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Nick,
It is not to do with IMMEDIATE CAUSE but susceptibility
Angels are susceptible to death and Satan and his angels will perish when they are thrown into the fires of Gehenna.
On the other hand Adam and Ever were not susceptible to death before they sinned as they did not earn the wages of sin.
It is the wages of sin that make one susceptible to death but Jesus died despite not earning those wages and in doing so became salvation for fallen humankind.
Nick,
Hi KW,
Do you find God’s creation flawed?The present world is not God’s creation it is the effect of humankind’s sin. God is not responsible for the condition of this world. We are. We chose sin as our God. Those that believe will escape this world.
God subjected this world to corruption as a result of humanities sin which is why he told us from you came and to dust you will return. That is his judgement.
Nick,
Hi KW,
So Adam was not susceptible to death till he died?Adam was not susceptible to death until he sinned.
Nick…….Everything that exist now and in the future is susceptible to perishing, tell us one thing that is not susceptible. Are angels, the devil, some future created thing, you have not one scripture that say something is not now or in the future not susceptible to perishing, except God himself.God who brought all things into existence can also take all things out of existence to, any time he chooses to. Your word games do not work.
Even Jesus did not say he could never be destroyed even now that applies to all things, that’s part of knowing the fear or respect of God is to understanding we live by his grace, both now and in the future. Your assumption you are going to recieve a body that can live forever by it self is false. All life form will always be subject to him who created them, now and forever.
The only thing this body does is change to a state of continual regeneration brought about by the tree of life . Had you believed and understood what Paul said , you would understand the “it” he described was this present body that was going to be regenerated through a spritual event taking Place in “it” not some other body but this body. Jesus still has the very body he was resurrected with and will return with that body, the only thing that body did was to come to live forever through the spirit of the living God going into it and raising it from the dead. The same applies to our bodies.
Peace and love to you and yours……………….gene
Hi GB,
The leaves of the tree of life are for healing of the nations.
If the Spirit raises your mortal body will you not then be changed?
Nick,
Is that written?
It is written that death entered the world through Adam though it came by his sin in Romans 5:12.
2 Peter 1:4 literally speaks of corruption that is in the world through lust though I am not sure it should be interpreted literal.
Hi KW,
Why paper over the cracks in your theories?
There is no suggestion God changed the nature of man’s body after the fall.
Hi GB,
So you deny that the saved will be given an imperishable body as you think that is impossible?
Your argument is not with us.
Nick,
Hi KW,
Why paper over the cracks in your theories?
There is no suggestion God changed the nature of man’s body after the fall.
So the change from a body that could not dies to one that could is not evidence that God changed the body?
Hi,
Jesus Christ told some folks in Jn 8 that where he was going they could not come and explained that he was from above and they were from below. Of course it was the Spirit speaking but it reinforces that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdomHi,
Jesus Christ will ascend to where the Word came from.
Then he will return in glory for his brothers and to establish his earthly kingdomNick,
Hi KW,
A changed and imperishable body is the promise.
But you remain mortal?Why do you avoid answering questions?
You don’t avoid answering quite as many points but avoid them sometimes as well.
It really interferes with good communication.
Are you that insecure in what you believe?
Nick,
Once again.
So according to your understanding the change from a body that could not die to one that could is not evidence that God changed the body?
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