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Quote (kerwin @ May 06 2009,21:31) Quote (Gene @ May 05 2009,23:44) Kerwin…….To me that means the powers that exist, but what does that have to do with what i Said? peace and love………………..gene
Mostly that your use of “the powers” and the actual meaning of “the powers” seem to be different.“The powers” means beings(plural) with power not one being with multiple powers. In the example I used it means those with authority over the speaker and most likely the listener as well.
The angels are powers as in fact are demons.
Kerwin…….The word (ELOHIM) is a uni-plural word it means (POWERS) like a group of powers. more then one but operating as one. Example (the church) one church made up of many members but still one church. IMOpeace and love……………………gene
Quote (Gene @ May 06 2009,22:48) Quote (kerwin @ May 06 2009,21:31) Quote (Gene @ May 05 2009,23:44) Kerwin…….To me that means the powers that exist, but what does that have to do with what i Said? peace and love………………..gene
Mostly that your use of “the powers” and the actual meaning of “the powers” seem to be different.“The powers” means beings(plural) with power not one being with multiple powers. In the example I used it means those with authority over the speaker and most likely the listener as well.
The angels are powers as in fact are demons.
Kerwin…….The word (ELOHIM) is a uni-plural word it means (POWERS) like a group of powers. more then one but operating as one. Example (the church) one church made up of many members but still one church. IMOpeace and love……………………gene
Have you ever consider that Elohim is the unity of the Spirit?Kerwin……….Yes, there are seven spirits of (ONE) Elohim or GOD, These are now in Jesus as revelation shows, and they go before the throne of ONE LORD. Here O Israel the LORD our GOD is (ONE LORD)< Notice it doesn't say one GOD why? because the LORD controls the seven Spirits which Make up HIS POWERS or ELOHIM . But it is not wrong to say these make up (ONE) GOD either. The seven powers operate as ONE. IMO
peace and love…………………gene
Nick……..how do you figure that? There are Seven Spirit Powers of ONE LORD. Therefore the LORD our GOD (ELOHIM) or POWERS, LORD GOD, or Yah Elohim (HE EXISTS, with POWERS).
love and peace…………………….gene
Nick………..GOD is Spirit and there are seven Spirits (OF) GOD. What part of that don't you understand.
Rev 5:6…> and I beheld, and, LO, in the (MIDEST) of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midest of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven Horns (POWERS) and SEVEN Eyes (intellects) which (ARE) the SEVEN Spirits of GOD sent forth into (ALL) the earth. and He came and took the book out of the right hand of HIM (the LORD) that sat upon the throne.
Now notice the seven Spirits were in the MIDEST of the THRONE.
peace and love……………..gene
Yes brother Nick,
There is only one Spirit but that same spirit manifests in seven powers(attributes) of God.
Please see Isa 11:
1 But a shoot shall sprout from the stump of Jesse, and from his roots a bud shall blossom.2 The spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him: a spirit of wisdom and of understanding, A spirit of counsel and of strength, a spirit of knowledge and of fear of the LORD,
3 and his delight shall be the fear of the LORD. Not by appearance shall he judge, nor by hearsay shall he decide,Our brother Gene says that God's One Spirit is manifested in seven (fold) spirits which is fully rested on Jesus the Christ.
Peace to you
AdamAdam……….You have it right brother. Nick has not grown enough yet to understand these thing, There are seven Spirits (intellects) and Powers that represent the (ONE) Elohim , all controlled by ONE LORD ,(YAH )
Peace and love to you and yours Adam……………….gene
Quote (gollamudi @ May 07 2009,11:46) Yes brother Nick,
There is only one Spirit but that same spirit manifests in seven powers(attributes) of God.
Please see Isa 11:
1 But a shoot shall sprout from the stump of Jesse, and from his roots a bud shall blossom.2 The spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him: a spirit of wisdom and of understanding, A spirit of counsel and of strength, a spirit of knowledge and of fear of the LORD,
3 and his delight shall be the fear of the LORD. Not by appearance shall he judge, nor by hearsay shall he decide,Our brother Gene says that God's One Spirit is manifested in seven (fold) spirits which is fully rested on Jesus the Christ.
Peace to you
Adam
If my counting is right I get 6 words that describe the one spirit which is not seven powers as Gene insists. I believe seven fold was just a way of say seven.Quote (kerwin @ May 07 2009,12:55) Quote (gollamudi @ May 07 2009,11:46) Yes brother Nick,
There is only one Spirit but that same spirit manifests in seven powers(attributes) of God.
Please see Isa 11:
1 But a shoot shall sprout from the stump of Jesse, and from his roots a bud shall blossom.2 The spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him: a spirit of wisdom and of understanding, A spirit of counsel and of strength, a spirit of knowledge and of fear of the LORD,
3 and his delight shall be the fear of the LORD. Not by appearance shall he judge, nor by hearsay shall he decide,Our brother Gene says that God's One Spirit is manifested in seven (fold) spirits which is fully rested on Jesus the Christ.
Peace to you
Adam
If my counting is right I get 6 words that describe the one spirit which is not seven powers as Gene insists. I believe seven fold was just a way of say seven.
1) Wisdom
2) Strength
3) Understanding
4) Counsel
5) Strength
6) Knowledge
7) Fear of the LORDHi S,
So God Who is spirit was on the Throne but separate from Him in front of that throne were seven lamps which are THE SPIRITS of God??Kerwin……….the Seven Spirits (INTELLECTS) are connected with (POWER) Jesus has seven Horns (POWERS) and Seven eyes (intellects) which (ARE) the seven SPIRITS of GOD. Scripture explains it clearly. Remember Jesus said the words i am telling you (ARE) SPIRIT , now ask yourself what is a word? is it not the expression of intellects.
Zec 4:10….> For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel those seven; they are the eyes of the LORD which run to and fro through the whole earth. There are seven Spirits with powers, making up (ONE) GOD, and all controlled by (ONE LORD). IMO
peace and love……………………gene
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2009,08:44) Hi S,
So God Who is spirit was on the Throne but separate from Him in front of that throne were seven lamps which are THE SPIRITS of God??
Nick………..where does it say GOD sits on the throne?, It says the LORD sit on the throne. and His seven spirits are in the midst of that throne and are now in Jesus also. Seeking, i believe Has listed those seven spirits (INTELLECT) that are coupled with POWER and these are the seven spirits composing (ONE GOD), or ELOHIM or group of POWERS controlled by ONE LORD. So when it says GOD is SPIRIT it is not lying they are SPIRITS with POWER. And are sent forth into all the earth by (ONE) LORD, Hear O Israel the LORD our GOD is ONE LORD. This should not be hard to put together. IMOpeace and love………………..gene
Nick………….”Hear O Israel the LORD our GOD is (ONE) LORD”. What part of that scripture you don't understand? My versions will alway be adjusted as GOD shows me more and gives me more understand. I don't believe i know it all as you seem to think you do, so I will always grow, while you because you think you already know it all will never grow. IMO
peace and love…………….gene
Quote (SEEKING @ May 07 2009,16:14) Quote (kerwin @ May 07 2009,12:55) Quote (gollamudi @ May 07 2009,11:46) Yes brother Nick,
There is only one Spirit but that same spirit manifests in seven powers(attributes) of God.
Please see Isa 11:
1 But a shoot shall sprout from the stump of Jesse, and from his roots a bud shall blossom.2 The spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him: a spirit of wisdom and of understanding, A spirit of counsel and of strength, a spirit of knowledge and of fear of the LORD,
3 and his delight shall be the fear of the LORD. Not by appearance shall he judge, nor by hearsay shall he decide,Our brother Gene says that God's One Spirit is manifested in seven (fold) spirits which is fully rested on Jesus the Christ.
Peace to you
Adam
If my counting is right I get 6 words that describe the one spirit which is not seven powers as Gene insists. I believe seven fold was just a way of say seven.
1) Wisdom
2) Strength
3) Understanding
4) Counsel
5) Strength
6) Knowledge
7) Fear of the LORD
Hi Seeking,
You listed strength twice.
Love ya,
Kathi
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