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ParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2014,06:11) w Quote The last Adam was born again into spirit. show the scripture where it is written that Christ is “BORN AGAIN” it is not written in 1 Cor;15;45
T.Scripture does not specifically explain in detail re born again ,that would make it too easy.We need to seek.
Just as Jesus never explains that he is the Word of GOD,but by reading the scriptures we can understand,
that He is the Word of God.You can not expect all answers put on a plate.
wakeup.
January 14, 2014 at 10:39 pm#367262terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,02:03) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2014,06:11) w Quote The last Adam was born again into spirit. show the scripture where it is written that Christ is “BORN AGAIN” it is not written in 1 Cor;15;45
T.Scripture does not specifically explain in detail re born again ,that would make it too easy.We need to seek.
Just as Jesus never explains that he is the Word of GOD,but by reading the scriptures we can understand,
that He is the Word of God.You can not expect all answers put on a plate.
wakeup.
WQuote You can not expect all answers put on a plate. RIGHT YOU ARE ;BUT IT AS TO BE THE SCRIPTURES THAT TELL YOU WHO AND WHAT IS ALL OF IT ,
NOT A MAN FULL OF SINS ,AND CORRUPT
BUT GOD TELLS YOU TO PUT HIS WORDS IN YOUR HEART AND HE WILL COME TO YOU SO IS HIS SON ;FAILING TO DO THAT YOU END UP HAVING NOTHING
January 15, 2014 at 12:02 am#367270Wakeup
ParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2014,08:39) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,02:03) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2014,06:11) w Quote The last Adam was born again into spirit. show the scripture where it is written that Christ is “BORN AGAIN” it is not written in 1 Cor;15;45
T.Scripture does not specifically explain in detail re born again ,that would make it too easy.We need to seek.
Just as Jesus never explains that he is the Word of GOD,but by reading the scriptures we can understand,
that He is the Word of God.You can not expect all answers put on a plate.
wakeup.
WQuote You can not expect all answers put on a plate. RIGHT YOU ARE ;BUT IT AS TO BE THE SCRIPTURES THAT TELL YOU WHO AND WHAT IS ALL OF IT ,
NOT A MAN FULL OF SINS ,AND CORRUPT
BUT GOD TELLS YOU TO PUT HIS WORDS IN YOUR HEART AND HE WILL COME TO YOU SO IS HIS SON ;FAILING TO DO THAT YOU END UP HAVING NOTHING
T.So explain born again to us.
wakeup.
January 15, 2014 at 1:32 am#367284terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,05:02) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2014,08:39) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,02:03) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2014,06:11) w Quote The last Adam was born again into spirit. show the scripture where it is written that Christ is “BORN AGAIN” it is not written in 1 Cor;15;45
T.Scripture does not specifically explain in detail re born again ,that would make it too easy.We need to seek.
Just as Jesus never explains that he is the Word of GOD,but by reading the scriptures we can understand,
that He is the Word of God.You can not expect all answers put on a plate.
wakeup.
WQuote You can not expect all answers put on a plate. RIGHT YOU ARE ;BUT IT AS TO BE THE SCRIPTURES THAT TELL YOU WHO AND WHAT IS ALL OF IT ,
NOT A MAN FULL OF SINS ,AND CORRUPT
BUT GOD TELLS YOU TO PUT HIS WORDS IN YOUR HEART AND HE WILL COME TO YOU SO IS HIS SON ;FAILING TO DO THAT YOU END UP HAVING NOTHING
T.So explain born again to us.
wakeup.
WBUT I HAVE EXPLAIN IT TO YOU ;BUT YOU DID NOT BELIEVE THE SCRIPTURES
January 15, 2014 at 4:24 am#367312Wakeup
ParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2014,11:32) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,05:02) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2014,08:39) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,02:03) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2014,06:11) w Quote The last Adam was born again into spirit. show the scripture where it is written that Christ is “BORN AGAIN” it is not written in 1 Cor;15;45
T.Scripture does not specifically explain in detail re born again ,that would make it too easy.We need to seek.
Just as Jesus never explains that he is the Word of GOD,but by reading the scriptures we can understand,
that He is the Word of God.You can not expect all answers put on a plate.
wakeup.
WQuote You can not expect all answers put on a plate. RIGHT YOU ARE ;BUT IT AS TO BE THE SCRIPTURES THAT TELL YOU WHO AND WHAT IS ALL OF IT ,
NOT A MAN FULL OF SINS ,AND CORRUPT
BUT GOD TELLS YOU TO PUT HIS WORDS IN YOUR HEART AND HE WILL COME TO YOU SO IS HIS SON ;FAILING TO DO THAT YOU END UP HAVING NOTHING
T.So explain born again to us.
wakeup.
WBUT I HAVE EXPLAIN IT TO YOU ;BUT YOU DID NOT BELIEVE THE SCRIPTURES
T.
Aways the same answer.
Well;explain it again like I have done many times with Mike,
regarding the Word.wakeup.
January 15, 2014 at 4:53 am#367320journey42
Participantterraricca,Jan. wrote:j42
Quote So before the heavens and the earth were created?,
and before man was created?
Is that what you are saying?
He was “BORN” when he was “created” before all things.Quote j42 yes, that is what scriptures tell me ;also proverb 8;22-31
Pierre, this is why every bit of evidence you give against me must be double checked all the time.Proverbs 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THE LORD MADE ME, OR CREATED ME, IN THE BEGINNING, JUST THAT IT WAS THERE IN GODS POSSESSION. IT'S TALKING ABOUT WISDOM ANYWAY. NOT THE WORD, OR JESUS CHRIST, BUT WISDOM. READ THE WHOLE CHAPTER BEFORE I GO FURTHER.English Standard Version
“The LORD possessed me at the beginning of his work, the first of his acts of old.Quote so that is my answer and understand that ;BORN/BRING FORTH/CREATED/CONCEIVED, ARE ALE THE SAME THING
Wrong answer due to misunderstanding what the chapter is talking about.January 15, 2014 at 5:03 am#367322journey42
ParticipantPROVERBS CHAPTER 8
THIS IS SPEAKING OF WISDOM1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?
2 She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
3 She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.
4 Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.
5 O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.
6 Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things.
7 For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.
8 All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
9 They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.
10 Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.
11 For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.
12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.
19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.
20 I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment:
21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.
22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
32 Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.
33 Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.
34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.
January 15, 2014 at 5:20 am#367323terraricca
ParticipantQuote (journey42 @ Jan. 15 2014,09:53) terraricca,Jan. wrote:j42
Quote So before the heavens and the earth were created?,
and before man was created?
Is that what you are saying?
He was “BORN” when he was “created” before all things.Quote j42 yes, that is what scriptures tell me ;also proverb 8;22-31
Pierre, this is why every bit of evidence you give against me must be double checked all the time.Proverbs 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THE LORD MADE ME, OR CREATED ME, IN THE BEGINNING, JUST THAT IT WAS THERE IN GODS POSSESSION. IT'S TALKING ABOUT WISDOM ANYWAY. NOT THE WORD, OR JESUS CHRIST, BUT WISDOM. READ THE WHOLE CHAPTER BEFORE I GO FURTHER.English Standard Version
“The LORD possessed me at the beginning of his work, the first of his acts of old.Quote so that is my answer and understand that ;BORN/BRING FORTH/CREATED/CONCEIVED, ARE ALE THE SAME THING
Wrong answer due to misunderstanding what the chapter is talking about.
j42Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,
before his deeds of old;
Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity,
from the beginning, before the world began.The LORD created me at the beginning of his work,
the first of his acts of long ago.
Pr 8:23 Ages ago I was set up,
at the first, before the beginning of the earth. nrkjvProverbs 8:22 Click this icon to open a printer friendly page
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The Lord created 1 me as the beginning 2 of his works, 3 before his deeds of long ago.
NIV ©
“The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old;
NASB ©
“The LORD possessed me at the beginning of His way, Before His works of old.
NLT ©
“The LORD formed me from the beginning, before he created anything else.
MSG ©
“GOD sovereignly made me–the first, the basic–before he did anything else.
BBE ©
The Lord made me as the start of his way, the first of his works in the past.
NRSV ©
The LORD created me at the beginning of his work, the first of his acts of long ago.
NKJV ©
“The LORD possessed me at the beginning of His way, Before His works of old.NET ©
The Lord created 1 me as the beginning 2 of his works, 3 before his deeds of long ago.
NET © Notes
1 tn There are two roots קָנָה (qanah) in Hebrew, one meaning “to possess,” and the other meaning “to create.” The earlier English versions did not know of the second root, but suspected in certain places that a meaning like that was necessary (e.g., Gen 4:1; 14:19; Deut 32:6). Ugaritic confirmed that it was indeed another root. The older versions have the translation “possess” because otherwise it sounds like God lacked wisdom and therefore created it at the beginning. They wanted to avoid saying that wisdom was not eternal. Arius liked the idea of Christ as the wisdom of God and so chose the translation “create.” Athanasius translated it, “constituted me as the head of creation.” The verb occurs twelve times in Proverbs with the meaning of “to acquire”; but the Greek and the Syriac versions have the meaning “create.” Although the idea is that wisdom existed before creation, the parallel ideas in these verses (“appointed,” “given birth”) argue for the translation of “create” or “establish” (R. N. Whybray, “Proverbs 8:22-31 and Its Supposed Prototypes,” VT 15 [1965]: 504-14; and W. A. Irwin, “Where Will Wisdom Be Found?” JBL 80 [1961]: 133-42).
2 tn Verbs of creation often involve double accusatives; here the double accusative involves the person (i.e., wisdom) and an abstract noun in construct (IBHS 174-75 §10.2.3c).
3 tn Heb “his way” (so KJV, NASB). The word “way” is an idiom (implied comparison) for the actions of God.sn The claim of wisdom in this passage is that she was foundational to all that God would do.
PR 8:25 “ Before the mountains were settled,
Before the hills I was brought forth;When He marked out the foundations of the earth;
PR 8:30 Then I was beside Him, as a master workman;
And I was daily His delight,
Rejoicing always before Him,PR 8:31 Rejoicing in the world, His earth,
And having my delight in the sons of men.would this be from Adam till now or from his coming in the flesh
January 15, 2014 at 5:24 am#367325terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,09:24) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2014,11:32) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,05:02) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2014,08:39) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 15 2014,02:03) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2014,06:11) w Quote The last Adam was born again into spirit. show the scripture where it is written that Christ is “BORN AGAIN” it is not written in 1 Cor;15;45
T.Scripture does not specifically explain in detail re born again ,that would make it too easy.We need to seek.
Just as Jesus never explains that he is the Word of GOD,but by reading the scriptures we can understand,
that He is the Word of God.You can not expect all answers put on a plate.
wakeup.
WQuote You can not expect all answers put on a plate. RIGHT YOU ARE ;BUT IT AS TO BE THE SCRIPTURES THAT TELL YOU WHO AND WHAT IS ALL OF IT ,
NOT A MAN FULL OF SINS ,AND CORRUPT
BUT GOD TELLS YOU TO PUT HIS WORDS IN YOUR HEART AND HE WILL COME TO YOU SO IS HIS SON ;FAILING TO DO THAT YOU END UP HAVING NOTHING
T.So explain born again to us.
wakeup.
WBUT I HAVE EXPLAIN IT TO YOU ;BUT YOU DID NOT BELIEVE THE SCRIPTURES
T.
Aways the same answer.
Well;explain it again like I have done many times with Mike,
regarding the Word.wakeup.
wgo to the new topic i did about the great tribulation and i say it there what it is read my few first comments
January 15, 2014 at 5:35 am#367330journey42
Participantterraricca,Jan. wrote:[/quote]
Quote PR 8:25 “ Before the mountains were settled,
Before the hills I was brought forth;When He marked out the foundations of the earth;
PR 8:30 Then I was beside Him, as a master workman;
And I was daily His delight,
Rejoicing always before Him,PR 8:31 Rejoicing in the world, His earth,
And having my delight in the sons of men.would this be from Adam till now or from his coming in the flesh
Pierre,
It is neither. The answer is in the scriptures.22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, …….before his works of old.
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains were settled,before the hills was I brought forth:
26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world
From before everything. Wisdom was always with God. There was never a time wisdom wasn't with him. That's how great he is Pierre.
January 15, 2014 at 5:45 am#367333terraricca
ParticipantQuote (journey42 @ Jan. 15 2014,10:35) terraricca,Jan. wrote:[/quote]
Quote PR 8:25 “ Before the mountains were settled,
Before the hills I was brought forth;When He marked out the foundations of the earth;
PR 8:30 Then I was beside Him, as a master workman;
And I was daily His delight,
Rejoicing always before Him,PR 8:31 Rejoicing in the world, His earth,
And having my delight in the sons of men.would this be from Adam till now or from his coming in the flesh
Pierre,
It is neither. The answer is in the scriptures.22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, …….before his works of old.
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains were settled,before the hills was I brought forth:
26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world
From before everything. Wisdom was always with God. There was never a time wisdom wasn't with him. That's how great he is Pierre.
j42then have sweet dreams ,
January 15, 2014 at 6:37 am#367336journey42
Participantterraricca,Jan. wrote:[/quote]
Quote From before everything. Wisdom was always with God. There was never a time wisdom wasn't with him. That's how great he is Pierre. Quote j42 then have sweet dreams ,
My dream is to be a faithful witness,
to be accepted into the kingdom at the resurrection,
to meet my Lord in the air,
to take a deep breath of relief,
and to have all my sins forgiven,My dream is to witness the amazing events to come,
to play a part in the millennium,
to be spirit,
surrounded by my Lord and faithful brothers and sisters,
and to be loved back by them,My dream is to see mercy given the Jews who will be brought back in the flesh,
to help wipe their tears,
to help comfort their broken hearts,
to witness their joy,
to see their eyes opened.My dream is to see the truth come out of Jerusalem,
for the saving of the gentiles,
to see the world marvel,
to witness their healing,My dream is to be free from sin, completely,
to be a loyal and true servant,
to be perfected,
to serve my God undefiled,My dream is that I never miss out on any of the above,
my dream is for truth openly declared,
my dream is to love
and I dream for mercy on my pitiful soul,
when all is said and doneMy dream, is to never loose sight of this dream
January 15, 2014 at 6:42 am#367337Wakeup
ParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2014,15:45) Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 15 2014,10:35) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 15 2014,15:20) Quote PR 8:25 “ Before the mountains were settled,
Before the hills I was brought forth;When He marked out the foundations of the earth;
PR 8:30 Then I was beside Him, as a master workman;
And I was daily His delight,
Rejoicing always before Him,PR 8:31 Rejoicing in the world, His earth,
And having my delight in the sons of men.would this be from Adam till now or from his coming in the flesh
Pierre,
It is neither. The answer is in the scriptures.22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, …….before his works of old.
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains were settled,before the hills was I brought forth:
26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world
From before everything. Wisdom was always with God. There was never a time wisdom wasn't with him. That's how great he is Pierre.
j42then have sweet dreams ,
T.Very inteligent Terra.
Anything will do.Dont cast your pearls to the swine.
wakeup.
January 15, 2014 at 5:12 pm#367358journey42
ParticipantQuote (journey42 @ Jan. 15 2014,15:03) PROVERBS CHAPTER 8
THIS IS SPEAKING OF WISDOM1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice?
2 She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths.
3 She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors.
4 Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.
5 O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.
6 Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things.
7 For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.
8 All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
9 They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge.
10 Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold.
11 For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.
12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.
14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness.
19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.
20 I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment:
21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures.
22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old.
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.
24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.
25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:
28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men.
32 Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.
33 Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.
34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.
PierreCan you see now how this is about wisdom?
January 15, 2014 at 7:46 pm#367360terraricca
ParticipantJ42
NO ,I CANNOT SEE IT BUT I NOW CAN SEE WHY YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURES AND THE PROPHECIES , AND THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW MEN TO FEEL SAVE ,
January 15, 2014 at 10:27 pm#367371Wakeup
ParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2014,05:46) J42 NO ,I CANNOT SEE IT BUT I NOW CAN SEE WHY YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURES AND THE PROPHECIES , AND THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW MEN TO FEEL SAVE ,
T.So how would *YOU* interpret those scriptures?
Instead of bla ,bla.
Where is YOUR input?wakeup
January 16, 2014 at 1:58 am#367392terraricca
ParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2014,03:27) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2014,05:46) J42 NO ,I CANNOT SEE IT BUT I NOW CAN SEE WHY YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURES AND THE PROPHECIES , AND THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW MEN TO FEEL SAVE ,
T.So how would *YOU* interpret those scriptures?
Instead of bla ,bla.
Where is YOUR input?wakeup
LOOK IT UP IT IS IN THIS TOPICJanuary 16, 2014 at 6:57 am#367411Wakeup
ParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2014,11:58) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2014,03:27) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2014,05:46) J42 NO ,I CANNOT SEE IT BUT I NOW CAN SEE WHY YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURES AND THE PROPHECIES , AND THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW MEN TO FEEL SAVE ,
T.So how would *YOU* interpret those scriptures?
Instead of bla ,bla.
Where is YOUR input?wakeup
LOOK IT UP IT IS IN THIS TOPIC
T.God possesses:
1. His Word;creator of all things,by wisdom.
2. Wisdom in his Word.By His Word were all things framed.
This is where we get wisdom; of Him.
3.The Holy spirit in his Word; This is how we can understand
spiritual things.He is our teacher.
4. All those are in God.We speak of God: We speak of all of those above.
God is one with all of those above.They can not be seperated.wakeup.
January 16, 2014 at 2:03 pm#367423journey42
ParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2014,05:46) J42 NO ,I CANNOT SEE IT BUT I NOW CAN SEE WHY YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURES AND THE PROPHECIES , AND THAT YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW MEN TO FEEL SAVE ,
PierreDo you need help?
January 16, 2014 at 4:47 pm#367431journey42
ParticipantOK, LETS GO OVER IT THEN. THERES A RYTHM TO GOD'S WORDS. IT'S BEAUTIFUL, LIKE POETRY.
PROVERBS CHAPTER 8
1 Doth not wisdom cry? and understanding put forth her voice? SPEAKING OF WISDOM, THIS IS HOW THE CHAPTER STARTS
2 She standeth in the top of high places, by the way in the places of the paths. ….SHE…IS THE ONE CRYING… WISDOM,
3 She crieth at the gates, at the entry of the city, at the coming in at the doors. WISDOM STANDS AT THE DOOR OF ZION.
Proverbs 24:3 Through wisdom is an house builded; and by understanding it is established:4 Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man. WISDOM IS CALLING OUT TO MAN ….DESIRE ME.
5 O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.
PSALMS 19:7 THE LAW OF THE LORD IS PERFECT, CONVERTING THE SOUL: THE TESTIMONY OF THE LORD IS SURE, MAKING WISE THE SIMPLE6 Hear; for I will speak of excellent things; and the opening of my lips shall be right things. WISDOM DOES NOT SPEAK FOOLISHLY
7 For my mouth shall speak truth; and wickedness is an abomination to my lips.
Psalms 49:3 My mouth shall speak of wisdom; and the meditation of my heart shall be of understanding.8 All the words of my mouth are in righteousness; there is nothing froward or perverse in them.
Psalms 37:30
The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.[/B]9 They are all plain to him that understandeth, and right to them that find knowledge. WISDOM IS EASY, SIMPLE, NOT COMPLICATED AND CONFUSING.
10 Receive my instruction, and not silver; and knowledge rather than choice gold. WISDOM WILL INSTRUCT/GUIDE AND KNOWLEDGE IS THE FRUIT OF IT.
11 For wisdom is better than rubies; and all the things that may be desired are not to be compared to it.
Ecclesiastes 7:12 For wisdom is a defence, and money is a defence: but the excellency of knowledge is, that wisdom giveth life to them that have it.12 I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions. COMMON SENSE, GOOD JUDGMENT IS HAVING WISDOM.
13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate. IF YOU HAVE WISDOM YOU WILL HATE THE THINGS GOD HATES. SIMPLE AS THAT.
14 Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
Proverbs 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice. GOD'S WISDOM HAS ALREADY PLANNED FROM THE BEGINNING THAT THERE WILL BE KINGS EXISTING IN THE GRAND PLAN, …TO PAVE THE WAY FOR THE KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS, ..TO EXCEL THEM ALL.
16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
Psalms 105:22 To bind his princes at his pleasure; and teach his senators wisdom.17 I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
Psalms 51:6 Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom.18 Riches and honour are with me; yea, durable riches and righteousness. WISDOM
19 My fruit is better than gold, yea, than fine gold; and my revenue than choice silver.
Proverbs 16:16 How much better is it to get wisdom than gold! and to get understanding rather to be chosen than silver!20 I lead in the way of righteousness, in the midst of the paths of judgment: AGAIN, WISDOM LEADS THE WAY
21 That I may cause those that love me to inherit substance; and I will fill their treasures. LOVE WISDOM AND INCREASE YOUR TREASURES IN HEAVEN.
22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. WISDOM
23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.WISDOM
24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water. WISDOM WAS ALWAYS WITH GOD
25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:
WISDOM26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world. WISDOM
27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth: WISDOM
Psalms 136:5 To him that by wisdom made the heavens: for his mercy endureth for ever.28 When he established the clouds above: when he strengthened the fountains of the deep:
Job 38:37 Who can number the clouds in wisdom? or who can stay the bottles of heaven.29 When he gave to the sea his decree, that the waters should not pass his commandment: when he appointed the foundations of the earth:
Jeremiah 51:15 He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heaven by his understanding.30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;
Jeremiah 10:12 He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.31 Rejoicing in the habitable part of his earth; and my delights were with the sons of men. WISDOM
2 Chronicles 9:7 Happy are thy men, and happy are these thy servants, which stand continually before thee, and hear thy wisdom.32 Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways. WISDOM
Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.33 Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not. WISDOM
Jeremiah 8:9 The wise men are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: lo, they have rejected the word of the LORD; and what wisdom is in them34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors. WISDOM
Psalms 111:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever.35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD. WISDOM
Ephesians 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death. WISDOM
Ecclesiastes 9:10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest. - AuthorPosts
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