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Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 04 2008,14:46) DK…….What i said above is interesting, but I am not teaching it as anything to do with the Gospel of salvation. peace to younand yours brother………………….gene
It is interesting..it made me think…..not much on this board makes me raise my eyebrow and say…”Hmmmnn..never thought of that”
Hi,
Beware the trap Eve fell into.
2 Corinthians 11:3
But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ.Devotion to the Lord Jesus is vital.
Serving another Jesus who is just a brother is unwise.2Cor11
4For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with himEphesians 4:14
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;Nick……..So Nick, the fearful and unbelieving will not have their part in your literal lake of fire then in your mind, Because you certainly preach fear and trembling as you Gospel of Salvation. But Scripture Says (WE) have (NOT) received the Spirit of (FEAR) like you have, But of POWER and of a SOUND mind. So i wounder who is decieved and doesn't really believe what is written ?
peace and love………………..gene
GB,
Should we sanitise what is written?
Perhaps tell all men that they have been saved?Would our Master be pleased with us?
NH.
1Tim.4:9-11 …9 Faithful is the saying and worthy of all welcome
10 (for for this are we toiling and being reproached), that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind,
11 especially of believers. These things be charging and teaching.Are you 'sanitizing' this scripture so you can say what YOU mean? Would YOUR master be pleased?
CO,
Have you yet heard the gospel?
Rom10
14How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?15And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Nick………We are teaching a Gospel of Peace , it's you who is not teaching it, you teach a Gospel of fear and trepidation, not a Gospel of Love and Forgiveness and Cleansing and restoration. We (ARE) calling all to GOD for Healing and forgiveness and restoration, Not to be burned up in a literal lake of Fire and thinking that may some how cause them to change themselves. Who do you think you are to limit the Father's mercy and Love for His (WHOLE) creation. You are not being perfect in LOVE , because your Gospel has torment , Just as it says for FEAR HAS TORMENT, and (NOTHING) is perfect in FEAR. True LOVE CASTS OUT FEAR. Now ask yourself do you do that Nick, NO you cast in FEAR.
peace and love to you……………………gene
Nick………..yes but God must first bring you to Jesus. I preach Him crucified< Go and figure out what that means Nick., I believe in the Same FATHER Jesus preached and the Same Kingdom He preached. Your problem is your preaching about the messenger but forgetting the message and the one who sent Him. You can not preach Christ and think you are going into the Kingdom , Jesus plainly said that < Not those who say unto me Lord lord will go into the kingdom of God, but those who (DO) the (WILL) of the FATHER. The Gospel of Christ was about the KINGDOM OF GOD, and GOD'S righteousness, not about Him.
peace and love………………………gene
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 13 2009,09:37) GB,
Do you not preach Jesus?
He is the only way to reconciliation with God.
NickGene does preach Jesus and that God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself – that is scripture.
The only way to God is through Christ – no one is saying that there is another way – From what I can see you are twisting words to suit your purposes – both scripture and what people say on this site.
People find it hard to have a conversation with you because you twist and turn what people say and turn it to something that they have not said.
GB,
So preaching Jesus crucified and raised is calling men to repent and accept the gospel of Christ.
You must be born again.meerkat……….Amen Sis, that exactly what Nick Does. only with pride and arrogance along with it. He has no problem twisting what we say around even if it means misquoting you or changing context to what you are talking about. I wish he would stop doing that
peace and love to you and yours…………………………gene
GB,
Keep it simple2Cor11
3But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.The serpent loves intellectual deception.
It appeals to the vanity of man.Nick……….O really where is that written? Please show us that, or is that another part of the gospel of Nick.
love and peace…………………….gene
Yes …… It gets frustrating that he seems to not look at what scripture is saying – he looks at the words but does not try to understand what is being said and to whom and how it fits with the rest of scripture. I am trying to learn but find I can not learn much from Nick as he changes like the wind.
I agree with Chosenone that in a lot of parables and teachings that Jesus was telling the Jews about the then coming judgement against them in 70AD and this is taken out of context and intermingled with other prophecy and made to be all prophecy about an end of the world doomsday armegeddon that is still in our future.
GB
2Cor 11
3But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.Nick………..As i told you long ago its the understanding that counts , anyone can parrot scripture and us it to justify their own positions. but its “the sum of God's word thats truth”, and you fail to do that at times brother, Don't be so nieve as to think that what other say that doesn't agree with you at time means they are not being taught by God's Spirit , just because you fail to understand what they are saying, If you can disprove what said by Scripture that fine if not then you need to consider what being said Brother. That you may grow by it. Don't assume you have all the answers , because that would be a mistake i assure you. WE only see in part as looking through an obscure glass right. (PROVE) all things, not assume all things are carnal because you don't understand it. IMO
love and peace to you and yours…………………………………gene
G,
Yes and it is assumed understandings that cause men to think they have the Spirit and which divide men from each other.Let scripture speak and interpret itself
Hi,
Acts 17 tells us that all men are called to repentance.
It is this which makes the angels rejoice.Those who have just heard of the salvation in Jesus and believe have no difficulty understanding the meaning of the godly command.
But far more are entrapped in deception. They have attempted to enter the kingdom by some other means apart from the door of Jesus and by the definition of Scripture are thieves and robbers.
Universalism, salvation by faith alone, following men and their doctrines and denominations, and belief in salvation by obedience to Law or by personal assent are all examples of deception. remaining deceived means you will die in your sins hopeful only on the specified mercy of God to avoid the second death.
Repent and be baptised in the name of Jesus for the forgiveness of your sins and you will receive the promised Spirit.
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