nicer to me al of the times not only for one day

    January 1, 2014 at 9:38 am#365140
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,14:27)
    w

    then be nicer to me al of the times not only for one day


    T.
    It takes two to tango.
    I am hard with speaking scriptures only.
    Sometimes shock therapy will work better.
    For all come with soothing words,only to deceive.

    wakeup.

    January 2, 2014 at 1:54 am#365165
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,14:38)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,14:27)
    w

    then be nicer to me al of the times not only for one day


    T.
    It takes two to tango.
    I am hard with speaking scriptures only.
    Sometimes shock therapy will work better.
    For all come with soothing words,only to deceive.

    wakeup.


    W

    YOU CAN DO ALL THOSE THINGS VERY WELL ,

    BUT YOU DO THE SAME THING WHEN YOU ARE PROVEN WRONG FROM SCRIPTURES ,OR OTHERWISE ,

    January 2, 2014 at 7:44 am#365183
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 02 2014,11:54)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 01 2014,14:38)

    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2014,14:27)
    w

    then be nicer to me al of the times not only for one day


    T.
    It takes two to tango.
    I am hard with speaking scriptures only.
    Sometimes shock therapy will work better.
    For all come with soothing words,only to deceive.

    wakeup.


    W

    YOU CAN DO ALL THOSE THINGS VERY WELL ,

    BUT YOU DO THE SAME THING WHEN YOU ARE PROVEN WRONG FROM SCRIPTURES ,OR OTHERWISE ,


    T.

    This is the piont; I am wrong from your doctrines
    perspective. Not from the scriptures.
    Because you have not shown scriptures that can contradict what I teach.

    wakeup.

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