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Just before I ask this question I would like to say that having scoured through this forum I am amassed at the answers to a lot of question and debates.
If I used the logic that some use, I could remind people that Judas sinned when he sold Jesus out and he went out and hanged himself, then go to the scripture where Jesus said “go and do ye likewise”.That would eliminate all of us. If you think that is stupidity gone to seed you would be right.
So lets think about this scripture before you answer.
Eph_4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism
Hi Rich,
Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old?
can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Jesus told Nicodemus you cannot be born of water a second time!“Physical Birth” → “Spiritual Re-birth”
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he
cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgI am surprised to find no one is willing to talk abut this scripture.
One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism.
Are they connected?
This will identify who and what you believe about Jesus.
And usually identify your denomination.Quote (Richtuner @ Nov. 19 2012,06:09) I am surprised to find no one is willing to talk abut this scripture.
One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism.
Are they connected?
This will identify who and what you believe about Jesus.
And usually identify your denomination.
Richtuner.If you realy study john 3:1–8. you will find that the whole conversation was NOT about baptism;but about being born again. agree?
Jesus said ; if you are born of water(child birth),you are flesh.
If you are born out of the spirit(resurrection) you are spirit.Zion will give birth to all he children,(spirit children).
Jeremiah 66:8. Micah 4:10.wakeup.
Quote (Richtuner @ Nov. 19 2012,07:57) Wakeup, this is not about John 3:1-8, this is about Eph_4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism.
Richtuner.Water baptism was done by John the babtist,it a symbol of the real babtism.
Jesus babtised with the real babtism and that is the Holy spirit.Jesus was babtised by John with water,but at the same time his father babtised him with the Holy spirit.
THe thief on his right was never babtised with water.Ephesians.4:5.One lord (Jesus), one faith(in the gospels),one baptism(filled by the Holy spirit).
And the Father in all.wakeup.
Wakeup,
Quote Ephesians.4:5.One lord (Jesus), one faith(in the gospels),one baptism(filled by the Holy spirit). Any one else that's different than this?
Rich tuner, why don't you tell is what you believe about this, and then everyone can take turns disagreeing with you and each other.
I believe that Paul was expounding on how we should not focus on our differences but remember that there is only one absolute truth. (including a laundry list of included truths) And while we all believe we have “the whole truth”, our differing gifts may give us a different perspective on these truths so I believe we were further encouraged to not participate in diversion but seek unity and peace.
My opinion – Wm
My desire is to know what others believe about this scripture
One Lord? Who?
One Faith? Whose?
One Baptism? Only one. The bible in Heb. states that there is a “doctrine of baptisms”, so which one?Quote (Richtuner @ Nov. 19 2012,21:24) My desire is to know what others believe about this scripture
One Lord? Who?
One Faith? Whose?
One Baptism? Only one. The bible in Heb. states that there is a “doctrine of baptisms”, so which one?
do you know the answers to your own questions
if yes then answer them ,if not then let see if anyone can hereQuote (Wakeup @ Nov. 19 2012,11:24) Quote (Richtuner @ Nov. 19 2012,07:57) Wakeup, this is not about John 3:1-8, this is about Eph_4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism.
Richtuner.Ephesians.4:5.One lord (Jesus), one faith(in the gospels),one baptism(filled by the Holy spirit).
And the Father in all.wakeup.
Hi Rich,I agree with Wakeup here, in this he is right.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgrichrunner
Eph 5:1 Be imitators of God, therefore, as dearly loved children
Eph 5:2 and live a life of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.
Eph 5:3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God’s holy people.
Eph 5:4 Nor should there be obscenity, foolish talk or coarse joking, which are out of place, but rather thanksgiving.
Eph 5:5 For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person—such a man is an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Eph 5:6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient.so you mean;;
Eph 4:3 Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace.
Eph 4:4 There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to one hope when you were called—
Eph 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism;
Eph 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
Eph 4:7 But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it.
Eph 4:8 This is why it says:
“When he ascended on high,
he led captives in his train
and gave gifts to men.”so you chould cange your topic scripture
Quote (Richtuner @ Nov. 19 2012,23:24) My desire is to know what others believe about this scripture
One Lord? Who?
One Faith? Whose?
One Baptism? Only one. The bible in Heb. states that there is a “doctrine of baptisms”, so which one?
Rich,
Many translations describe it along these lines. Hebrews 9:10 These gifts and sacrifices are only about food and drink and special washings. They are only rules about the body. God gave them for his people to follow until the time of his new way.The “One Baptism” I believe refers to our immersion into the Holy Spirit (the born again experience).
My opinion – Wm
Good evening my friends:
Following is the way that I understand Eph 4:5:
One Lord (Jesus), One faith (The Word of God) One Baptism 1 John 5:8:
And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.(baptism)
Love in Christ,
Marty942767 said,
Quote One Lord (Jesus)
Anyone disagree with this?
The bible talks about many lords, even Shara called Abraham lord.
What is the significance of “One Lord”?
Don't forget, there has to be a significance of Paul stating “one” when specifying Lord, Faith, and Baptism.Quote One faith (The Word of God)
What about this?
The bible says that faith comes by hearing the Word, so I would hardly believe the Word is Faith. It produces Faith.
People have faith in all kinds of things besides religion.Quote One Baptism 1 John 5:8:And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.(baptism) Would this apply to “One” as we are all baptized?
Quote (Richtuner @ Nov. 20 2012,11:29) 942767 said, Quote One Lord (Jesus)
Anyone disagree with this?
The bible talks about many lords, even Shara called Abraham lord.
What is the significance of “One Lord”?
Don't forget, there has to be a significance of Paul stating “one” when specifying Lord, Faith, and Baptism.Quote One faith (The Word of God)
What about this?
The bible says that faith comes by hearing the Word, so I would hardly believe the Word is Faith. It produces Faith.
People have faith in all kinds of things besides religion.Quote One Baptism 1 John 5:8:And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.(baptism) Would this apply to “One” as we are all baptized?
Hi Rich,It's actually pretty simple: Lord means owner.
JEHOVAH is “The LORD” as in “The OWNER”.
Jesus (God's Son) is “Lord” as in “owner”.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Richtuner @ Nov. 19 2012,18:29) Don't forget, there has to be a significance of Paul stating “one” when specifying Lord………….
In 1 Cor 8:6, Paul says that for us there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ.But he also tells us in at least two different scriptures to obey our earthly lords as we would obey Christ.
There are many EMPHATICAL statements in the Bible. Not all statements are meant in a LITERAL respect.
I think Marty (90210, or whatever) has answered this question accurately.
It is a good topic, Rich. What are your thoughts on the matter?
Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 20 2012,14:32) Quote (Richtuner @ Nov. 20 2012,11:29) 942767 said, Quote One Lord (Jesus)
Anyone disagree with this?
The bible talks about many lords, even Shara called Abraham lord.
What is the significance of “One Lord”?
Don't forget, there has to be a significance of Paul stating “one” when specifying Lord, Faith, and Baptism.Quote One faith (The Word of God)
What about this?
The bible says that faith comes by hearing the Word, so I would hardly believe the Word is Faith. It produces Faith.
People have faith in all kinds of things besides religion.Quote One Baptism 1 John 5:8:And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.(baptism) Would this apply to “One” as we are all baptized?
Hi Rich,It's actually pretty simple: Lord means owner.
JEHOVAH is “The LORD” as in “The OWNER”.
Jesus (God's Son) is “Lord” as in “owner”.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
“And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts,
crying, Abba, Father. Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son;
and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.” (Gal 4:6-7)To all,
Ephesians 4:3-6
King James Version (KJV)
3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.1) there is an array called unity of the Spirit.
2) it is kept in the bond of peace.
3) There are several elements.
4) the element body is a group of beings.
5) The elements of one Lord and one God are each an separate element of a single being.
6) one hope, one faith, and one baptism are each a separate non-being element.
7) one Spirit is Yahweh's Spirit and is contained in one element but is the same Spirit that dwells in each and every being in the array.
8) Yawheh dwells in every being of the unity through his Spirit; though Paul only mentions the Ephesian church of that time.
9) Yawheh is the God and Father of the array, who is above the array he is part of, and through the array he is part of.Note: From 7 on I am pulling some information from other Scriptures.
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