Does nick really believe the bible?

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  • #200639
    KangarooJack
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    To ALL:

    Is it possible that Nick can really believe the Bible when he suggests that the creatures in heaven commited idolatry when they sang a song to Jesus which was about Jesus? I personally think not.

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,08:45)
    Hi KJ,
    We who are in Christ worship God with him.
    Your faith is in other gods.


    So you deny the legitimacy of songs to Christ and about Christ?

    Now when He had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each having a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints. 9 And they sang a new song, saying:

         “ You are worthy to take the scroll,
         And to open its seals;
         For You were slain,
         And have redeemed us to God by Your blood
         Out of every tribe and tongue and people and nation,
          10 And have made us[d] kings[e] and priests to our God;
         And we[f] shall reign on the earth.”

    So you're saying that the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders in heaven were wrong for singing to the Lamb and about the Lamb? Are you sayng that they were singing and speaking contrary to the Spirit?

    KJ

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,09:31)
    Hi KJ,
    We are warned about idolatry[1JN5] and the worship of the created instead of the Creator.[Rom1]
    Men prefer to worship the messenger of their own kind rather than listening to him as God advised.


    Where are we warned about idolatry concerning Jesus?

    You have clearly answered my question. You believe that the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders committed idolatry in singing to the Lamb and about the Lamb. You are clearly an unbeliever and you have no place in the kingdom. WJ is correct in categorizing you among those to whom Jesus says, “Depart from me you workers of iniquity. I never knew you.”

    You have proven that you do not believe the Bible.

    KJ

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    the Roo

    #200640
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KJ,
    Back to your posts that involve personal attacks.
    How many of these have you set up now?
    All in defence of your ignorance?

    #200642
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KJ,
    Idolatry is of men.
    Your accusations are unfounded and based on your ignorance of the Spirit of Christ.
    The Word that was in Christ Jesus was with God in the beginning and inspired the prophets[1Peter1].

    #200644
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 29 2010,09:48)
    To ALL:

    the Roo


    Hi Jack,

    How old were you when you got married?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #200645
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,09:51)
    Hi KJ,
    Back to your posts that involve personal attacks.
    How many of these have you set up now?
    All in defence of your ignorance?


    Nick,

    You should be placed in the “skeptics” section here. You definitely do not accept the testimony of the Christian Bible. You have clearly suggested that the creatures and the elders who sang to the Lamb around the heavenly throne were idolaters.

    I am not attacking you. I am exposing you.

    KJ

    #200648
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KJ,
    Since the trinity is not in the bible should you be in the believers section?
    Expose yourself – in scriptural terms you preach falsehood

    #200652
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,10:06)
    Hi KJ,
    Since the trinity is not in the bible should you be in the believers section?
    Expose yourself – in scriptural terms you preach falsehood


    Nick,

    How can you claim to believe the Bible when you say that those who sang to the Lamb around the heavenly throne were idolaters? After the singing was done did God cast them out of heaven into the pit?

    You are under wrath Nick.

    KJ

    #200654
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 29 2010,09:57)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,09:51)
    Hi KJ,
    Back to your posts that involve personal attacks.
    How many of these have you set up now?
    All in defence of your ignorance?


    Nick,

    You should be placed in the “skeptics” section here. You definitely do not accept the testimony of the Christian Bible. You have clearly suggested that the creatures and the elders who sang to the Lamb around the heavenly throne were idolaters.

    I am not attacking you. I am exposing you.

    KJ


    Hi Kang,

    Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
    Rom.12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
    Why do you call Jesus Lord and not do the things which Jesus said in Rom.12:18?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #200658
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 29 2010,10:15)

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 29 2010,09:57)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 29 2010,09:51)
    Hi KJ,
    Back to your posts that involve personal attacks.
    How many of these have you set up now?
    All in defence of your ignorance?


    Nick,

    You should be placed in the “skeptics” section here. You definitely do not accept the testimony of the Christian Bible. You have clearly suggested that the creatures and the elders who sang to the Lamb around the heavenly throne were idolaters.

    I am not attacking you. I am exposing you.

    KJ


    Hi Kang,

    Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
    Rom.12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.
    Why do you call Jesus Lord and not do the things which Jesus said in Rom.12:18?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Your point being…?

    Why don't you check in on this too ED J? Do you also feel that the creatures and the elders around the heavenly throne were idolaters for singing to the Lamb about the Lamb?

    the Roo

    #200661
    Ed J
    Participant

    HI Jack,

    Certainly Jesus deserves admiration for stooping down
    to pick us up, making us kings and priests to our Father.
    Rev.5:10 And (Jesus) hast made us unto [our YHVH=117]
    kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. (Rom.8:17)

    You still haven't told me how old you are?
    31 years of marriage, plus 18 equals 49; is this correct?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #200663
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 29 2010,10:53)
    HI Jack,

    Certainly Jesus deserves admiration for stooping down
    to pick us up, making us kings and priests to our Father.
    Rev.5:10 And (Jesus) hast made us unto [our YHVH=117]
    kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. (Rom.8:17)

    You still haven't told me how old you are?
    31 years of marriage, plus 18 equals 49; is this correct?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    So you would disagree with Nick that the creatures and elders around the throne were idolaters for praising the Lamb in song? Correct?

    Any personal information I want you to know is in my personal profile.

    the Roo

    #200664
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Jack,

    Normally I wouldn't ask how old someone is,
    but you brought up age in another thread;
    indicating you were older than me. So if you are 49,
    you are NOT older than me like you said you were.

    My goal is to seek agreement with people. Is yours?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #200667
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ June 29 2010,11:23)
    Hi Jack,

    Normally I wouldn't ask how old someone is,
    but you brought up age in another thread;
    indicating you were older than me. So if you are 49,
    you are NOT older than me like you said you were.

    My goal is to seek agreement with people. Is yours?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ED J,

    I don't remember bringing up age but I take your word for it. Please answer my question or don't reply at all. Do you disagree with Nick that the creatures and elders around the heavenly throne were idolaters because they sang a praise song to the Lamb which was about the Lamb?

    the Roo

    #200698
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 29 2010,11:29)
    Do you disagree with Nick that the creatures and elders around the heavenly throne were idolaters because they sang a praise song to the Lamb which was about the Lamb?


    Hi Jack,

    Am I not alllowed to praise my son when he does well? Does that make him God when I do? ???

    This is silly. God never said He is the only one who has glory or deserves praise of any kind, did He?

    mike

    #200701
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KJ,
    Really?
    Do we have to believe in your trinty god to avoid being under wrath or does that bring wrath?

    #200834
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 29 2010,11:29)

    Quote (Ed J @ June 29 2010,11:23)
    Hi Jack,

    Normally I wouldn't ask how old someone is,
    but you brought up age in another thread;
    indicating you were older than me. So if you are 49,
    you are NOT older than me like you said you were.

    My goal is to seek agreement with people. Is yours?

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    ED J,

    I don't remember bringing up age but I take your word for it. Please answer my question or don't reply at all. Do you disagree with Nick that the creatures and elders around the heavenly throne were idolaters because they sang a praise song to the Lamb which was about the Lamb?

    the Roo


    Hi Jack,

    Here are some lyrics for you about the lamb…

    Great is Thy faithfulness!
    Great is Thy faithfulness!
    Morning by morning new mercies I see.
    All I have needed Thy hand hath provided;
    Great is Thy faithfulness, Lord, unto me!

    God bless
    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #200884
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 29 2010,09:06)

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 29 2010,11:29)
    Do you disagree with Nick that the creatures and elders around the heavenly throne were idolaters because they sang a praise song to the Lamb which was about the Lamb?


    Hi Jack,

    Am I not alllowed to praise my son when he does well?  Does that make him God when I do?   ???

    This is silly.  God never said He is the only one who has glory or deserves praise of any kind, did He?

    mike


    are you serious,

    dont forget you ever said this Mike,

    because was it David or you, that said that God doesnt SHARE his glory.

    #200891
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi SF,
    Why do you think the glory of the Son seen on the mountain[Jn1.14] is a share in the glory of God?

    #200895
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 30 2010,09:55)
    Hi SF,
    Why do you think the glory of the Son seen on the mountain[Jn1.14] is a share in the glory of God?


    God is a Spirit

    #200896
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi SF,
    So?

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