Does god procreate?

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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 06 2010,02:45)

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 05 2010,10:23)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 06 2010,01:53)

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 05 2010,09:48)

HI WJ,

Are you lying? I have not added YHwH anywhere!

You know what I meant.

Ed get a life and go talk to someone else. This is why I don't want to have discourse with you ED. You end up slinging mud!

Hi WJ,

I only insist on Biblical accuracy!
Mud is a byproduct of adding water to dirt.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

And it seems like every chance you get you want to sling it at someone.

Hi WJ,

I bring the water and the dirt must come off!
Eph.5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse
it with the washing of water by “The Word”,
1Ths.4:7-8 For God hath not called us unto uncleanness,
but unto holiness. He therefore that despiseth, despiseth
not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his HolySpirit.

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH! (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

October 5, 2010 at 7:03 pm#218873

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WJ,
Did I post my post to you, or to the forum.

Did I ask for a response from you.

Do you know English? I made Statements. Respond if you like…don't respond if you don't want. I told you this before, remember….oh, of course not. Forgetting is a part of your make up. How else could you have been reading Scripture for over ten years and still not understand basic level aspects, namely that God Almighty, who gave us his name and even said, 'That is my name for everlasting', yet you, WJ, says God Almighty does not have a name.

WJ, you are so brazen as to call God a liar.

Also, how often have you seen JustAskin posting and REQUIRING an answer? Not often.

JustAskin posts to disceminate Truth. It is up to, or down to, the receiver of that truth what they do with it…accept it, ignore, enhance it, refute it…'As you like it', as Shakespeare wrote.

Fact, WJ, you dare not answer me, not that one was even requested, because you cannot refute a single word of my post.

Therefore, you swish around pretending that you won't answer because of the adhominen that YOU perceive, but others see as obvious causal rebuffs.

WJ, remove the adhominen yourself and be a good boy and answer…oohh, see, I made a request!

October 5, 2010 at 8:10 pm#218888

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Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 05 2010,14:03)

Forgetting is a part of your make up. How else could you have been reading Scripture for over ten years and still not understand basic level aspects, namely that God Almighty, who gave us his name and even said, 'That is my name for everlasting', yet you, WJ, says God Almighty does not have a name.

Hi All

This is a lie. I ask that JA present the evidence since he is a moderator.

Where is the evidence I have ever said “God Almighty does not have a name”.

I have repeatedly said “we do not know the exact pronuciation of the name YHWH or YHVH and not that he didn't have a name.

Present your evidence or admit that you bear false witness.

October 5, 2010 at 8:20 pm#218892

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WJ,
Now you have been caught out and brought to task you are swallowing your own spit.

How easy it is to open you up and show your deceitful trinitarian innards.

WJ, remember that we had a debate about this.

Oh, of course, you can't remember can you…

Even if you said 'Don't know how to pronounce his name' you are still denying the name of 'my God' who should also be 'your God'.

You like spinning WJ. Spin on that.

October 5, 2010 at 8:31 pm#218893

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WJ,
What is the name of Almighty God?

October 5, 2010 at 8:32 pm#218894

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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 06 2010,07:10)

Hi All

I have repeatedly said “we do not know the exact pronuciation of the name YHWH or YHVH and not that he didn't have a name.

Hi WJ,

You got a mouse in your pocket?

YHVH is God's Name (יהוה) translated into English; as the Hebrew lacks vowels.

[יהוה] GOD’s Name [י] Yod [ה] Ha [ו] Vav [ה] Hey is pronounced YÄ-hä-vā & [יה] YÄ

“GOD's Name” (יהוה) is spoken as YÄ-hä-vā: where ä sounds like that
of the word “ah” and the other ā sounds like the vowel in the word “hay”.

GOD’s most sacred Holy Name [יהוה] was given to us directly from the Hebrew language.
Correctly translating Hebrew into other languages can be difficult however. Some basic
linguistical rules need to be considered when translating Hebrew texts. These include a lack
of spacing between words, as a general rule has no written vowels and the basic direction
in which Hebrew is written (opposite: from right to left). Hebrew word spacing is a modern
advent that distinguishes one word from the next, aiding both translators and multi-linguists
alike. Unwritten “implied” vowel sounds are a concern because, correct pronunciations of
Hebrew words are at risk. This point is made because the correct pronunciation was thought
to be lost, which led only to translators’ interpretations.

GOD’s Name (יהוה) transliterates directly into English as YHVH because the Hebrew alphabet
lacks vowels. Hebrew has No [W] sound, No [J] sound and the symbol ש is pronounced “Sh”.

October 5, 2010 at 9:25 pm#218899

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Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 05 2010,15:20)

WJ,
Now you have been caught out and brought to task you are swallowing your own spit.

How easy it is to open you up and show your deceitful trinitarian innards.

WJ, remember that we had a debate about this.

Oh, of course, you can't remember can you…

Even if you said 'Don't know how to pronounce his name' you are still denying the name of 'my God' who should also be 'your God'.

You like spinning WJ. Spin on that.

Are you going to present evidence where I have ever said…”God Almighty does not have a name” or not.

If you don't know how to pronouce it then what you have is 4 Consanants called the Tetragamation which and without vowels there is no pronunciation.

Go and learn what that means JA. Even the Hebrews stopped pronouncing his name and left the Hebrew vowels out for fear of blaspheming.

Show me JA where Jesus pronounced the name of his Father or filled in the blanks Y_H_V_H or where the Apostles or Forefathers ever pronounced it.

You lie against me. Saying not knowing how to pronounce the name YHWH or YHVH is not spin but fact. Saying that I ever said God did not have a name is a lie!

Show your proof.

October 5, 2010 at 9:29 pm#218901

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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 05 2010,15:10)

Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 05 2010,14:03)

Hi All

This is a lie. I ask that JA present the evidence since he is a moderator.

Where is the evidence I have ever said “God Almighty does not have a name”.

I have repeatedly said “we do not know the exact pronuciation of the name YHWH or YHVH and not that he didn't have a name.

Present your evidence or admit that you bear false witness.

BTW, I will report your lie to t8, unless you retract the statement that I said “God Almighty does not have a name”.

October 5, 2010 at 9:30 pm#218903

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WJ,What is the English 'TRANSLATION' of the Tetragramaton, YHVH? Is it not 'I AM' because God said to Moses, 'I Am what I Am, therefore you should say unto them, ''I AM'' has sent you'.Does this sound like God telling us a name that HE KNOWS that we were not going to pronounce?Certainly not. He gave His name, A name so simple, so wonderful, so beautifully descriptive, it is unbelievable that anyone can say that they can't say it.Jesus' name is not 'Jesus'. We translate it into English as that. Another language translates it 'Yesus', 'Yashua', 'Yeshua'…etc. Yet we don't feel we shouldn't say it in our own language.”I AM” can be translated into ANY and Every language so there is never any reason not to use it except to be careful not to blaspheme by it.WJ, what is the name of God Almighty? Is it not 'YHVH'?WJ, what is the name of the Son of God? Is it not Jesus, Jesus Christ?Then is it not clear that there are two distinct persons?WJ, what is the name of the Holy Spirit?…WJ, did Jesus die on the Cross and give up his Spirit to God, 'Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit'.Yes, he did. But if Jesus is an integral part of the Godhead, how could he die? How can God die?.And if he died as a Man, then he was not God, Jesus was not God, therefore there was no Trinity….And if Jesus was 'created', or even by Mikeboll, procreated, then hewas not God. The Scriptures says he will BECOME…not that he is or was…but that he will become…One cannot 'become' God, cannot become, Almighty God, and in any case, there can be only One Almighty God, and that is YHVH, the Most High God.WJ,Is that 'adhominen free' enough for you.What excuse will you crank in this time?

October 5, 2010 at 9:31 pm#218904

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WJ,
Report away please.

Oh, I know…can you prove that I won't retract my statement. AND, can you prove that you didn't say it?

October 5, 2010 at 9:42 pm#218908

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Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 05 2010,15:32)

Although there is no firm consensus on the actual pronouncement or spelling of the Tetragrammaton YHVH, there are several representations or transliterations in use by theologians and Bible students. Some of the more popular forms are YAHVEH, YAHWEH and Jehovah. A comprehensive list of the various usages that abound, are presented further down on this page.

Ed you deny the fact that the scribes left out the vowels and the correct pronunciation was lost.

THE TETRAGRAMMATON

The Sacred Name appears in the Hebrew Scriptures as four Hebrew letters Yud, hey, vav, hey, which is closest represented by the letters YHVH. This format is known as the Tetragrammaton. According to Jewish tradition it is regarded as 'not to be uttered' in order never to profane it in any way. In Judaism it is therefore pronounced as 'Adonai', meaning 'Lord'. Notwithstanding this prohibition, the Sacred Name is acknowledged in its usage as part of the names of many Biblical characters, as referred to above – and as any Bible concordance or reference book will provide.

Because of these prohibitions, translations of the original Hebrew scrolls have, throughout the ages, replaced the Tetragrammaton with 'the LORD' (in capital letters) and the Sacred Name, in so doing, became 'lost' for many centuries.

Since the sixties, there has been a movement in modern theology and especially amongst sincere Bible students throughout the world, to restore the newly 'rediscovered' Sacred Hebrew Name. Sacred Name publications which chose to restore the Sacred Name in the almost 7000 instances in the Bible, appeared one after the other and the 'Sacred Name Movement', towards the nineties and the turn of the millennium, became a flood which today literally engulfs the world…

For the purposes of this Web Site and out of respect for the Sacredness and sanctification of the Name, we will print the Tetragammaton form YHVH throughout the studies of this Web Site and leave the reader free to either substitute it or pronounce it in the way they find comfortable. Source

October 5, 2010 at 9:52 pm#218913

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Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 05 2010,16:31)

WJ,
Report away please.

Oh, I know…can you prove that I won't retract my statement. AND, can you prove that you didn't say it?

Wow, what a moderator you are! The burden of proof is on you for you are the one that made the accusation.

October 5, 2010 at 10:10 pm#218914

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Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 06 2010,08:30)

WJ,

What is the English 'TRANSLATION' of the Tetragramaton, YHVH? Is it not 'I AM' because God said to Moses, 'I Am what I Am, therefore you should say unto them, ''I AM'' has sent you'.Does this sound like God telling us a name that HE KNOWS that we were not going to pronounce?Certainly not. He gave His name, A name so simple, so wonderful, so beautifully descriptive, it is unbelievable that anyone can say that they can't say it.

“I AM” can be translated into ANY and Every language…

Hi JustAskin,

MAYBE, EXCEPT HEBREW!
Will you heed this time as well?
Get your FACTS Straight; Just Askin!
I agree WJ: he can be included in your ‘we’!

יד(14). וַיֹּאמֶר אֱ־לֹהִים אֶל מֹשֶׁה אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה וַיֹּאמֶר כֹּה תֹאמַר לִבְנֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל אֶהְיֶה שְׁלָחַנִי אֲלֵיכֶם:
Exodus 3:14 And God said to Moses, “Ehyeh asher ehyeh (I will be what I will be),”
and He said, “So shall you say to the children of Israel, 'Ehyeh (I will be) has sent me to you.'”

October 5, 2010 at 10:24 pm#218915

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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Oct. 06 2010,08:42)

Ed you deny the fact that the scribes left out the vowels and the correct pronunciation was lost.

Hi WJ,

You're exhibiting the mentality of an Atheist!
Nobody can know more than WJ or an Atheist!

There is (Atheist's say) no god?
Nobody knows (WJ says) his name?

YHVH is God's Name (יהוה) translated into English; as the Hebrew lacks vowels.

[יהוה] GOD’s Name [י] Yod [ה] Ha [ו] Vav [ה] Hey is pronounced YÄ-hä-vā & [יה] YÄ

“GOD's Name” (יהוה) is spoken as YÄ-hä-vā: where ä sounds like that
of the word “ah” and the other ā sounds like the vowel in the word “hay”.

Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

October 5, 2010 at 10:27 pm#218917

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Does anyone stick to a flow in this forum.

WJ has just skated around responding to a trinity killer blow.

And he says i'm good!

October 5, 2010 at 10:37 pm#218918

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Edj,
I don't give two hoots about what you are saying. I acknowledge 'YHVH' but nothing more.

'I AM' is a wonderful, beautiful, all encompassing name that perfectly says who God Almighty is.

I am totally flummoxed why no one else can see the beauty of 'I AM', 'I Just Am', 'I Was, I am, I Always will be', God Amighty never changes, this is 'I Am'.

Who else can say that? No one.

Now how does 'I will be' sound, Edj? Like some yet to be, like God isn't, yet, eh?

And WJ, is Jesus the 'I Am'?

October 5, 2010 at 11:03 pm#218920

terraricca

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Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 06 2010,16:27)

Does anyone stick to a flow in this forum.

WJ has just skated around responding to a trinity killer blow.

And he says i'm good!

i think i told you, what WJ is and we as Christians will never win any contest with unbelievers.

it will always end up in frustration.

this is my experience

Pierre

October 5, 2010 at 11:40 pm#218924

shimmer

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Quote (JustAskin @ Oct. 06 2010,10:37)

Edj,
I don't give two hoots about what you are saying. I acknowledge 'YHVH' but nothing more.

'I AM' is a wonderful, beautiful, all encompassing name that perfectly says who God Almighty is.

I am totally flummoxed why no one else can see the beauty of 'I AM', 'I Just Am', 'I Was, I am, I Always will be', God Amighty never changes, this is 'I Am'.

Who else can say that? No one.

JA, well said, I agree completly with that,

October 6, 2010 at 12:36 am#218927