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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 06 2011,10:26) Ed Why are you spamming all of your stuff in this thread?
WJ
Hi WJ,Is this thread not about me?
Hi WJ,
Sorry, but I take advantage of opportunities!
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Your brother
in Christ, Jesus!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi WJ,
Your comment doesn't have anything to do with to the thread, does it?
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 06 2011,05:26) Ed Why are you spamming all of your stuff in this thread?
WJ
I brought up the issue as insight into who he is.Ed J.
I looked into the issue and here is what I found at one site.
Here is what one web site state about the relationship between a bible code and mysticism. The bible code was originally based on the Hebrew language and I question if it accurately translates into English. It is considered an extreme form of mysticism and I assumed that if you embraced it you would also embrace less extreme forms. This site seems to believe there is something to the code.
There is four ways of interpreting scripture as far as I know and the least authority of these is considered that of the mystic. Parables are a tool of the mystic.
Bibleprobe.com reads:
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The idea of a hidden code in the Bible text is not new. It is a central concept in the Cabala, or traditional Jewish mysticism. According to Cabalistic teachers, the simple meaning of the Bible text is not its true meaning. They believe that God used the individual letters of the Hebrew Bible text as symbols, which when properly understood reveal a greater truth. In their view, each Hebrew letter and its position in the Bible text was set by God with a specific purpose in mind.
Bible Codes and written surface words are just two facets of the Bible. According to ancient Jewish tradition, the Bible has 70 facets. Many say that everything is in the Torah–encrypted in some way. Your birth date, your death date, when you will marry, etc.My Source.
Hi Kerwin,
The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.Numbers are corroborative evidence only; nothing more.
I have learned based on numbers: No “Theology”,
though satan might tell you all differently!Your link is about 'find a word' grids in the Torah.
It's like you are saying airplanes are bad,
then describing boats instead?Think about it.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (kerwin @ Jan. 06 2011,21:07)
I brought up the issue as insight into who he is.
Hi Kerwin,Ezek. 3:25-27 But thou(Ed J), O son of man, behold, they shall put bands upon thee,
and shall bind thee with them, and thou shalt not go out among them: And I(YHVH) will
make thy tongue cleave to the roof of thy mouth, that thou(Ed J) shalt be dumb, and shalt
not be to them a reprover: for they are a rebellious house. But when I(YHVH) speak with thee,
I(YHVH) will open thy mouth(Ed J), and thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith ;
He that heareth, let him hear; and he that forbeareth, let him forbear: for they are a rebellious house.“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter],
the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!God's Signature
יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 06 2011,21:10) Ed J. I looked into the issue and here is what I found at one site.
Here is what one web site state about the relationship between a bible code and mysticism. The bible code was originally based on the Hebrew language and I question if it accurately translates into English. It is considered an extreme form of mysticism and I assumed that if you embraced it you would also embrace less extreme forms. This site seems to believe there is something to the code.
There is four ways of interpreting scripture as far as I know and the least authority of these is considered that of the mystic. Parables are a tool of the mystic.
Bibleprobe.com reads:
Quote
The idea of a hidden code in the Bible text is not new. It is a central concept in the Cabala, or traditional Jewish mysticism. According to Cabalistic teachers, the simple meaning of the Bible text is not its true meaning. They believe that God used the individual letters of the Hebrew Bible text as symbols, which when properly understood reveal a greater truth. In their view, each Hebrew letter and its position in the Bible text was set by God with a specific purpose in mind.
Bible Codes and written surface words are just two facets of the Bible. According to ancient Jewish tradition, the Bible has 70 facets. Many say that everything is in the Torah–encrypted in some way. Your birth date, your death date, when you will marry, etc.My Source.
Quote (Istari @ Jan. 06 2011,23:11) Kerwin, Like Irene, Mikeboll64, Terraricca, Kathi and others, you simply look for something
that appears to fit what you want to say and, no matter what evidence of truth
and reality is put in front of you, the spirit of delusion, stupor and embarrassment
moves you to retain and sustain your error.There is an undercurrent of devilishness in your posts, the
Angel of Light approach, pretending you are after knowledge
but secretly trying to infuse disrespectful ideas into others.They attack the the good citizen and release the criminal
giving the criminal the idea that when he does wrong and
is caught these sentimentalists will come to his rescue…Kerwin, what you pursue is WRONG.
And to others reading this. Consider that you do not become yolked with the forces of evil.
If you hook yourself in with Kerwin, I warn you that you are hooking yourself in
with someone who is not who you think he is, or portrays himself as.You are warned!!!
Ed J.
If you believe I have rebuked you then I assure you I am not rebuking you for your mystic aproach but merely pointing out that is the way you choose to go in what you believe is a search for God.
I am not sure what you are attemting to say in your responce to me.
It believe it is wise to walk in the other man's shoes before judging him. That is why it is good to have insight in who the other man is.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 07 2011,15:05) Ed J. If you believe I have rebuked you then I assure you I am not rebuking you for your mystic aproach but merely pointing out that is the way you choose to go in what you believe is a search for God.
I am not sure what you are attemting to say in your responce to me.
It believe it is wise to walk in the other man's shoes before judging him. That is why it is good to have insight in who the other man is.
Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, 'i am'; and shall deceive many.
adj.
1. Of or relating to religious mysteries or occult rites and practices.
2. Of or relating to mysticism or mystics.
3. Inspiring a sense of mystery and wonder.
4.
a. Mysterious; strange.
b. Enigmatic; obscure.
5. Mystical.
n.
One who practices or believes in mysticism or a given form of mysticism:Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,19:43) Kerwin is dangerous, extremely dangerous, like drinking from a lead cup. He is poison, or HAS Brought Poison, to the forum and made them drink from his cup. Matt.7:2
Ed J.
I already stated that mysticism is held in disrepute by modern society. That certainly does not mean you should trust what they state about it. After all Jesus was held in disrepute by the authorities of his era.
You perhaps should look to those who practice Christian mysticism and see what they state.
Here is a better definition of mysticism from Merriam-Websters Online Dictionary:
Quote Definition of MYSTICISM
1: the experience of mystical union or direct communion with ultimate reality reported by mystics
2: the belief that direct knowledge of God, spiritual truth, or ultimate reality can be attained through subjective experience (as intuition or insight)
3a : vague speculation : a belief without sound basis b : a theory postulating the possibility of direct and intuitive acquisition of ineffable knowledge or power
It is nothing to feel insulted about to be called a mystic.
Hi Ed,
I was wondering why you felt it was necessary to quote Istari's hateful words to Kerwin?
Does this somehow make you “right” in your discussion with him?
mike
Hi Mike,
Your a little late in joining in on this question.
Kerwin has finally said he didn't mean the standard
allocation of the word mystic. I hope this clarifies things for you.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgNo, I'm just wondering how reposting hateful words said about him had any bearing in your discussion.
What am I missing here?
mike
Quote What am I missing here?
Hi Mike,The definition that Kerwin allocates to the word 'mystic'.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Everyone,
James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God.
Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.Isaiah 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee(Ed J) shall prosper;
and every (LUcifer) tongue that shall rise against thee(Ed J) in judgment thou shalt condemn.
This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith .Looks like this issue is finally settled! The accuser has FINALLY left!
Rev.12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation,
and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ:
for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them
before our God day and night.Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org …(Eccl.9:12-16)Ed,
Do you really feel good about chasing off one of the most enlightened and loved members here?
Wasn't it you who preferred that JA not get kicked off despite the hateful things he posted to MANY of us?
Ed, the fact is that Kathi called you on doing something deceitful, whether or not your intention was to be deceitful. You have done the same thing to others here, including myself. And instead of apologizing to her as you should have, you took offense to her rebuke and started an all out war with her over the matter.
I just called Jack on doing something very similar today. I hope he just apologizes for the mistake instead of taking the course of action you did with Kathi.
You were in the wrong then, and you are most definitely in the wrong to post this crap today considering she hasn't posted here in over a month………..and is not even around to defend herself.
Sad.
mike
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 23 2011,10:51) Ed, Do you really feel good about chasing off one of the most enlightened and loved members here?
Wasn't it you who preferred that JA not get kicked off despite the hateful things he posted to MANY of us?
Ed, the fact is that Kathi called you on doing something deceitful, whether or not your intention was to be deceitful. You have done the same thing to others here, including myself. And instead of apologizing to her as you should have, you took offense to her rebuke and started an all out war with her over the matter.
I just called Jack on doing something very similar today. I hope he just apologizes for the mistake instead of taking the course of action you did with Kathi.
You were in the wrong then, and you are most definitely in the wrong to post this crap today considering she hasn't posted here in over a month………..and is not even around to defend herself.
Sad.
mike
Hi Mike,What are you accusing me of doing that was deceitful?
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 23 2011,10:51) Do you really feel good about chasing off one of the most enlightened and loved members here?
Galatians 2:6 But of these who seemed to be somewhat (to you for whatever reason),
(whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no man's person:)
for they who seemed to be somewhat (to you) in conference added nothing to me:Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14 / Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org …(Eccl.9:12-16)
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