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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 16 2010,04:17) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2010,17:51) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 10 2010,09:42) Hi BD, Babylon = quran = 71
The word “Babylon” defines as “confusion”; here are some verses on “confusion”.James 3:16 For where envying and strife is , there is confusion and every evil work.
Isaiah 24:10 The city of confusion(Babylon) is broken down: every house is shut up, that no man may come in.
1Cor.14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Psalm 71:1 In thee, O LORD, do I put my trust: let me never be put to confusion.Rev.17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written…
MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.Rev.18:2-3And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen,
is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit,
and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. For all nations(the world) have drunk of the wine
of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her,
and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.Rev.18:18-19 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city,
wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon,
that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.18:16-17 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple,
and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls! For in one hour so great
riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors,
and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off.Third Post from bottom <– Click here
“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center], the “[smallest chapter]” of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed Jay Lie=71
Hi AllThis thread is entertaining and proof that to use Gemetria as a method of interpretation is simply foolish.
As can be seen the numbers can be manipulated to mean many things.
Consider also that the original scrptural text was written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek and therefore certain words may be translated with different words yet having the same meaning.
So the variables of possible errors would be astronomical.
If Ed j wanted to be truly honest to the text then he would use the Hebrew and Greek alphabets to create his Bible code.
I suppose this is why ED claims the akjv is the only true translation, yet he himself admits there are errors.
Therefore it is evident that the “Bible Code” that Ed j claims as being true, instead is ludicrous and can only serve to bring confusion!
I think BD has it right on this one…
Made up Bible code = 117
WJ
Hi WJ,God orchestrated it's design and locked it into the AKJV Bible!
Prob.18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it , it is folly and shame unto him.
Prov.25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honor of kings is to search out a matter.It's obvious you didn't even read this thread …Click here… Did you; be honest?
That's cause your to worried about being right, instead of investigating REAL “Bible Truth”=117! (2Timothy 2:13 / Matt.7:7)“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org]http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi ED,
God does not lock His truth in only one bible version.
Such claims are usually to be heard from cult leaders
Those with the help of the Author can find light in all.I believe God reveals Himself in many different ways to all different people.
For some its reading the Words, for some they see numbers, for some it is revealed in nature, for some it may be dreams visions, for some it may be God calling directly. For some a person may lead them,
Whatever if it brings people to their own understanding. And to God and His Son.
Wouldnt you agree?Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 17 2010,16:58) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 16 2010,04:17) Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 09 2010,17:51) Ed wrote:Hi BD,
Babylon = quran = 71
The word “Babylon” defines as “confusion”; here are some verses on “confusion”.James 3:16 For where envying and strife is , there is confusion and every evil work.
Isaiah 24:10 The city of confusion(Babylon) is broken down: every house is shut up, that no man may come in.
1Cor.14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Psalm 71:1 In thee, O LORD, do I put my trust: let me never be put to confusion.Rev.17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written…
MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.Rev.18:2-3And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen,
is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit,
and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. For all nations(the world) have drunk of the wine
of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her,
and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.Rev.18:18-19 And cried when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, What city is like unto this great city!
And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city,
wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon,
that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.18:16-17 And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple,
and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls! For in one hour so great
riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors,
and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off.Third Post from bottom <– Click here
“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center], the “[smallest chapter]” of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed Jay Lie=71
Hi AllThis thread is entertaining and proof that to use Gemetria as a method of interpretation is simply foolish.
As can be seen the numbers can be manipulated to mean many things.
Consider also that the original scrptural text was written in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek and therefore certain words may be translated with different words yet having the same meaning.
So the variables of possible errors would be astronomical.
If Ed j wanted to be truly honest to the text then he would use the Hebrew and Greek alphabets to create his Bible code.
I suppose this is why ED claims the akjv is the only true translation, yet he himself admits there are errors.
Therefore it is evident that the “Bible Code” that Ed j claims as being true, instead is ludicrous and can only serve to bring confusion!
I think BD has it right on this one…
Made up Bible code = 117
WJ
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 17 2010,16:58) Hi WJ, God orchestrated it's design and locked it into the AKJV Bible!
Really? What about the original Hebrew and Greek Languages that the scriptures were written in, did he do the same there also and could you tell us how that would match your claim.Its laughable that you believe that the AKJV is Gods only Bible when you admit errors in it. What proof do you have that the AKJV is Gods only chosen Bible?
Blessings WJ
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2010,09:21) Hi ED,
God does not lock His truth in only one bible version.
Such claims are usually to be heard from cult leaders
Those with the help of the Author can find light in all.
Hi Nick,YHVH also locked this “Bible Truth” in the Hebrew Masoretic Texts.
Do you think YHVH is incapable of doing this as well without a 'cult leader'?
People need: “BIBLE PERCEPTION“=151, to understand “BIBLE TRUTH“=117 ! (AKJV Eph.4:22-24)God’s unity of Spirit is seen through prime number counterparts.
God’s Name (יהוה) IS written EXACTLY 6823 times in the Hebrew Masoretic Texts. See how
the Gematria value of Ιησους Χριστоς=2368 Ē-Ā-Soos Chrĭstŏs (Jesus Christ in Greek)
bears a resemblance to the number of times God’s Name is used in the Hebrew Masoretic Texts.6823 is the 877th prime number in a long list of primes starting with two (2).
Now this might not seem significant until you realize that the number 877
is the 151st prime number. This number (151) shows “Unity” in Spirit.YHVH GOD is ONE=151 (Deut.6:4 / Eph.4:6)
1) The LORD JEHOVAH=151 (Isaiah 12:2 / Isaiah 26:4) (Old “Testament”=117)
2) LORD of Hosts=151…(AKJV Bible)…His Hosts=117: Jesus and ALL of His brethren! (Rev.11:15)
3) Holy Spirit=151 (“The Word:Father“=151) GOD: Old and New “Testament”=117)
4) Jesus Christ=151 (“Testator“=151) (Hebrews 9:16-17) (New “Testament”=117)“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 17 2010,16:58) This is no mere coincidence; matter of fact the Hebrew language has NO word for “coincidence”! Because of this, they don’t believe there are such things as coincidences just divine intervention.
Yea and the Hebrew has no word for “Code” either so I guess they must not believe in a “Bible Code”!
Blessings WJ
Hi ED,
God used astrologers to find the Lord Jesus when the Jewish experts failed.
He can use numbers to support His teachings too.But we should neither become astrologers nor numerologists.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2010,12:34) Hi ED,
God used astrologers to find the Lord Jesus when the Jewish experts failed.
He can use numbers to support His teachings too.But we should neither become astrologers nor numerologists.
Hi Nick,Let me start by telling you I have had my understanding of God for over 30 years
before numbers such as these shown in your post were introduced to me.Have you ever seen the Jim Cary movie 'Bruce Almighty'?
Well there is a scene where he is crying out to God… “God to show me a sign”!
He drives past a sign that says “Bridge Out”. Another that says “Caution”.
He is completely oblivious to the many signs, continuing towards an incomplete Bridge.That is how numbers were for me, “no interest” “didn't care”, but I kept seeing the number 54, and didn't have a clue as to why?
Then in 1997 I was introduced to a book called “Theomatics II” by Author Del Washburn; who documented anomalies in the original texts.Are you familiar with the Prophet Amos?
Amos 7:14 …I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son;
but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit: And the LORD took me
as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel.Well my story is very similar, God still uses people today and it is my calling to write the very book that documents the PROOF of His existence.
God has even wrote about me in his book: the Bible. This (I believe) has “only” been done as cooperative proof positive of “HIS” existence.
Without it, I would be considered just another “crackpot”, in a long history of crackpots; the extent of this proof is still yet to be revealed.
I know much of it already, but as my recently departed friend once said “Nobody can know everything about everything”.
I have No buffeting spirit like the Apostle Paul had, because I have No ego(because I killed it off long ago along with anger).The numbers are corroborative evidence only; nothing more.
I have drawn NO conclusions based on them, though satan will tell you differently!Sorry for the long version, but I thought you aught to know.
God bless you Nick,
Ed J (Psalm 119:98-101)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJer.33:3 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 18 2010,13:36) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2010,12:34) Hi ED,
God used astrologers to find the Lord Jesus when the Jewish experts failed.
He can use numbers to support His teachings too.But we should neither become astrologers nor numerologists.
Hi Nick,Let me start by telling you I have had my understanding of God for over 30 years
before numbers such as these shown in your post were introduced to me.Have you ever seen the Jim Cary movie 'Bruce Almighty'?
Well there is a scene where he is crying out to God… “God to show me a sign”!
He drives past a sign that says “Bridge Out”. Another that says “Caution”.
He is completely oblivious to the many signs, continuing towards an incomplete Bridge.That is how numbers were for me, “no interest” “didn't care”, but I kept seeing the number 54, and didn't have a clue as to why?
Then in 1997 I was introduced to a book called “Theomatics II” by Author Del Washburn; who documented anomalies in the original texts.Are you familiar with the Prophet Amos?
Amos 7:14 …I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son;
but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit: And the LORD took me
as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel.Well my story is very similar, God still uses people today and it is my calling to write the very book that documents the PROOF of His existence.
God has even wrote about me in his book: the Bible. This (I believe) has “only” been done as cooperative proof positive of “HIS” existence.
Without it, I would be considered just another “crackpot”, in a long history of crackpots; the extent of this proof is still yet to be revealed.
I know much of it already, but as my recently departed friend once said “Nobody can know everything about everything”.
I have No buffeting spirit like the Apostle Paul had, because I have No ego(because I killed it off long ago along with anger).The numbers are corroborative evidence only; nothing more.
I have drawn NO conclusions based on them, though satan will tell you differently!Sorry for the long version, but I thought you aught to know.
God bless you Nick,
Ed J (Psalm 119:98-101)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJer.33:3 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.
edjyou did not receive understanding ,if you added it looks you lost it,well you lost many of us ,
you may talk in tongues but no one understand you ,so you create more confusing than truth.
and the purpose of a teacher is to communicate his understanding to others ,if he can not do that it would be better he say nothing.
unless it is to seduce newcomers with little knowledge and play the illuminated to them.
by trying to show them that the scriptures are out of date the way they are today.
It depends what you can understand. Theres a spiritual language too.
I like Ed he doesnt scare people off.Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 18 2010,13:36) God has even wrote about me in his book: the Bible.
Hi Ed,I have heard that Joseph Smith actually changed the book of Genesis in the Morman's Bible to read as if he were prophesied about. I don't know if it is true or not. Anyway, could you tell me where God wrote about you in the Bible?
peace and love,
mikeQuote (karmarie @ Mar. 18 2010,15:20) It depends what you can understand. Theres a spiritual language too.
I like Ed he doesnt scare people off.
karwe usely like what is not good for us first.
for many reasons,it looks better,taste better,it is softer,feels great.
but reality goes with understanding of what is true and truth of God,
i know i am crude in some way ,but i am not blind and never try to lead people out of truth,
the foundation in the scriptures have been layed long ago,
it seems to much for some to fallow,
to me the real secret of the scriptures is to added it up.
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 18 2010,17:59) we usely like what is not good for us first. for many reasons,it looks better,taste better,it is softer,feels great.
but reality goes with understanding of what is true and truth of God,
T, Hi. I was the opposite I ignored my intuition. When I felt something wasnt right I didnt leave well iv learned the hard way and I trust my intuition now.
It doesnt mean I believe everything people say im not gullible. If I was I would have joined a church or something long ago!
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 17 2010,23:50) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 18 2010,13:36) God has even wrote about me in his book: the Bible.
Hi Ed,I have heard that Joseph Smith actually changed the book of Genesis in the Morman's Bible to read as if he were prophesied about. I don't know if it is true or not. Anyway, could you tell me where God wrote about you in the Bible?
peace and love,
mike
MikeI believe it is Joshua 22:34.
Actually the Lord wrote about all of us that are part of his church, but when men claim that there is personal scripture written about them, nah probably a cult and definitely a lie.
Just check out the threads for Ronald Wienland who claims that he and his wife are the “two witnesses” in revelations!
His prophesys like all false prophets have failed.
Blessings WJ
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 18 2010,15:50) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 18 2010,13:36) God has even wrote about me in his book: the Bible.
Hi Ed,I have heard that Joseph Smith actually changed the book of Genesis in the Morman's Bible to read as if he were prophesied about. I don't know if it is true or not. Anyway, could you tell me where God wrote about you in the Bible?
peace and love,
mike
Hi Mike,May “Our YHVH”=117 bless you more and more! (Matt.7:7 / 2Timothy 2:13)
AKJV Joshua 22:34: And the children of Reuben, And the children of Gad
(and half of the tribe of Manasseh (Joshua 22:11)) called the altar (עד [Ed]);
for [Ed] shall be a witness between us that [יהוה האלהים=117] is [“GOD”].Numbers don’t convey ideas; but numbers can confirm ideas.
(Reuben=65 Gad=12 Manasseh=80÷2=40) [65+12+40=117].“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center], the “[smallest chapter]” of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 19 2010,06:51) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 17 2010,23:50) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 18 2010,13:36) God has even wrote about me in his book: the Bible.
Hi Ed,I have heard that Joseph Smith actually changed the book of Genesis in the Morman's Bible to read as if he were prophesied about. I don't know if it is true or not. Anyway, could you tell me where God wrote about you in the Bible?
peace and love,
mike
MikeI believe it is Joshua 22:34.
Actually the Lord wrote about all of us that are part of his church, but when men claim that there is personal scripture written about them, nah probably a cult and definitely a lie.
Just check out the threads for Ronald Wienland who claims that he and his wife are the “two witnesses” in revelations!
His prophesys like all false prophets have failed.
Blessings WJ
Hi WJ,Glad your doing well.
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 18 2010,18:19) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 19 2010,06:51) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 17 2010,23:50) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 18 2010,13:36) God has even wrote about me in his book: the Bible.
Hi Ed,I have heard that Joseph Smith actually changed the book of Genesis in the Morman's Bible to read as if he were prophesied about. I don't know if it is true or not. Anyway, could you tell me where God wrote about you in the Bible?
peace and love,
mike
MikeI believe it is Joshua 22:34.
Actually the Lord wrote about all of us that are part of his church, but when men claim that there is personal scripture written about them, nah probably a cult and definitely a lie.
Just check out the threads for Ronald Wienland who claims that he and his wife are the “two witnesses” in revelations!
His prophesys like all false prophets have failed.
Blessings WJ
Hi WJ,Glad your doing well.
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDThank you! I hope you are doing well also!!!
Blessings WJ
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 18 2010,14:53) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 18 2010,13:36) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2010,12:34) Hi ED,
God used astrologers to find the Lord Jesus when the Jewish experts failed.
He can use numbers to support His teachings too.But we should neither become astrologers nor numerologists.
Hi Nick,Let me start by telling you I have had my understanding of God for over 30 years
before numbers such as these shown in your post were introduced to me.Have you ever seen the Jim Cary movie 'Bruce Almighty'?
Well there is a scene where he is crying out to God… “God to show me a sign”!
He drives past a sign that says “Bridge Out”. Another that says “Caution”.
He is completely oblivious to the many signs, continuing towards an incomplete Bridge.That is how numbers were for me, “no interest” “didn't care”, but I kept seeing the number 54, and didn't have a clue as to why?
Then in 1997 I was introduced to a book called “Theomatics II” by Author Del Washburn; who documented anomalies in the original texts.Are you familiar with the Prophet Amos?
Amos 7:14 …I was no prophet, neither was I a prophet's son;
but I was an herdman, and a gatherer of sycomore fruit: And the LORD took me
as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel.Well my story is very similar, God still uses people today and it is my calling to write the very book that documents the PROOF of His existence.
God has even wrote about me in his book: the Bible. This (I believe) has “only” been done as cooperative proof positive of “HIS” existence.
Without it, I would be considered just another “crackpot”, in a long history of crackpots; the extent of this proof is still yet to be revealed.
I know much of it already, but as my recently departed friend once said “Nobody can know everything about everything”.
I have No buffeting spirit like the Apostle Paul had, because I have No ego(because I killed it off long ago along with anger).The numbers are corroborative evidence only; nothing more.
I have drawn NO conclusions based on them, though satan will tell you differently!Sorry for the long version, but I thought you aught to know.
God bless you Nick,
Ed J (Psalm 119:98-101)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJer.33:3 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.
edjyou did not receive understanding ,if you added it looks you lost it,well you lost many of us ,
you may talk in tongues but no one understand you ,so you create more confusing than truth.
and the purpose of a teacher is to communicate his understanding to others ,if he can not do that it would be better he say nothing.
unless it is to seduce newcomers with little knowledge and play the illuminated to them.
by trying to show them that the scriptures are out of date the way they are today.
My point exactly.Georg
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