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“THE WORD” is a Name given to Jesus, neither more nor less. And the reason is that Jesus IS ONE WITH GOD at the highest level.
Only Jesus knows the Father. He is in the strongest sense the Revealer. “No one has ever seen the Father. … It is therefore logical that between the beginning and the end, in John’s discourse on Jesus, there is the word: “I and the Father are one” (Jn 10,30)To all
Extract of “Commentaries For John 1
Matthew Henry Commentary on the Whole Bible (Concise)”
Chapter 1
The apostle and evangelist, John, seems to have been the youngest of the twelve. He was especially favoured with our Lord’s regard and confidence, so as to be spoken of as the disciple whom Jesus loved. He was very sincerely attached to his Master. He exercised his ministry at Jerusalem with much success, and outlived the destruction of that city, agreeably to Christ’s prediction, ch. 21:22 . History relates that after the death of Christ’s mother, John resided chiefly at Ephesus. Towards the close of Domitian’s reign he was banished to the isle of Patmos, where he wrote his Revelation. On the accession of Nerva, he was set at liberty, and returned to Ephesus, where it is thought he wrote his Gospel and Epistles, about A. D. 97, and died soon after. The design of this Gospel appears to be to convey to the Christian world, just notions of the real nature, office, and character of that Divine Teacher, who came to instruct and to redeem mankind. For this purpose, John was directed to select for his narrative, those passages of our Saviour’s life, which most clearly displayed his Divine power and authority; and those of his discourses, in which he spake most plainly of his own nature, and of the power of his death, as an atonement for the sins of the world. By omitting, or only briefly mentioning, the events recorded by the other evangelists, John gave testimony that their narratives are true, and left room for the doctrinal statements already mentioned, and for particulars omitted in the other Gospels, many of which are exceedingly important.The Divinity of Christ. (1-5) His Divine and human nature. (6-14) John the Baptist’s testimony to Christ. (15-18) John’s public testimony concerning Christ. (19-28) Other testimonies of John concerning Christ. (29-36) Andrew and another disciple follow Jesus. (37-42) Philip and Nathanael called. (43-51)
Verses 1-5 The plainest reason why the Son of God is called the Word, seems to be, that as our words explain our minds to others, so was the Son of God sent in order to reveal his Father’s mind to the world. What the evangelist says of Christ proves that he is God. He asserts, His existence in the beginning; His coexistence with the Father. The Word was with God. All things were made by him, and not as an instrument. Without him was not any thing made that was made, from the highest angel to the mélanésie worm. This shows how well qualified he was for the work of our redemption and salvation. The light of reason, as well as the life of sense, is derived from him, and depends upon him. This eternal Word, this true Light shines, but the darkness comprehends it not. Let us pray without ceasing, that our eyes may be opened to behold this Light, that we may walk in it; and thus be made wise unto salvation, by faith in Jesus Christ.”
“THE WORD” is a Name given to Jesus, neither more nor less. And the reason is that Jesus IS ONE WITH GOD at the highest level.
Only Jesus knows the Father. He is in the strongest sense the Revealer. “No one has ever seen the Father. … It is therefore logical that between the beginning and the end, in John’s discourse on Jesus, there is the word: “I and the Father are one” (Jn 10,30)This is good.
But I am sorry to comment on the NT writers and Christianity which tried to convince their Jewish audience to prove that Jesus was the Jewish Messiah by misquoting Hebrew Bible. And most of the Christian Forums are filled with these doctrinal arguments on Jesus. This is the fact. I hope you will understand my point here.
God reveals the Son. But the blind can’t see. Faith in God is evidence of things not seen. I have evidence. But it only works for me because many would not believe my word anyway. Tyey would need to see for themselves. Taste for themselves.
That said, God shows us what we need. It is for us, so we will believe. I repeat. The Bible doesn’t make us believe. The new birth does.The Bible becomes clear when our minds are renewed.
If we are not born of the spirit,then we judge carnally and that includes the scriptures.
Proclaimer ……..Still backwards It is the son, that reveals to us “the Father”.
John 6;47…..” Not that any man has seen the Father, “save” he which is of God, he has seen (discerned) the Father.You people sound like you have lost you “first” love” , or replaced it with Jesus, or simply never had it. I am not saying we should not love Jesus, but he should not be our “FIRST” LOVE.
Mar 12:30…….And You Shall “LOVE”, the Lord your “God”, with “ALL” your heart, and with “ALL” your soul, and with “ALL” your mind, and with “ALL” your strength : this is the “First” Commandment”.
Now understand what Jesus said to the Church of Ephesus
Rev 2:4….. Nevertheless I have somewhat against you, because you have “LOST” YOUR “FIRST” love.peace and love to you all and yours…………..gene
God reveals the Son. But the blind can’t see. Faith in God is evidence of things not seen. I have evidence. But it only works for me because many would not believe my word anyway. Tyey would need to see for themselves. Taste for themselves.
Hi Proclaimer, I think you have already replied my post above. ‘God revealing the so called son’ is purely the creation of NT writers and was not the theme of the Hebrew Bible. So the question of blindness comes only after the investigation of these new ideas of these writers.
Please don’t quote those Anathemas often quoted in defence by these NT writers to support their ideas.
Gadam
Your attempts to make us believe that the authors of the NT are bad interpreters of the OT (among others) ARE IN vain. You are wasting your time and your life and it’s very sad to have to tell you.
Berean……O really, who do you love, “the most”, Is it Jesus or God the father? Please don’t blame me if you don’t know the difference .
Read what Jesus said, after all you say you believe him, right?
Mar 12:30, and Rev 2:4 , where do you fit in at , Mr. Berean ?
Gene
The news which we have heard from him(Jesus), and which we announce to you, is that God is light, and that there is no darkness in him.(God)
1: 6 If we say we have fellowship with him(God), and walk in darkness, we are lying, and we are not practicing the truth.
1: 7 But if we walk in the light, as he himself is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.
If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1: 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous to forgive us them, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
Gene, I believe what is written in the NT. You should be honest and say that you do not.
You do not believe the Word became flesh, Jesus Christ came in the flesh, and that the Word of God who became flesh is coming again with the name: The Word of God.
You and Jodi were stumped when I said that the man from Nazareth is Jesus because that is his name. Yet you couldn’t admit that his name is also, The Word of God., thus he is The Word of God.
Proclaimer……His name is, “CALLED” , the word of God, why because he “tells us ” what God the father tells him to tell us, as a “mediator” would, that in no way makes him the “WORD OF GOD” “HIMSELF.” , your being just like, Berean and Carmel, and LU, and the rest of those who believe Jesus “preexisted ” his birth on this earth.
Your caught up in “mystery” Platonic religious reasonings .Not only do I not believe the word became flesh, “but I also believe there exist no such thing as “ANY WORD” ever , “BECOMING” FLESH. But I do believe what Jesus said is true, “the words I am telling you are not “MY” WORDS, BUT THE WORDS OF HIM THAT SENT ME”, Now I do believe that, how about you ? , after all you like they say you do believe Jesus right?
I also “believe”, GOD THE FATHER’S WORD, came to pass , it was the “FLESH” MAN, named Jesus Christ.Now having said that so many times already, tell me , “who” , is your “FIRST” Love, if you can?
And by they way , Jodi was beyond a doubt one of the sharpest ones on scriptures and the truth of God, that you ever had here on his site. IMO, but well did Jesus said , “as they have done unto me , so shall they do unto you” .
peace and love to you and yours……….gene
Berean, Again you dodged my question , I ask you who is your “FIRST”, LOVE, why can’t you simply answer that question? It really shouldn’t be that hard for any “true” Christian to answer right?
peace and love to you and yours………..gene
Gene
Love Come frôle God
The Father gave his own ONLY Son by love for us, because THE SON HAD OFFERED HIMSELF IN SACRIFICE FOR OUR SALVATION.
WHO OF THE TWO LOVED THE WORLD THE MOST? WHICH OF THE TWO SHOULD LOVE US THE MOST? THE FATHER OR THE SON ???
JOHN 3:16 FOR THE FATHER
JOHN 10:11 and John 15:13 for the Son.It’s about the Father.
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
He is the image of the invisible God. Many things and persons teach us about God. But Christ reveals God.
Berean……Just as I thought , you simply don’t know which one we should have as the Our “first love” for, but, Jesus knew.
Mark 12: 30, and Rev 2:4 .
You say you believe Jesus, but do you really ?
By the way it was , GOD the Father, Who offered up “his” son , it was not the Son who did it. The Son who “LOVED” and trusted in the Father so much , he gave up “his’ “WILL”, in “OBEDIENCE” to the Will, of the Father, unto death, WHY?, because the Father Was Jesus’, “First love”,……….> Mark 12:30.
The same thing must apply it us also. Or you are in the exact same position as those in the church of God at Ephesus was in.
Berean it’s time you figured out who has “FIRST” precedence in your life.” Is it God the Father or Jesus Christ, it can’t be, “both”, “for not man can serve “two” masters . if you truly believe Jesus brother.peace and love to you and yours………..gene
peace and love to you and yours……….gene
Gene
By the way it was , GOD the Father, Who offered up “his” son , it was not the Son who did it.
Me
Yes the Father gave HIS OWN SON, AND THE SON HIMSELF GIVEN HIMSELF VOLUNTARILY. HE COMES DOWN FROM HEAVEN TO FULFILL THE WILL OF HIS FATHER.
Please READ THIS MEDITATION I READ THIS MORNING.
AND BE IN PEACE.Because what was impossible with the Law, because it was weak in the flesh, God having sent his own Son in the form of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh […].
JESUS CHRIST BORN OUR SIN
Because of sin, God had to send to earth his Son Jesus Christ, who died in order to undergo in our place the sanction that we deserved (Romans 8: 3).
Jesus became, by a divine act, sin for us. Not only did he bear our sin, but although he had never sinned, God “made him to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in him” (2 Corinthians 5:21). We understand why, on the cross, Jesus cried out, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? “. Our Father could not bear to look at our sin personified in Jesus.
By becoming “sin”, Jesus also became a “curse” for us, so that we could receive the promised blessing. “Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us – for it is written: Cursed is everyone that hangs on a tree” (Galatians 3:13). The condemnation of sin in the body of Jesus assures us of blessing for all eternity.
1. THE SACRIFICE OF JESUS IS VOLUNTARY
Jesus did not have to give his life. His Father had left him free to choose between giving his life or keeping it. “No one takes it away from me [life], but I give it of myself; I have the power to give it and I have the power to take it back “(John 10:18). He could very well have given up sacrificing himself until the last minute! What a temptation! The scoffers, at the foot of the cross, cried: “He saved others and he cannot save himself!” Of course, Jesus could have come down from the cross! We would have been irretrievably lost by then, but he thought of our salvation and he held on to the end.
Jesus’ voluntary gift should inspire ours. God does not force us to work for him, to give him our time, our money, but he expects us to do it willingly and with joy. Let us always be ready to serve him, to offer him wholeheartedly our time, our strength, our money.
2. THE SACRIFICE OF JESUS IS SUBSTITUTIVE
Jesus died in the place of the sinner. As we look at the cross, let us realize that it is not Jesus, who is sinless, who should have been crucified, but, it is I, it is you, because we are sinners. Our Savior Jesus Christ had no need to come to earth, let alone die. “But he was wounded for our sins, broken for our iniquities; the punishment that gives us peace has fallen on him… ”(Isaiah 53.5). Even the devil could not blame him looking at the cross. Every time I think about it, I cry out, “Thank you Jesus for doing all of this FOR ME!” You died in my place! ”
Jesus abstained from all threats, from all vengeance, He accepted everything FOR US … His sacrifice is for you, for me one hundred percent, from the first anguish to the last cry! What gratitude and what thanksgiving must we constantly bring up to him! What a debt of gratitude we owe our Savior! No service is too hard, no effort is too great to thank it!
Berean……. Again you ignored my question to you. Who is your ‘FIRST LOVE’ , you can’t answer that can you?. That is what the TRINITY teachings do to you people, it changes who your, “FIRST LOVE”, “IS” because it brings the “MAN” Jesus To the exact same level as God the father . Something Jesus never tried to Do, no not ever.
Because you are not able to answer that simple question, were does that put you and everyone else here who thinks like you here? Does that not put you right in with those in the Church of Ephesus,? Rev 2:4
This is a good question for “EVERYONE” HERE. to “TRUTHFULLY” answer, FOR THEMSELVES ALSO.
peace and love to you all and yours………..gene
I agree with you Gene regarding this. The Trinity is so confusing that no one understands it. It causes men to pray to the Father one second, then switch to the Son, and then a request to the Holy Spirit. And as you rightly point out, they cannot place the Father above the Son when it is suppose to be a out the Son bringing us the the Father.
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