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Hi Miia,
Personally, I am leary of putting that vaccine into my body, I’m leary of the whole China Virus agenda. My husband got COVID a month ago and thankfully I did not although I waited on him several times a day for about 10 days. He’s fine now but he was pretty weak and had a fever for about 24 hours and developed a mild cough.
I can see how others are offended by those who do not take the vaccine. I don’t want to be an offense to others but at the same time, I want to not be coerced into taking something into my body that I don’t feel comfortable doing. If I had to take it for a job, I might since many that I know have not had any problems with it. I don’t think that people who have had the virus need to take the vaccine.
Just some of my thoughts,
LU
What is this new idea of Jesus being Vegan? I like Vegan diets but I consume meat or fish once a week.
Hi Adam.
I don’t know about Jesus being ‘vegan’ but I personally believe He was a pescatarian (person who does not eat meat but does eat fish, dairy, eggs etc.).
Hi Miia,
Personally, I am leary of putting that vaccine into my body, I’m leary of the whole China Virus agenda. My husband got COVID a month ago and thankfully I did not although I waited on him several times a day for about 10 days. He’s fine now but he was pretty weak and had a fever for about 24 hours and developed a mild cough.
I can see how others are offended by those who do not take the vaccine. I don’t want to be an offense to others but at the same time, I want to not be coerced into taking something into my body that I don’t feel comfortable doing. If I had to take it for a job, I might since many that I know have not had any problems with it. I don’t think that people who have had the virus need to take the vaccine.
Just some of my thoughts,
LU
Hi LU.
Wow, sorry to hear about your husband, glad he is ok and amazing you did not catch it.
I think I would be the same. My kids get sick and although I look after them I don’t catch things (I also work at a school part-time).
So glad you are weary on taking the vaccine. IMO not enough time, too rushed.
I follow a Christian pastor called Emmanuel Makandiwa who has an interesting insight.
Hi Adam.
I don’t know about Jesus being ‘vegan’ but I personally believe He was a pescatarian (person who does not eat meat but does eat fish, dairy, eggs etc.).
Hi Sis Karmarie, thanks for your reply to my query. What difference does it make if Jesus was a meat eater or pescatarian as quoted by you? If Jesus was a Jew he certainly would had been a meat eater (Kosher). I don’t think our food habits need to be changed for any religion.
Hi Adam.
Adam: “I don’t think our food habits need to be changed for any religion.”
Me:
1. God is not a religion.
2. Theosis is the goal of becoming closer to God, which involves getting to know God personally, including what God requires of us, and learning what Jesus did (the perfect, sinless son).The New Testament mentions dietary requirements. For example Peter requested the newly converted Gentiles refrain from eating blood and food sacrificed to idols.
Adam: “What difference does it make”.
Me: Because Jesus is referred to as the lamb of God, and because Jesus’ sacrifice brought an end to animal sacrifices, because God loves all animals (even a bird does not die without God’s knowledge. Matthew 10.29), and because Jesus made important statements such as ‘Go and learn what this means. I require mercy not sacrifice. If you had known what that meant you would not have condemned the innocent!’ (Matthew 12:7), then we should go and learn what that means.
Adam: If Jesus was a Jew he certainly would had been a meat eater
Me: No. There were vegetarian Jews. Jesus was a Nazorean (from Nazareth). Nazoreans mainly ate plants, fruit, bread, eggs, milk, fish. John the Baptist lived on locusts and honey!
Sorry about the delay I couldn’t post with my old account (old email account made it invalid). So opened this one up.
Adam: “What difference does it make”.
Me: Because Jesus is referred to as the lamb of God, and because Jesus’ sacrifice brought an end to animal sacrifices, because God loves all animals (even a bird does not die without God’s knowledge. Matthew 10.29), and because Jesus made important statements such as ‘Go and learn what this means. I require mercy not sacrifice. If you had known what that meant you would not have condemned the innocent!’ (Matthew 12:7), then we should go and learn what that means.
Adam: If Jesus was a Jew he certainly would had been a meat eater
Me: No. There were vegetarian Jews. Jesus was a Nazorean (from Nazareth). Nazoreans mainly ate plants, fruit, bread, eggs, milk, fish. John the Baptist lived on locusts and honey!
Hi Sis Karmarie, thanks for your reply to my post. In fact I have become a Skeptic these days. So I see things differently now. Here is what I found on internet;
Christian vegetarianism has not been a common dietary choice throughout Church history. Some have argued, however, that “there is a long-standing tradition of vegetarianism in Christian history.” The two most prominent forms are a spirituality-based vegetarianism (where vegetarianism is adopted as an ascetic practice, or as a way of opposing the sin of gluttony, in the hope it will draw the person to God) and an ethically-based vegetarianism (where it is adopted for ethical reasons; for example, those to do with the treatment of non-human animals). Christian ethical vegetarianism (or veganism) usually carries with it a commitment to the normative claim that (at least some) Christians should be vegetarians. For this reason, Christian ethical vegetarians often give a scriptural justification for their position. While there are biblical passages which provide support for ethical vegetarianism, there are also passages which seem to imply that eating animals is morally permissible.
One of the most important passages for Christian vegetarians is the first creation narrative in the book of Genesis. After creating humans, God addresses them in chapter 1, verses 29–30 as follows:
God said, “See, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food. And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food”. And it was so.
In this passage, God prescribes a plant-based diet not just for humans, but for all land-based non-human animals. Christian vegetarians and vegans point out that it was this creation—where all creatures ate plants—that God then declared “very good” in verse 31. Moreover, that God’s initial creation was a vegan creation suggests that this is how God intended all his creatures to live. This idea—that God intended for all his creatures to eat plants—is sometimes further supported by noting that the vision of the Peaceable Kingdom found in Isaiah suggests that God will one day restore creation to such a state. Isaiah 11:6–9 reads:
The wolf shall live with the lamb, the leopard shall lie down with the kid, the calf and the lion and the fatling together, and a little child shall lead them. The cow and the bear shall graze, their young shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. The nursing child shall play over the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put its hand on the adder’s den. They will not hurt or destroy on all my holy mountain; for the earth will be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea.
Some Christian vegetarians have suggested that this eschatological view provides reasons to adopt a vegetarian or vegan diet here and now. Moreover, the point has often been made that the dominion which humans are given over the non-human animals in Genesis 1:26–28 must be understood in light of Genesis 1:29–30 which decrees a plant-based diet for all creatures. Genesis 1:26–28 has, it is acknowledged by Christian vegetarians, often been used to justify the eating of animals. But this is a mistake, they suggest. Once it is recognized that humans are given dominion over creation, and that in the very next verse humans are prescribed a plant-based diet, it will become apparent that dominion should be understood in terms of stewardship or servant-hood: humans are called to rule creation in the sense of caring for it and seeking its flourishing, just as a good Sovereign would seek the flourishing of his or her realm.
Hope this will help you.
Hi Sis Karmarie, thanks for your reply to my post. In fact I have become a Skeptic these days. So I see things differently now.
Hi Adam.
What do you mean by ‘skeptic’?
Hi Adam.
What do you mean by ‘skeptic’?
Hi Sis Karmarie, thanks for your appreciation on my post. A skeptic is a person who doesn’t believe something is true unless he sees the evidence. I have become more of a Skeptic than a believer.
Hi bro Adam.
I went through a stage of being a skeptic when Christians were saying unbelievers will be in hell for eternity. In anger I asked God if it was true (after weeks of anger), and that if it was i would NOT be worshipping him! God showed me that day in prayer to “trust him”. And that God is ..love.. Before he showed me this I knew that we inherited our love from somewhere, and I knew THAT God would save us (from hell). I now know THAT God is the God of scripture. So yes, many of us have become skeptics. But are no longer skeptics.
Hi bro Adam.
I went through a stage of being a skeptic when Christians were saying unbelievers will be in hell for eternity. In anger I asked God if it was true (after weeks of anger), and that if it was i would NOT be worshipping him! God showed me that day in prayer to “trust him”. And that God is ..love.. Before he showed me this I knew that we inherited our love from somewhere, and I knew THAT God would save us (from hell). I now know THAT God is the God of scripture. So yes, many of us have become skeptics. But are no longer skeptics.
Hi Sis Karmarie, thanks for sharing your spiritual journey. Don’t worry no such eternal Hell (as claimed by the Christian Fundamentalists) is existing. I am studying the NT in the light of it’s original source the Hebrew Bible. I find lot of deviations on the concepts of God, Messiah, Satan etc. You can read my posts on other groups for more details.
Thanks and peace to you…..Adam
There is nowhere in the Bible that says that Hell lasts forever. It is actually very clear that it doesn’t and this is truth is consistent throughout the scriptures. Think about what the Devil would do if he wanted to turn people away from God. He would take control of the faith and bear false witness about it. Very few actually read the scriptures. Most are happy to be spoon fed manmade doctrines. If you are interested, take a close look at this subject here:
Good question.
It always amazed me that the virus came from Wuhan and there was a Virology Lab called Wuhan and you weren’t allowed to connect the dots because that was racist.
Such stupidity in the world these days.
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