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    Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 08 2010,14:02)
    Wj,

    I don't know why she is attacking me in this thread – even if Nick is her “Brother” in whatever sense that means, it does not mask the TRUTH – look through the back post (in an manner of speaking) Have i said this in secret – no – so how is Princess coming only now to say this thing?

    Nick annoyed the “bejesus” out of me – I reported him but it was said he was SICK (Don't know what sense it was meant) – constant unrelated ONE LINERS (Actually Three lines of nonesense). What did i say “Nick must be running a program that just posts randomised selection of text to an open thread” so bad was his postings.

    Others complained about him, and some said 'he's lovely!' yeah, was it his mother?!!


    You boast alot there JA, of how great you are and how lowly everyone else is.

    It seems you would like to increase while others decrease.

    Once again you defend your self, by bringing up a *weakness of another. Such a bore, you are.

    You bring no meat to the table, adding a piece of parsley to the plate does not make slop anymore appeasing.

    You attach others, you do not test the spirit. There is definitly no good you hold onto or speak.

    You ask me to be a sister, alas with the same mouth you do not understand what a brother is?

    #219142
    kerwin
    Participant

    Just Askin,

    You wrote about Nick Hassan:

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    I asked several times what the matter was but all i got was “God is spirit” – does that sound like a sane person?

    Sounds completely sane to me since Jesus did the same thing.   For example , a woman asks about liquid water and Jesus switches the subject to  Spiritual water.

    It is true Nick wrote more like a Chinese writer of fortune cookie fortunes and thus in mysticisms.  That just gives you a mystery to solve with the mind God created for you to use and guided by God's Spirit. :cool:

    #219299

    Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 08 2010,14:43)
    Shimmer,

    I notice that it is the females who seemed to like reading one line nonesenses from Nick.

    Posting things like: “God is Spirit” in every post with noting else??
    or some spurious verse that didn't relate to what was in the post he was claiming to be responding to.

    I asked several times what the matter was but all i got was “God is spirit” – does that sound like a sane person?
    I could write a program to do that – simply select from a random set of precreated verses – look for a 'link” word in the post and select the random verse that relates to that link word. Hey, all done – annoy the whats it out of everyone.. or even simpler – jost post a pure randon verse… Gals will love me!! whooee! NART!!!!


    So are you saying you believe that god is a man and not spirit?

    What is so hard to understand about that, what rebuttal did you give Nick?

    You seem to be obsessed with the women of this board, something is just not right about this.

    #219620
    shimmer
    Participant

    None of this has anything to do with the topic, thanks. To move on, JA isnt obsessed with anything but is only interested in discussing scripture. Theres enough insults damaging people here it needs to stop. So please everyone stop with it, that includes me,

    None of this is Christian behaviour no wonder no-one is here anymore, people can only take so much.

    Personal attacks need to be stopped.

    #219626
    shimmer
    Participant

    I believe the most damaging doctrine is the 'eternal suffering and torment of hell' because that is what changes the heart.

    People do good things to avoid going to hell. Or for reward of eternal life, for selfish motive.

    Scripture says love will grow cold,  People will be lovers of themselves,

    “For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. ~ Romans 16

    “That we [henceforth] be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, [and] cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive ~ Eph 4

    #219627
    shimmer
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 09 2010,03:25)
    Just Askin,

    You wrote about Nick Hassan:

    Quote

    I asked several times what the matter was but all i got was “God is spirit” – does that sound like a sane person?

    Sounds completely sane to me since Jesus did the same thing.   For example , a woman asks about liquid water and Jesus switches the subject to  Spiritual water.

    It is true Nick wrote more like a Chinese writer of fortune cookie fortunes and thus in mysticisms.  That just gives you a mystery to solve with the mind God created for you to use and guided by God's Spirit. :cool:


    I agree Kerwin, Hope your feeling better too,

    #219631
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (shimmer @ Oct. 12 2010,23:16)
    I believe the most damaging doctrine is the 'eternal suffering and torment of hell' because that is what changes the heart.

    People do good things to avoid going to hell. Or for reward of eternal life, for selfish motive.

    Scripture says love will grow cold,  People will be lovers of themselves,

    “For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple. ~ Romans 16

    “That we [henceforth] be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, [and] cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive ~ Eph 4


    Shimmer ……….Amen to that post Sis.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene

    #219643
    Baker
    Participant

    Hi Shimmer!  I read some of the post made here.  I don't remember if I ever did, so I will say this.  The trinity doctrine is not of God, but of a man called Quintus Septimus Florence Tertullin.  He was born by pagan parents in AD 155.  it is said that the trinity is his best achievement made to Christianity…. It was Constantine who made it law.  Sctiptures like

    Deu 4:35   Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he [is] God; [there is] none else beside him.

    and

    Deu 6:4 ¶ Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God [is] one LORD:  

    and

    1Cr 8:4   As concerning therefore the eating of those things that are offered in sacrifice unto idols, we know that an idol [is] nothing in the world, and that [there is] none other God but one.  

    and

    Eph 4:4   [There is] one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;  

    Eph 4:5   One Lord, one faith, one baptism,  

    Eph 4:6   One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all.  
    and
    Jhn 14:28   Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come [again] unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.  

    It matters much these Scriptures Prove the trinity wrong and in

    Mat 15:9   But in vain they do worship me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men.  

    Since the trinity is a man made doctrine it is very wrong and sorry to say so many believe in it….AllScrioptures are taken from the Blue Letter Bible found on the Internet….

    Peace and Love Irene

    #219649
    JustAskin
    Participant

    Irene,
    It is true that Trinity is false. That has been proved in this forum, even if WJ, et al, continue in vain to spout it.

    When a man does exercise, he must have a 'resistance' to test himself against, whether it be Weights, Springs, some Effort against Time, some Effort against Distance, etc. Everytime he overcomes the force he increases in strength, energy and power.

    So it is with Scriptures and false truth.

    We need the likes of WJ, Martian, LU, CO, Edj, Gene, SF and Mikeboll, against whom to exercise Scriptural muscle.

    What else…? We would just end up agreeing with each other basic points of Scriptures and never realise the limitation of our knowledge.

    This does not mean being lenient with false teachings. Who can grow if they give in to the pain, the 'burn'. That point is the threshold to the door of increased knowledge.

    The search for Scriptural truth against false doctrine requires mental effort, like exercising muscle, expanding the chest for deeper breathing, increased oxygen in the blood leading to higher 'fuel' for the body…greater energy output from the same latent energy source.

    That latent energy source is the 'Scriptures'. We get more out of the Scriptures every time we force ourselves to get past the 'burn' point of 'superficial' reading, aligned with the revelation from God's Holy Spirit, the Spiritual 'Expert Trainer and Guide'.

    #219650
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 13 2010,05:56)
    Irene,

    So it is with Scriptures and false truth.

    We need the likes of WJ, Martian, LU, CO, Edj, Gene, SF and Mikeboll, against whom to exercise Scriptural muscle.


    Hi JustAskin,

    Must you always place yourself up as the judge? (Rom.2:3)

    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #219651
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 13 2010,05:56)
    Irene,

    What else…? We would just end up agreeing with each other basic points of Scriptures and never realise the limitation of our knowledge.


    Hi JustAskin,

    At least you got this part correct.
    Without us 'you' would not come to perfection! (Heb.11:40)

    Eph.4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge
    of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the
    fullness of Christ: That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and
    carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness,
    whereby they lie in wait to deceive; But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in
    all things, which is the head, even Christ: From whom the whole body fitly joined together and
    compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure
    of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love. YHVH(63)+Love(54)=117!

    Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17)
    117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
    Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Eccl. 9:12-16)

    #219653
    JustAskin
    Participant

    Edj,
    I don't think this is a new revelation for JustAskin. It is just a new iteration.

    I have said it many times before. How did you miss them. I have posted this concerning WJ and the desperarians.

    Perhaps the Amnesia in this forum is more invasive than I imagined.

    #219655
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 13 2010,06:38)
    Edj,
    I don't think this is a new revelation for JustAskin. It is just a new iteration.

    I have said it many times before. How did you miss them. I have posted this concerning WJ and the desperarians.

    Perhaps the Amnesia in this forum is more invasive than I imagined.


    Hi JustAskin,

    I don't recall you ever saying any of us were necessary for 'your' perfection?
    If you have, please re-Post it for all to see; OK?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #219656
    SimplyForgiven
    Participant

    Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 13 2010,00:38)
    Edj,
    I don't think this is a new revelation for JustAskin. It is just a new iteration.

    I have said it many times before. How did you miss them. I have posted this concerning WJ and the desperarians.

    Perhaps the Amnesia in this forum is more invasive than I imagined.


    Oh gosh haha that was funnny…
    Amnesia! haha…

    I been saying that for awhile

    #219659
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 13 2010,06:45)

    Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 13 2010,06:38)
    Edj,
    I don't think this is a new revelation for JustAskin. It is just a new iteration.

    I have said it many times before. How did you miss them. I have posted this concerning WJ and the desperarians.

    Perhaps the Amnesia in this forum is more invasive than I imagined.


    Hi JustAskin,

    I don't recall you ever saying any of us were necessary for 'your' perfection?
    If you have, please re-Post it for all to see; OK?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Hi SF,

    Do you remember JustAskin saying anything of the sort?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #219660
    JustAskin
    Participant

    Edj,
    Perhaps you need to read closer and recall clearer.

    It is true that I did not say 'for My perfection' but I did say 'for our REFINEMENT', is that the same thing?

    #219665
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 13 2010,07:00)
    Edj,
    Perhaps you need to read closer and recall clearer.

    It is true that I did not say 'for My perfection' but I did say 'for our REFINEMENT', is that the same thing?


    Hi JustAskin,

    OK, I must of missed it; please re-Post where you said: “for our REFINEMENT”. (1Thess.5:21)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #219673
    Baker
    Participant

    Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 13 2010,05:56)
    Irene,
    It is true that Trinity is false. That has been proved in this forum, even if WJ, et al, continue in vain to spout it.

    When a man does exercise, he must have a 'resistance' to test himself against, whether it be Weights, Springs, some Effort against Time, some Effort against Distance, etc. Everytime he overcomes the force he increases in strength, energy and power.

    So it is with Scriptures and false truth.

    We need the likes of WJ, Martian, LU, CO, Edj, Gene, SF and Mikeboll, against whom to exercise Scriptural muscle.

    What else…? We would just end up agreeing with each other basic points of Scriptures and never realise the limitation of our knowledge.

    This does not mean being lenient with false teachings. Who can grow if they give in to the pain, the 'burn'. That point is the threshold to the door of increased knowledge.

    The search for Scriptural truth against false doctrine requires mental effort, like exercising muscle, expanding the chest for deeper breathing, increased oxygen in the blood leading to higher 'fuel' for the body…greater energy output from the same latent energy source.

    That latent energy source is the 'Scriptures'. We get more out of the Scriptures every time we force ourselves to get past the 'burn' point of 'superficial' reading, aligned with the revelation from God's Holy Spirit, the Spiritual 'Expert Trainer and Guide'.


    JustAskin!  This tread is about false teaching, and not only WJ, but also whoever comes on here as a guest will see it, so to be so blunt in judging me, who gave Scriptures, is uncalled for.  You are not judging me in a sense, you are judging those Scriptures and the doctrine of the trinity, and that my friend is redicoulous to say the least.  Everything else you wrote is also redicoulous and has nothing to do with this tread. We as Humans will never be perfect… not in this physical body, and not yet, we will have to wait for Christ returns…………… Irene

    #219674
    shimmer
    Participant

    Hi.

    First we have the ten commandments, and circumcision of the flesh, Jesus summed up the commandments into love of God and love of neighbour, and circumcision became of the heart,

    Scripture warned that false doctrines would creep in to decieve people and that love would grow cold,  love of God and love of neighbour. People would become lovers of themselves rather than lovers of God.

    The punishment of sin is death the gift of God is eternal life. People today believe their neighbours – who they are told to love as self – will be ETERNALLY trapped in misery never able to get out  – and though they believe this and will go to great lengths to defend it, they are too happy, praising God that they are saved but are they running around desperatly trying to save every last person, or do they shop, renovate, eat, sleep, entertain friends, watch TV, work, holiday ?  

    Trinity maybe causes people to not focus on God the Father as Jesus told us to, to love God.. his Father and our Father.. with all of our hearts and minds and souls. The number one commandment.

    I see that now, both commandments.

    So teaching the truth is important,

    #219675
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Baker @ Oct. 13 2010,10:12)

    JustAskin!  This tread is about false teaching, and not only WJ, but also whoever comes on here as a guest will see it, so to be so blunt in judging me, who gave Scriptures, is uncalled for.  You are not judging me in a sense, you are judging those Scriptures and the doctrine of the trinity, and that my friend is redicoulous to say the least.  Everything else you wrote is also redicoulous and has nothing to do with this tread.  We as Humans will never be perfect… not in  this physical body, and not yet, we will have to wait for Christ returns…………… Irene


    Hi Irene,

    2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying
    the power (of perfection) thereof: from such turn away.
    Jesus returned (in spirit form) on Pentecost! (Click Here)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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