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I once had these phrases explained to me by an elder in a church I used to go to. It certainly opened my eyes in understanding certain scripture. I would like to share this with those that are interested.
Estrangement: Alienated from one another. I'll use A & B.
Conciliate or conciliated: When one conciliates with the other in an estrangement, A with B. But not B with A. …a one sided union.
Reconciliate or reconciliated: When both sides conciliate to each other in an estrangement, A with B. And B with A. …a two sided union.
Scriptural examples of each:
Conciliate: (God with mankind, but not mankind with God)
Ro.5:10-11 …10 For if, being enemies, we were conciliated to God through the death of His Son, much rather, being conciliated, we shall be saved in His life.
11 Yet not only so, but we are glorying also in God, through our Lord, Jesus Christ, through Whom we now obtained the conciliation.Ro.11:15 …15 For if their casting away is the conciliation of the world, what will the taking back be if not life from among the dead?
1Cor.7:11 …10 Now to the married I am charging, not I, but the Lord: A wife is not to be separated from her husband.
11 Yet if she should be separated also, let her remain unmarried or be conciliated to her husband. And a husband is not to leave his wife.2Cor.5:18-21 …18 Yet all is of God, Who conciliates us to Himself through Christ, and is giving us the dispensation of the conciliation,
19 how that God was in Christ, conciliating the world to Himself, not reckoning their offenses to them, and placing in us the word of the conciliation.
20 For Christ, then, are we ambassadors, as of God entreating through us. We are beseeching for Christ's sake, “Be conciliated to God!”
21 For the One not knowing sin, He makes to be a sin offering for our sakes that we may be becoming God's righteousness in Him.Reconciliate: (God with mankind, and mankind to God)
Eph.2:13-18 …13 Yet now, in Christ Jesus, you, who once are far off, are become near by the blood of Christ.
14 For He is our Peace, Who makes both one, and razes the central wall of the barrier
15 (the enmity in His flesh), nullifying the law of precepts in decrees, that He should be creating the two, in Himself, into one new humanity, making peace;
16 and should be reconciling both in one body to God through the cross, killing the enmity in it.
17 And, coming, He brings the evangel of peace to you, those afar, and peace to those near,
18 for through Him we both have had the access, in one spirit, to the Father.Col.1:19-20 …19 for in Him the entire complement delights to dwell,
20 and through Him to reconcile all to Him (making peace through the blood of His cross), through Him, whether those on the earth or those in the heavens.I hope this explanation will benifit you as much as it has benifited me, in understanding what God is doing with His creation.
“Yet all is of God…2Cor.5:18.Blessings.
I neglected to add, that in this present era, God has conciliated Himself to all mankind. In the future, He will reconciliate all mankind to Himself. IMO.
Blessings.
CO,
Context.The verses from Paul you show are for those who have been saved in Jesus Christ.
They are no longer estranged but one with God in Christ and sharing God's Spirit Life.
The heathen rebel is still in his sins and still totally estranged from the God of Love.Chosenone………Good Post. God does both conciliate and reconciliate Man Kind , through His Creative powers. He is the savior of (ALL) Mankind.
love and peace to you and yours……………..gene
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 26 2008,15:07) CO, No universal salvation magically given.
Nick………Who said Salvation was Magic, You should stop putting words in peoples mouths, this misrepresenting of what someone is saying will only bring Judgment on your self brother. Chosenone said nothing about Magic. Please try to be more considerate of others.said in love Nick……………gene
GB,
Salvation is not by Magic.
God requires a response in faith from men.
When they reach their goal they will know it was all by grace.
We walk by faith
We work out our salvation in fear and trembling.Nick, a scripture for you to take note of:
31 Let all bitterness and fury and anger and clamor and calumny be taken away from you with all malice,
32 yet become kind to one another, tenderly compassionate, dealing graciously among yourselves, according as God also, in Christ, deals graciously with you.Blessings.
CO,
Indeed those reborn into the body of Christ should treat one another with love.
They should honour the Word of God and oppose false teachings.CO,
There is no unity between Christ and belial.
Christ Jesus is not made one with all sinful mankind.
Not those who are bound to false doctrine and strangers voices
Those who are made clean in the sight of God are joined by God with him.Hi,
Ephesians 2:13
But now in Christ Jesus you who formerly were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.Why would anyone not come to Jesus to be saved by his blood?
It is not magic.Co,
Indeed we were.
Those who come to Christ enjoy the benefits of a new relationship with God.
But the poor heathen have yet to come to Christ though the door of salvation remains ajar.Nick…….So what are you saying we and others are of belial and you are of GOD. Who are you to say anyone is of God or not and who are ( bound )with false doctrine, have you become a Judge of GOD”S heritage. I think it would be more appropriate for you to get the beam out of your own eye before trying to remove the speck out of your brothers eye, don't you. You shouldn't position yourself so high up in the tree you just have further to fall.
said in love…………….gene
Gb,
Please do not take personally a comment that those of the world's god[belial] are not of Christ.I make no such statement about you.
Your Master would prefer you not go beyond his words.
[2jn]He never said all men will be saved but some how your teach this.
Why?
To teach all are saved without repentance and coming to Christ is to join Christ with sin.
That is not the plan of God which is to cleanse all creation in and through Christ.
Nick…..Did He not say (ALL manor ) of sin (SHALL) be forgiven Man? And tell me where He said All men will (NOT) be saved ultimately then. Many scriptures show GOD will save all Men (ultimately), (YET THOUGH FIERY JUDGMENTS), And where did you get the Idea I said they would not have to repent at, I never said or implied that Nick, we all know we must be given repentance from GOD in order to change, I have merely said Man does not repent on His (OWN) without the influencing of GOD in His Heart, that's what (GRACE) is. Myself or Chosenone (never implied) repentance is not required, all sin must be repented of by (ALL), and that includes those of the House hold of GOD . No ones preaching we are saved without repentance brother that would be impossible, for all have sinned and come short of the Glory of GOD.
peace and love to you and yours……………….gene
GB,
Exactly -every kind of sin will be forgiven with one exception-speaking against the Spirit of God.
But that does not mean forgiveness is magically applied to every man who has sinned.
It just means as it says that every other kind of sin will be forgiven men.Certainly the saved will suffer many trials as they work out their salvation in fear and trembling.
So where is the scriptural evidence that all men will come to repentance that they be forgiven?Bending the knee to the appointed Lord of all is not repentance but just acceptance of authority.
Nick………….Where is the Scriptural Proof they will not repent, then since you propose all will not be saved, show you scriptural proof of that then.
peace…………….gene
GB,
There is none.But unless you can show that there is proof that all will, you are speculating.
Better to show what is written and leave it at that and not to speculate in any way whatever.
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