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Does Deuteronomy 6:4 and Genesis 2:24 prove that God is a Trinity?
Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.Genesis 2:24
For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.Sometimes two or more verses are used to support the Trinity Doctrine. The idea of course is that multiple scriptures form a picture. Such is the case with Deuteronomy 6:4 and Genesis 2:24. The reasoning here is that God is plural in the same way that a man and woman can be plural even though the word ‘one’ is used. This usage of ‘one’ means unity as apposed to a single unit or number. The OT word used for ‘one’ is ‘yachid’.
But what is obvious here is that the word for LORD in Hebrew is YHWH, which is God’s name. If we Say that Jesus is Yahweh then why can’t we say that Eve was Adam. Yes Eve is of Adam, but of course she wasn’t Adam in identity. Just as Jesus is of God, but he is not God in identity. We as true believers are required to believe that Jesus is of God, not God himself. We are told that Adam and Eve became one flesh. To me that is saying one flesh as in joined together as one in number. So we are told that Adam + Eve = 1 flesh. But to say that 1 LORD + 1 LORD = 1 LORD is not consistent and goes against the greatest commandment that there is only one LORD. Yes many say that the Father + the Son = 1 LORD. But they also believe that they are both LORD. The Father is LORD and the son is LORD. So they are saying that 1 LORD the Father + 1 LORD the Son = 1 LORD. There is no mistaking it. This is what they teach. .Remember that LORD is a translation of God’s name which is YHWH, so to be consistent they should also be saying that 1 Adam + 1 Eve = 1 Adam which is stupid. To say that both the Father is LORD and the Son is LORD is to actually break the greatest commandment that there is only one LORD.
Again I repeat that true faith requires that we believe that Jesus is of God, not GOD himself. Jesus is clearly different a person to God as a man and a woman are different persons.
1 Corinthians 11:3
Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.Jesus said the following in Mark 12:28-29, (a quoting from Deuteronomy 6:4).
28 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?” 29″The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.The NT word/s used here for ‘one’ in Mark 12:29 is ‘he is’. According to the Strongs Concordance it means: numeral, prim. The word one is also used a number of times in Ephesians 4:4-6
4 there is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called
5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism;
6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.So there is no mistaking it. One God the Father and one Lord Jesus… That is one in number. The notion of plurality is dispelled right here. The Trinity Doctrine has bewitched many into not believing that there is one (in number) God who is identified as the Father. This belief is the essense of the greatest commandment. We should take this seriously. It is not about pride or winning an argument, it is about how we can align ourselves with God and his truth. As far as the OT word for ‘one’ ‘yachid’ is concerned, the argument made is that it doesn’t dispell plurality and therefore the trinity Doctrine is not a contradiction of the greatest commandment. But it has to be said that it doesn’t dispell the notion of meaning single/one either. However we are very fortunate that Jesus actually quoted Deuteronomy 6:4 in Mark 12:29 and the Greek word for one/numeral is used and the other verses in the NT that use ‘heis’ are also talking about one in number. Check it out for yourself. Pickup a Concordance and browse the scriptures that use this word. It means 1 as in number. The irony here is that Jesus himself taught that God is one in number not plurality in unity. These words come from the lips of the one that many say is also God, therefore calling him a liar (even in ignorance). Being a follower of Jesus is about believing his own words. If you do not believe Jesus words, then how can you even follow him? A true disciple hears what he says and doesn’t listen to the voice of others. Again the Trinity Doctrine confuses nature with identity. Jesus has divine nature and so we can partake of this nature. Eve had human nature and so did Adam and we partook of this nature. But Adam is not Eve in identity, just as Yahshua is not YHWH in identity. YHWH is the only true God. This is the greatest commandment and it deserves our utmost respect.
The one true God YWHW has a son. He is called Yahshua (Jesus in Greek). The only way that we can fellowship with God is through Jesus Christ his Son. He died for our sins and rose from the dead victorious. He is now seated at the right hand of the one true God and interceeds for us. We need to believe that Jesus is God’s son and that he is the only way that we will be brought into God’s presence. This is part of the true gospel. If you believe that then you should be baptized in the name of Jesus as your part in accepting God’s free gift of salvation.
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The Hebrew word “echad” works the same as the English word “one.
John 17:11
Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given
me, that they may be one, as we are.Those God gave to Jesus were not literally one living being, but one
in a “unified sense”, as you said. So the words, “as we are” at the
end of 17:11 tell us that God and Jesus are “one” in the same sense
that the disciples God gave to Jesus are “one”. Ie: Not the same
literal being, but “one in purpose”, or “one in a unified sense”.God is a spirit,And his Word is a spirit.
God and His Word is one spirit,and He is the image of God;So are all in Christ.God is Holy,and we need to be Holy;filled with the Holy Spirit.
Many in the one spirit.Jesus was the Word made flesh.He spoke to men in the flesh.
He was the image of God in flesh form.
He is now in heaven in spirit form.
He will come again in spirit form;but will be seen by men,in His glory,
and power.Jesus is God’s own Word.Many can not comprehend this mystery,unless given to understand.
wakeup.
Now while the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them a question, saying, “What do you think about the Christ, whose son is He?” They said to Him, “The son of David.” He said to them, “Then how does David in the Sprit call Him ‘Lord,’ saying, ‘The Lord said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Until I put thine enemies beneath Thy feet?”’ If David then calls Him ‘Lord’, how is He his son?” (Matt. 22:41-45).
That is right Nick. He was made Lord by God and for the glory of God.
But has he always been Lord since there was a creation?
Or was he made Lord, 2000 or so years ago?
Hi t8,
Acts 2.36
“Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that GOD HAS MADE HIM BOTH LORD AND CHRIST-this Jesus whom you crucified”
Seems he was MADE these things after he was conceived and born as Jesus
That would also be after he existed in the form of God and emptied himself. But he is full again. Back in the glory he had with the Father before the cosmos.
I don’t have an answer, I have a scripture. But you appear to have an answer. That is, he was made Lord for the first time roughly 2000 or so years ago right.
Hi t8,
We no longer speak of Jesus Christ according to the flesh-2cor5.16]
So what you are saying relates to the Spirit of Christ.
Now the Lord is the Spirit.
The Lord is the Spirit, angels are ministering spirits, we have spirits.
Does Jesus have his own spirit as we do?
Hi t8,
He did.
But just like every man who dies his spirit left at Calvary.
Jn 19.30
When Jesus , therefore, had received the vinegar he said
”It is finished’
and he bowed his head , and gave up the ghost
Lk 23.46
And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said
‘Father into your hands I commend my spirit”
and having said thus he gave up the ghost.
mt 27.50
Jesus when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost
and he bowed his head , and gave up the ghost
He had to die to live in the Spirit
Hi t8,
Abraham Isaac and Jacob are also alive in the Spirit.
God is the God of the living and not the dead.
It is your hope too
Hi t8,
As Romans 8 shows the Holy Spirit is in us with our spirit till we die or are changed at his return-1cor 15.
Then those souls who are of the Spirit of Christ live forever by that eternal Spirit.
Hi t8,
There is only one time that I know of when the spirit of a person is said to leave and come back again
Lk8.55
Hi t8,
Jesus also had to die to fulfil the sign of Jonah.
Death is when the spirit leaves.
Death where is thy sting?
Jesus was immediately alive in the Spirit and visited the souls in prison.[1peter 3]
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