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It’s not loving to command genocide no matter what. The priests and scribes who wrote those stories didn’t see their god as all powerful and loving.
David,
Proverbs 13:24
He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.Proverbs 13:24New King James Version (NKJV)
He who spares his rod hates his son,
But he who loves him disciplines him promptly.It could be translated more literally but many people would go by the older translation that is in the AV of the KJV. Even literally and separated from every other passage of Scripture it tells believers no to go light on using a rod to discipline their child but instead to chasten them in a timely fashion. That may be offensive to our culture but their is no reason to conclude our culture is any more righteous than any other one after all our cultures holds that it is a righteous action to arbitrarily kill children in their mother’s womb. In that they are no better, and perhaps worse, than an ostrich.
AndrewAD,
What I am hearing is that you do not believe that all Scripture is God breathed because you find some passages offensive to your cultural values.
You cannot have two masters.
Kerwin, you don’t claim to be Jewish or Catholic yet you worship the books they gave.You have two masters yet serve neither! You worship the letter that killeth!
Hi kerwin
That may be offensive to our culture but their is no reason to conclude our culture is any more righteous than any other one after all our cultures holds that it is a righteous action to arbitrarily kill children in their mother’s womb. In that they are no better, and perhaps worse, than an ostrich.
After studying human sacrifice, I’ve had this discussion with people more than once.
While abortion isn’t new, it’s easier and acceptable. People have had abortion methods for thousands of years.
One thing that has changed is one by one, cultures and civilizations have abandoned and criminalized human sacrifice, particularly burning babies alive.At a time when the thought of taking your baby and putting it in fire was acceptable, it seems easy to imderstand that beating a son wth a rod would be more than tolerated.
Are you okay with beating children, your children, with rods?
As for genocide, it’s probable that all wars in the past were genocidal in nature. If the estimated war death rate of tribal societies continued into our time, there would have been 2 billion dead in the last century. Not 100 million.
It was the simple: get them before they get you, philosophy. And don’t leave any of them alive who may retaliate.
As the leviathan emerged, a monopoly on force that could be a neutral third party, it became less and less necessary to begin these tribal feuds and wars as a measure of your own safety.
Get to know God and why it was loving to command genocide.
It wasn’t truly genocide if they saved all the virgins or young women for themselves.
If the thing was, God was destroying these people because they were evil, then were the young women not evil somehow while the young boys were? Or, was this just a way to reduce the chance of violence against themselves by eliminating the threat? It’s this whole keeping the virgins thing that people have issues with.
Hi Kerwin,
“(1)There were giants in the earth in those days; (2)and also after that” (Gen 6:4)
1) Pre-flood
2) Post-floodGod said to wipe them out for a reason Kerwin, and all the livestock too, God wanted no D.N.A. manipulation.
“Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations (=no alien D.N.A. in his genealogy),
and Noah walked with God. And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.” (Gen 6:9-10)_______________
God bless
Ed J“And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,
and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank,
they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire
and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.”
(Luke 17:26-30)Hi BD,
1) “No”
2) As an act of revenge, “No”Then you believe God ordered immoral acts to be done in His name, is that okay with you?
so what about the other times when God destroyed whole towns or cities or ordered people and their children to be killed? This is why I keep telling you guys you all claim to be God’s children and yet you are not safe from His wrath and those people got killed and they were his creations nothing more and nothing less, The Jews call themselves God’s children if they were His children do you think God would allow them to be burnt in Ovens but God already told you people Jeremiah 18:6 He said, “Can I not do with you, Israel, as this potter does?” declares the LORD. “Like clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, Israel.
7″At one moment I might speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom to uproot, to pull down, or to destroy it;…This is GOD not your daddy, not to say you cannot have a close relationship such as a Father and child but make no mistake God is not a respecter of persons
Hi david,
Have you emptied out all of your bile against God and His ways?
Changing from a catholic culture to a JW one has not given you anything positive it seems
Like changing from a black suit to a brown one.
Nick,
If that is the case with David then surely you should have some understanding and sympathy for him.Perhaps he just needs to go home to the loving arms of the Holy Mother.
Hi BD,
1) “No”
2) As an act of revenge, “No”Then you believe God ordered immoral acts to be done in His name, is that okay with you?
Hi BD, apparently you do not read my posts
God was purging alien D.N.A. manipulation from the populous. Here is what I said to Kerwin…
“(1)There were giants in the earth in those days; (2)and also after that” (Gen 6:4)
1) Pre-flood
2) Post-floodGod said to wipe them out for a reason Kerwin, and all the livestock too, God wanted no D.N.A. manipulation.
“Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations (=no alien D.N.A. in his genealogy),
and Noah walked with God. And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.” (Gen 6:9-10)_______________
God bless
Ed JHi t8,
This site has become for some a vehicle for attacking God and His works.
Why is that tolerated?
Hi BD,
God does not sanction people to
‘rape’ ‘pillage’ and ‘plunder’ non-muslims,
multiply wives, and abduct children for sex slavery.islam is an abomination to God. If you get your morality from
the quran you get your morality from the toilet. (ref. Rom.8:7-8)_______________
God bless
ED JDavid,
I was whipped as a child when I was disobedient and I saw no harm to that.
I was also abused so I know there is a difference though by the grace of God I received no harm from that.
Only fools do not understand the difference.
I admit that fools exist.
Using a rod on a child is not always wrong.
I have already shown you a study that concluded just that.
David,
Are you claiming that it is more righteous to murder a more developed child than a less developed one?
Your words implied that.
I agree that murder has been around a long time and now instead of killing disabled children by tossing them out to let the elements and wild animals do the trick we kill them in their mother’s womb.
We then act like hypocrites and brag about how much more enlightened than the tax collector we are.
Ed J,
God said it was because of their behavior and did not mention DNA.
The Hebrew people did not wipe all of them out but instead intermarried with them and in doing so caused a whole lot of grief throughout the centuries of the First Temple.
They did better during the second period but even then the Pharisees and Sadducee sects came to be.
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