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The poem is called:
“It's Jewish”
When we present Almighty Yahweh's law, And arguments from the Scriptures draw, Objectors say, to pick a flaw, “IT'S JEWISH.”
Though at first Almighty Yahweh blessed, And sanctified His day of rest, The same belief is still expressed, “IT'S JEWISH.”
Though with the world this rest began, and then through all the Scriptures ran, And Yahushua said, 'Twas made for man” — “IT'S JEWISH.”
If from the bible we present, The Sabbath's meaning and intent, This answers every argument– “IT'S JEWISH.”
Though the disciples, Luke and Saul, Continue still this rest to call, The 'Sabbath Day', this answers all, “IT'S JEWISH.”
The evangels taught a plain expression, That “Sin is of the law transgression”, Seems not to make the least impression– “IT'S JEWISH.”
They love the rest of man's invention, But if Almighty Yahweh's Day we mention, That puts an end to all contention, “IT'S JEWISH.”
Well, those who Yahweh's Day abuse, Simply because 'Twas made for Jews', The Savior, too, you must refuse, for “HE'S JEWISH!”
Indeed, Yahushua the Messiah is the Lion of the tribe of Judah.
The term “Jewish” primarily refers to Judah, one of the 12 tribes of Israel, though it can also refer to other tribes who mixed in with Judah.
As we read in the poem, many claim that we need not follow the Sabbath or the Torah/law because it is (in their mind) Jewish.
But is this true?
Is the law really Jewish?
I believe that there are 2 answers to that question depending on what you mean by it.
If someone is asking me if the law is 'Jewish', in one sense I would say yes.
To be “Jew-ish” in one sense is to be Jew-like.
If one were to say that the law is Jewish in that perspective, I would agree for Jews have at least believed in keeping the law/Torah for thousands of years although tradition and the Talmud has placed unnecessary things on top of the law.
It is also true that the Jews were given the oracles of Yahweh.
But I think we need to get beyond that, and really look at what the scriptures have to say about His Torah/law.
What is meant by “righteousness”?
Noah and his family were saved because they were righteous.
Genesis 7:1 – And YAHWEH said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.
Noah was a righteous man before there were ever a man of Judah. Abraham too:
Genesis 15:5 – And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. 6 – And he believed in YAHWEH; and he counted it to him for righteousness.
Contrary to popular opinion, Abraham's belief wasn't an empty belief.
It was backed up by action and works..
Genesis 18:19 – For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of YAHWEH, to do justice and judgment; that YAHWEH may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.
Genesis 26:4 – And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;
Genesis 26:5 – Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
Yes, there were commandments, statutes and laws even in those days.. long before there was ever a Jewish man. Yahweh is righteous!
Psalms 40:10 – I have not hid thy righteousness within my heart; I have declared thy faithfulness and thy salvation: I have not concealed thy lovingkindness and thy truth from the great congregation.
Even Pharaoh acknowledged that Yahweh is righteous:
Exodus 9:27 – And Pharaoh sent, and called for Moses and Aaron, and said unto them, I have sinned this time: YAHWEH is righteous, and I and my people are wicked.
As did Yahushua:
John 17:25 – O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
The scriptures say that keeping the Torah/LAW is righteousness:
Deuteronomy 6:25 – And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments before YAHWEH our Elohim, as he hath commanded us.
Notice it says “All these” not just a part here or there.
His word is His law…His word is righteous.
Psalms 119:123 – Mine eyes fail for thy salvation, and for the word of thy righteousness.
Psalms 119:172 – My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.
Psalms 119:160 – Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever.
Every one? forever? YES. And Yahushua agreed. When praying, He said to the Father:John 17:17 – Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
His commandments are part of His word, and His word sanctifies us.
Luke 1:5 – There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
6 – And they were both righteous before YAHWEH, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of YAHWEH blameless.
Even in Yahushua's day the parents of John the Baptist were considered righteous because they were walking in the commandments and ordinances of Yahweh blameless.
Now it can be certain that the scriptures teach that the opposite of “righteousness” is “unrighteousness” or “sin”:
Romans 6:15 – What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under favor? By no means!!
16 – Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Here we see that Sin and righteousness are opposites.
Sin leads to death and obedience leads to righteousness. Here is another verse showing that sin is simply “unrighteousness”:
1John 5:17 – All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death.
This brings us to the question:
“What exactly is sin?”.
Well, if obedience to the law is righteousness—then would not transgression of the law (breaking the commandments in the law) be sin/unrighteousness?
YES.
Scripture says so:
1John 3:4 – Whoever commits sin trangresses also the law, for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 – And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin.
6 – Whoever abides in Him does not sin. Whoever sins has neither seen Him nor known Him.
7 – Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous.
8 – He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of YAHWEH was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.
9 – Whoever has been born of YAHWEH does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of YAHWEH.
10 – In this the children of YAHWEH and the children of the devil are manifest: Whoever does not practice righteousness is not of YAHWEH, nor is he who does not love his brother.
See how they are all tied in together?
See the warnings given!
Now that we have answered the question “What is sin?”, what about all those that seem to say certain parts of His torah/law need not be kept by His people?
Should we only observe the commandments that modern preachers say are only for Gentiles?
Who gets to decide which commandments are “Jewish” and which ones aren't?
Are the Sabbath, the Feast days and the clean and unclean commandments given to Jews or Israelites only?
Let's examine…
Genesis 7:1 – And YAHWEH said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.
2 – Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
Noah was a righteous man.
He knew the difference between the clean and the unclean.
The concept of clean/unclean couldn't possibly be “Jewish” because Noah, a man who existed centuries before there was ever a Jew or an Israelite, being “RIGHTEOUS” knew about the clean and unclean animals.
The answer then must be that this is not a “Jewish” law or doctrine in the sense that it was only given or known to the Jews.
This is YAHWEH'S law and doctrine.
Yahweh clearly marked the animals at creation so that man could distinguish between the clean and the unclean animals For animals, they must have a cloven hoof and chew the cud to be clean. For fish, they must have fins and scales to be clean.
The remarkable thing about this is that most (though not all) of the clean animals are vegetarians and nearly most of the unclean animals are scavengers and feeders off of the ocean floor, the garbage cleaners of the earth.
Yahweh designed the animals in such a wonderful and miraculous way, what a blessing! S
o this is not a 'Jewish' law as commonly meant, this is Yahweh's law!
What about the Sabbath, is it intended for Jews or Israelites only?
We learn that Yahweh did something else at creation besides marking the animals.
He also rested on the seventh day:
Genesis 2:2 – And on the seventh day Elohim ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
He also did something else very important.
Genesis 2:3 – And Elohim blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which Elohim created and made.
He blessed the day and sanctified it.
Did He rest because He was tired?
Did He need to rest?
Surely, Yahweh rested as an example for us! In the Ten Commandments–which are written in stone by His own finger–Yahweh writes:
Exodus 20:8 – Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 – Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 – But the seventh day is the sabbath of YAHWEH thy Elohim: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 – For in six days YAHWEH made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore YAHWEH blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Here it is written that Yahweh blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it at creation.
Some say that there is no scripture telling us that the patriarchs kept the Sabbath day.. or any commandment telling them to keep the Sabbath day.. so we don't have to. But there is no scripture telling us that the patriarchs DIDN'T keep the Sabbath day.
We do see that they must have known about the Sabbath because of how Yahweh created all things and rested, for they were closer to the event of creation than we are.
There was no commandment forbidding homosexuality either, but no one in their right mind would argue that it was okay for them to commit those acts in the wicked city of Sodom.
In fact, as I stated before it was written of Abraham:
Genesis 26:4 – And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;
5 – Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
Where were Yahweh's statutes and His laws in the days of Abraham?
Why did Yahweh destroy Sodom & Gomorrah if there was no commandment against doing such wickedness?
Where was the standard of righteousness when Yahweh destroyed the whole world except Noah and his family?
Well, surely Adam knew righteousness.
I believe they were passed down from generation to generation and were much more commonly known in those days.
Did you know that many timelines show that Noah was alive until Abraham was 65 years of age?
Did you know that many timelines show that Adam's son, Seth died just 13 years before Noah was born?
We also see that Jacob (Israel) co-existed with Shem, the son of Noah.
Thus, it was not so difficult for the standard of righteousness to be passed down.
However, when the children of Israel went into Egypt, they went into forced labor and this commandment along with many others was forgotten:
Nehemiah 9:13 – Thou camest down also upon mount Sinai, and spakest with them from heaven, and gavest them right judgments, and true laws, good statutes and commandments:
14 – And madest known unto them thy holy sabbath, and commandedst them precepts, statutes, and laws, by the hand of Moses thy servant:
Here Nehemiah says in truth that Yahweh “made known to them” His holy Sabbath. His Sabbath day had already existed since creation, Yahweh had to make it known to them that they were to be keeping it holy/separate
.It had been holy to Yahweh centuries beforehand..and He wants His own people to keep it Holy.
So was the Sabbath for Jews or Israelites only?
Some might point to this scripture:
Exodus 31:16 – Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
17 – It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days YAHWEH made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
Some might say that this scripture indicates that the Sabbath was something intended to be kept by physical children of Israel and Yahweh only.
But there are some glaring inconsistencies in such a statement.
Firstly, it is commonly and rightly taught that all who believe in the Messiah will be or presently are under the New Covenant.
This is true.
But if one would only read about it, it would be discovered that the new covenant is not the Gentiles.
I repeat, the New Covenant is NOT with Gentiles!
The New covenant is only with Israel and Judah:
Jeremiah 31:31 – Behold, the days come, saith YAHWEH, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 – Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith YAHWEH:
33 – But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith YAHWEH, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
If you don't keep the Sabbath because that was a part of the “old covenant made with the Jews”, then by the same logic you have just removed yourself from being a partaker in the New Covenant as well!
You are not a party to the New Covenant unless you 'become Israel' through Yahushua the Messiah.
Galatians 3:29 – And if you are the Messiah's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Thus, both the New covenant and the Sabbath (the sign) is between You (Israel) and Yahweh.
Also, Yahweh plainly says that it is a sign between Him and the children of Israel “Forever”.
It is written:
Exodus 31:16 – Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
17 – It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days YAHWEH made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
Therefore when Yahweh says “Forever” He means “Forever!”
This statement alone should prove that the resting on the 7th day and keeping it holy should not cease during ANY time period of history.
So was/is the Sabbath for Jews or Israelites only?
Not at all, it was kept by Yahweh's true people since the beginning of creation.
Yahushua plainly said that His Sabbath was for everyone when He said:
Mark 2:27 – And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Some only like the second part of the statement “not man for the Sabbath”.. but what about the first part “The Sabbath was made for man?”.
When Yahushua said that the Sabbath was made 'for man', I believe that He was telling the truth.
By some interpretations, they would have to correct Yahushua and tell Him He should have said “The Sabbath was made for Jews, not Jews for the Sabbath”.
But this is not what Yahushua said. His statement is backed up by scripture.
Let's read the 56th chapter of Isaiah:
Isaiah 56:2 – Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
3 – Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to YAHWEH, speak, saying, YAHWEH hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.
4 – For thus saith YAHWEH unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
5 – Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
6 – Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to YAHWEH, to serve him, and to love the name of YAHWEH, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
7 – Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.
This proves that the Sabbath (and the temple too!) was intended for anyone who has “Joined himself to Yahweh”, for Yahweh says that “EVERYONE who keeps from defiling the Sabbath” will be accepted in His sight.
To be certain, it is written that everyone will be observing His Sabbath day regularly after the resurrection:
Isaiah 66:22 – For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith YAHWEH, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 – And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith YAHWEH.
ALL FLESH, not just Israelites or Jews. Every Sabbath.
Even in the so called “New Testament” we see that the Gentiles and the Jews were keeping the Sabbath together in the Synagogue:
Acts 18:4 – And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
Truly, the Sabbath was not for Jews only.
James knew what day the Gentiles would be gathered:
Acts 15:19 – Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to YAHWEH:
20 – But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
21 – For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
It was well known by James and others there that the Gentiles would be keeping the Sabbath and therefore would be in the synagogue on the Sabbath day and there they would learn more about Yahweh's law.
James also stated the same thing in his writings:
James 2:2 – For if there should come into your assembly a man with gold rings, in fine apparel, and there should also come in a poor man in filthy clothes,
3 – and you pay attention to the one wearing the fine clothes and say to him, “You sit here in a good place,” and say to the poor man, “You stand there,” or, “Sit here at my footstool,”
The word that is translated “assembly” in this scripture (verse 2) is the Greek word #4864 “Sunagoge”, translated synagogue 55 out of 57 times in the new testament.
Only in this verse (and one other in Acts 13:43) is it not translated “synagogue”.
I do wonder how many people honestly believe this scripture:
Galatians 3:28 – There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in the Messiah Yahushua.
Many like to quote this scripture to say that they don't keep Jewish laws.. but if anything this scripture would declare that they must be one and the same with all Jews in Yahushua.
If we are to believe what Galatians 3:28 says, we cannot say that Yahweh holds one standard for one race of people and another standard for another race of people.
This is not truth!
Yahweh's law was never meant to be double sided.
In fact, Yahweh said on more than one occasion:
Exodus 12:49 – One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.
and again
Numbers 15:16 – One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you.
Therefore, I believe all these scriptures prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that Yahweh's Sabbaths endure forever and are intended for all mankind, not just Jews.
Finally, the Feast days are also meant for all of mankind.
Many of the same scriptures that I have shared concerning the weekly Sabbath day would also apply for Yahweh's seven annual Sabbaths.
In fact, the first part of Leviticus 23 (which outlines all of Yahweh's feast days) it states:
Leviticus 23:2 – Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of YAHWEH, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.
3 – Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of YAHWEH in all your dwellings.
Please note:
This scripture says that these are the feasts of Yahweh, not the feasts of the Israelites or the Jews. He says “These are MY feasts”. Though in another place He also says they are “Your feasts”:
Numbers 29:39 – These things ye shall do unto YAHWEH in your set feasts, beside your vows, and your freewill offerings, for your burnt offerings, and for your meat offerings, and for your drink offerings, and for your peace offerings.
They are His and they are ours also because Yahweh gave them to us!
And, I must add.. they are a great blessing!
Leviticus 23 begins a detailed outline of Yahweh's feast days.
Apparently, Yahweh's weekly Sabbath is also considered a feast day.
This indicates the unity of all of Yahweh's Sabbaths being important.
There are many scriptures also that indicate His annual Sabbaths are intended for all who join themselves to Yahweh, however with time constraining I want to quote one very clear one.
This is in the context of the great battle against Jerusalem in the end times..
Zechariah 14:12 – And this shall be the plague wherewith YAHWEH will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue she will consume away in their mouth.
Has this taken place yet?
Read all of Zechariah 14 and you will see that this chapter speaks of a future day.
Let's continue reading:
Zechariah 14:13 – And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from YAHWEH shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbou
r.14 – And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.
15 – And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.
16 – And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, YAHWEH of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Keep the feast?
Yes.
Zechariah 14:17 – And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, YAHWEH of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
“All the families of the earth”.
Even Egypt!
Zechariah 14:18 – And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith YAHWEH will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 – This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
So here we see that Yahweh is plainly FORCING Gentiles to come up and worship Him and to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.
If it was never His will for Gentiles to keep the feast days why would Yahweh put plagues on Gentiles for not keeping the feast?
Though this world ignores Yahweh's feast days in favor of ones that have their roots in idolatry and devil worship, this will not be the case in the Kingdom of Yahweh!
But these are only a sample of the scriptures that show there is no such thing as a feast intended only for Jews or Israelites.
In scripture, Yahweh chose a people for Himself.
The children of Abraham were chosen because of Abraham's faithfulness.
They were chosen to be the light to all nations.
Through Abraham's seed, all nations (Gentiles) were to be blessed. Israel is geographically situated as a gateway between 3 continents:
Europe, Africa and Asia.
People traveling through the land would hear of Yahweh.
Genesis 22:17 – That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;
18 – And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
Israel was intended to be that light to all nations.
A light through whom all nations would be blessed.
When dedicating the temple, Solomon said:
1Kings 8:41 – Moreover concerning a stranger, that is not of thy people Israel, but cometh out of a far country for thy name's sake;
42 – (For they shall hear of thy great name, and of thy strong hand, and of thy stretched out arm;) when he shall come and pray toward this house;
43 – Hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place, and do according to all that the stranger calleth to thee for: that all people of the earth may know thy name, to fear thee, as do thy people Israel; and that they may know that this house, which I have builded, is called by thy name.
Sadly, we know that in the Tanakh, Israel failed to be the light that Yahweh desired.
But then..
There arose a man.
A Man who would be the light Yahweh desired.
He would be YISRAEL:
Isaiah 49:1 – Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; YAHWEH hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name.
2 – And he hath made my mouth like a sharp sword; in the shadow of his hand hath he hid me, and made me a polished shaft; in his quiver hath he hid me;
This is Messiah speakingL:
Isaiah 49:3 – And said unto me, Thou art my servant, O Israel, in whom I will be glorified.
In this verse, He is called “Israel”!
Isaiah 49:4 – Then I said, I have laboured in vain, I have spent my strength for nought, and in vain: yet surely my judgment is with YAHWEH, and my work with my Elohim.
5 – And now, saith YAHWEH that formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of YAHWEH, and my Elohim shall be my strength.
Israel brought back Jacob/Israel?
How could this be?
It is because the Messiah is being called “Israel” in this verse.
But there is more:
Isaiah 49:6 – And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.
He (Yahushua) became the light to the Gentiles (and to Jacob) that Yahweh had been trying to reach for so long.
And He lives in us, Israel (Yahushua) is in us.
Thus, all the covenants and promises of Israel are for us too, no matter our lineage.
All of Yahweh's commandments intended for Jews are also intended for anyone who wants to be grafted in and join themselves unto Yahweh.
Keeping the Sabbath is no more Jewish in that context than keeping oneself from adultery.
What makes Sabbath keeping “Jewish” and other commandments like baptism un-jewish?
If only certain things are Jewish must we seek out our lineage now to see if we have any Jewish or Israelite blood and therefore exclude ourselves from needing to keep these commandments?
Forget that!
Walk as Yahushua walked:
1John 2:1 – My little children, these things I write to you, so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Yahushua the Messiah the righteous.
2 – And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.
3 – Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.
4 – He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 – But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of YAHWEH is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him.
6 – He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.
In truth, a person cannot say out of one side of their mouth that we need not keep the Sabbath and Torah commandments and then out of the other side of their mouth say that we need to walk as Yahushua walked.
For Yahushua did these things!
This is clearly double talk.
What we really need to do is look at Yahushua's life and emulate it.
In doing so, it is not we who do it but it is He doing it in us–just as He did on earth.
Therefore, let's follow Messiah's footsteps and remember Messiah is not divided.
Jew or Gentile, we are all one in Messiah.
This goes for our position in regards to salvation.
And, as the above scriptures have shown, it also goes for the standard that we are expected to live by.
Let's uphold the standard that we are all expected to live by, no matter who our ancestors are.
Quote (Constitutionalist @ Oct. 28 2009,15:36) Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 28 2009,01:27) Constitutionalist wrote: Quote It means its not against the law, saying if you have those things within you transgress no law.
You will have to explain to me where you see a twisting when I stated that if you live by the Spirit you obey the Law and thus do not break it. That is what “fulfill the Law” obviously means.
Didn't you say earlier 'fulfill” means abolish?
If I did it was not intentionally since my point is actually the opposite of that. I do not think I did though.James 5:19 My brothers, if one of you should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back,
James 5:20 remember this: Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death and cover over a multitude of sins.Hi CON,
Do you fully uphold the laws of Iceland?
If not why are you focussed on the laws given the Jews as it distracts from the Teacher within?Hi CON,
The religious hypocrites among the Jews turned their Law into a mirror and preened themselves in front of it vainly imaging they were righteous.
We should not risk the same folly rather letting the Spirit lead us into ways of righteousness.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 29 2009,06:36) Hi CON,
The religious hypocrites among the Jews turned their Law into a mirror and preened themselves in front of it vainly imaging they were righteous.
We should not risk the same folly rather letting the Spirit lead us into ways of righteousness.
That is a good Question , and I would like to know that too?We are not in that Old Covenant no more and for that matter we never were. It was a sign between God and Israel.
We are under Christ Blood in
Luke 22:20…..”This cup is the new covenanat in My Blood, which isshed for you.And Christ gives us the great Commandments in
Math. 22:36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in thekaw?”
verse 37 Jesus said to Him:” You shall love the LORD your God with al of your heart, with all of your soul, and ih all of your mind.”
verse 38 “This is the first and great commandment.
verse 39 “And the scond is like it:” You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
verse40 “On these two commandment hangs all of the Law and the Prophets.”Now how many times have I put this up for Con? I hope tht you will get it this time, Jesus fullfilled the Old Covenant and we are NOT under that any more.
Hi Irene,
We gentiles were never under that Law.Jesus explained the Law many times to his jewish questioners but that did not mean it was applied to gentiles.
Hi Kerwin:
Marty wrote:Quote
If we obeyed God without sin, then no sacrifice would not be necessary, but neither the Hebrews that were under the law nor we gentiles who were not under the law have obeyed God's eternal law without violating it, if only inadvertently.
Kerwin responded:
Quote I agree that if a person already has the Holy Spirit then there is no need for a sacrifice but we do not which is why Jesus taught that one must be born again in order to enter the kingdom of heaven. That was not preached to the angels who already have the Holy Spirit. The reason that we must be born again is that all of us have sinned and therefore, we are separated from God because of our transgression of His Eternal Law. But when we have the Holy Spirit after we are born again, we still need the sacrifice because we still make mistakes. The Holy Spirit leads us into all truths in His Word, but it is still up to us to obey what He shows us. Without the blood of Jesus we could not be saved.
Marty wrote:Quote
And so, through the Law men know that they have violated God's eternal law or in other words that they have sinned, and when they or we violate the law, it is time to repent.
Kerwin responded:
Quote If we sin then we must confess our sins and God will cleanse us from all unrighteousness. I agree with this. And we know we have sinned when we have transgressed God's eternal Law, and the only remedy is the blood of Jesus that washes away our sins when we confess them with a repentant heart.
Quote 1Jo 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. 1Jo 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jo 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Marty wrote:Quote
The animal sacrifices, the Passover lamb, those offered when an individual sinned, and the sacrifices on the Day of Atonement were symbolic of the perfect sacrifice that God has provided in the person of His Only Begotten Son.
Kerwin responded:
Quote They were a symbol of things to come but they also served to atone for sins a person committed by them making a sacrifice of their possessions in keeping with their wealth. Of course some probably viewed that cost as a license to sin. Yes, it was an atonement, but this sacrifice did not was away their sins, and yes, to they used it as a license to sin, and that is why God said that He did not command them to offer sacrifice, but wanted their obedience. He said: Obedience is better than sacrifice. The sacrifice was necessary because of the sin not so that one could continue in sin.
Marty wrote:Quote
Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to all who believe, but no, the law has not been abolished, we fulfill the law in the body of Christ, through spirit of Love.
Kerwin responded
Quote I believe you accidentally stated your first part wrong. This is what Paul actually stated. Romans 10:4(NIV) reads:Quote
Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.
The Law of Moses did not give anyone the Holy Spirit and so required each individual to obey God’s righteous dictates through human effort. Jesus died on the cross and set the New Covenant into being which did give the Holy Spirit that enabled each person to obey God’s righteous dictates by the power of God. That is how the Anointed One ended the Law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes. In other words as you stated “through the spirit of love”
KJV has it this way:
Quote Rom 10:4 For Christ [is] the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. I believe Con has posted some scriptures to show that those who were striving to keep the law were considered righteous as well as all who belived God, but believing is not just a mental assent, faith without works is dead.
We are all saved by Faith so that our salvation might be by grace. We did not earn our salvation through perfect obedience to God's eternal law. Without the precious blood of the lamb of God no would or can be saved.
Quote Rom 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Rom 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, [was] not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
Rom 4:14 For if they which are of the law [be] heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
Rom 4:16 Therefore [it is] of faith, that [it might be] by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 29 2009,07:29) Hi Irene,
We gentiles were never under that Law.Jesus explained the Law many times to his jewish questioners but that did not mean it was applied to gentiles.
Your right, that is why I gave what we are under now, in my last post.
IreneMarty,
I would like to direct your attention to this teaching of Paul’s. I am using the King James Version because I believe that is your preference.
Galatians 5:16-26(KJV) reads:
Quote This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.This is what I understand from this teaching.
1) It is addressed to those who have entered the New Covenant.
2) There are conditions for those who are in the New Covenant
A) Walk in the Spirit.
B) Walk in the Flesh.
3) The actions of each condition is the fruit of that condition.
A) Righteous actions come from choosing the Spirit
B) Sinful actions come from choosing the Flesh
4) The results of each condition is different.
A) Spirit: You inherit the kingdom of heaven.
B) Flesh: You do not inherit the kingdom of heaven.If I understand you correctly then you are stating you cannot walk in the Spirit because you will stumble and walk in the flesh. That does not sound very good for your hope to inherit the kingdom of heaven because according to this teaching you will have to once more return to walking by the Spirit in order to inherit. Looking at this teaching I would conclude you are forgiven for what sins you have done in the past and not what sins you are currently doing because it clearly states if you are doing these evil things then you will not inherit.
Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 29 2009,11:46) Marty, I would like to direct your attention to this teaching of Paul’s. I am using the King James Version because I believe that is your preference.
Galatians 5:16-26(KJV) reads:
Quote This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.This is what I understand from this teaching.
1) It is addressed to those who have entered the New Covenant.
2) There are conditions for those who are in the New Covenant
A) Walk in the Spirit.
B) Walk in the Flesh.
3) The actions of each condition is the fruit of that condition.
A) Righteous actions come from choosing the Spirit
B) Sinful actions come from choosing the Flesh
4) The results of each condition is different.
A) Spirit: You inherit the kingdom of heaven.
B) Flesh: You do not inherit the kingdom of heaven.If I understand you correctly then you are stating you cannot walk in the Spirit because you will stumble and walk in the flesh. That does not sound very good for your hope to inherit the kingdom of heaven because according to this teaching you will have to once more return to walking by the Spirit in order to inherit. Looking at this teaching I would conclude you are forgiven for what sins you have done in the past and not what sins you are currently doing because it clearly states if you are doing these evil things then you will not inherit.
Hi Kerwin:What does it mean to you when the Apostle Paul indicates that if you are led by the Spirit, you will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh? In other words, What does being led by the Spirit mean to you?
Love in Christ,
MartyTo All…….The commandments of God are never to be done away with, they are eternal even as He is. They are not done away with they are (FULFILLED) BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD IN US. IMO
peace and love to you all………………..gene
Marty wrote:
Quote What does it mean to you when the Apostle Paul indicates that if you are led by the Spirit, you will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh? In other words, What does being led by the Spirit mean to you?
That would be the spirit of righteousness or love according to God.
If you truly love your neighbor as yourself then you will not sin. That is the goal of every true disciple of The Anointed One.
Quote (Gene @ Oct. 28 2009,20:34) To All…….The commandments of God are never to be done away with, they are eternal even as He is. They are not done away with they are (FULFILLED) BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD IN US. IMO peace and love to you all………………..gene
Yup, yupHi KW,
You speak of the second commandment.
The first is greater and most sin is against God telling Him he is not God but a trinity is.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 28 2009,22:58) Hi KW,
You speak of the second commandment.
The first is greater and most sin is against God telling Him he is not God but a trinity is.
Yup, yupQuote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 29 2009,12:58) Hi KW,
You speak of the second commandment.
The first is greater and most sin is against God telling Him he is not God but a trinity is.
They are the same commandment as to do one is to do the other which is why in some places in scripture it just states one.Galatians 5:14(KJV) reads:
Quote For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
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