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Hi,
We were warned against deception.
Strangers who speak the words of the world.Ephesians 4:14
That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;Folk bring their false doctrines here and it is sad to see so many fall for their subtle tricks.
We need to be strongly anchored on the teachings of Jesus. Mt7
24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:25And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
Hi,
2Jn
6And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.7For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
But instead of listening men offer nonbiblical teaching such as universalism or trinity theory and claim they or scientists know more about truth than Jesus Christ.
Nick………show us who here has ever said Scientist know more about truth than Jesus Christ. The only thing said was the Man NEWTON know more about the word Satan and Devil or demons then (YOU) did. And you carried that over into saying I am taking His word over Jesus' words, when in fact the words of Newton go right along with what Jesus was saying in fact i as well as Jodi agree with this also. Who give you the right to Make (FALSE ACCUSATIONS) about anyone. You would do a far better Job as monator by just saying you disagree with something, then making false statement about a persons faith being that of deception, when in fact you may be far more decieved than those you are accusing of are.
Said in love Nick………………..gene
GB,
Good so you know Newton is only correct when he limits his ideas to what is written.
But his views were constantly changing.
A poor foundation I agree.Nick……….We are told to (GROW) in Knowledge , if we are growing we are learning , which means we don't have (all) understanding yet. Newton's brilliances was expressed in His ability to add to His understanding as He went along the same as we should, thats what growing is all about. What do you think it means where it says we look through a dark or obscure Glass, we just don't have it all now, we are to grow in understanding through new and more accurate knowledge and the revelation of God as it becomes available.
To say your views never change is dangerous ground, it seals you off from learning and makes you appear as a Know it all. That thinking places yourself over others, a position that leads to pride and we all know it says “Pride comes before a fall” and again “GOD resists the proud and gives GRACE to the HUMBLE”. Humble yourself therefore and God will raise you up in due time. Nick no body has (ALL) knowledge , not even Jesus, or Newton or me or you. Were all trying to come to a better understanding Here.
peace brother……………..gene
GB,
The teachings of God are written.
The Spirit does not speak of His own initiative but reminds us of the words of Jesus.We do not follow Newton.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 26 2008,04:42) GB,
The teachings of God are written.
The Spirit does not speak of His own initiative but reminds us of the words of Jesus.We do not follow Newton.
Nick……..It says when the spirit comes it would not speak of (ITSELF) but whatsoever it hears (THAT) will it speak. This means that the Spirit speaks to us what it hears from GOD himself. And while Jesus spoke what He heard from that Same spirit , that does not that Same Spirit can not also speak to Us and reveal New things God wants us to Know.To think that the Spirit of God does not reveal and teach both (New) and (OLD) things only shows you lack of understanding of what is written. Did Jesus tell Peter who He was or did God the Father reveal it to him. And why does it say a true Scribe will bring forth both NEW and OLD things.
You seem to not understand that God the Father does reveal new understandings to His children. If this were not so then All the apostles would have only spoke Jesus' words, word for word and there would have been not need for any of their writings at all. But they spoke as the SPIRIT gave them utterance. They were not Parroting Jesus They had been given by the same Spirit of GOD their own understandings.
peace to you………….gene
GB,
2 jn
9Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.Nick……… Thats true but , Jesus had no doctrine of His (OWN) except to do the WILL of GOD. Jesus Taught us what the Father gave Him to teach and that is what the word doctrine means, It is a teaching and Jesus' teachings were not His but the Fathers teachings or (doctrine). But Jesus is not the only one the Father spoke through. ” For God spoke in times past through the prophets has in these last day spoken through a son”.
We need the whole of scriptures to fully understand things of God. It 's says the (SUM) of GOD'S word is truth. Many use Just Jesus' teachings and deceive while all the time Preaching Jesus,Not those who say about Jesus Lord, Lord, will enter into the Kingdom of God , but those who (DO) the WILL of GOD.
love and peace to you and yours…………………. gene
GB,
The Son spoke the pure Words of His God.
They are truth above all other other revelation.
Those who came before were thieves and robbers.Those in him do not go beyond his teaching into speculation.
Giving lipservice to his words as those of God is not of respect
Those in him cherish, respect and guard that truth zealousy.Offering as equal the jumbled thoughts of scientists is of man's folly
Nick……….So in your mind all the words in the old testament we should not believe because they were thieves and robbers, and All the word after Jesus were they also all thieves and robbers. Should we tare out all of Paul's writing and the other apostles and treat them as trash and tare out all the old testament also and Just Keep the Translated words of Jesus ONLY . And should we believe that GOD actually Spoke through the prophets or not, Seeing you seem to think God (ONLY) Spoke truth through Jesus.
And to think all things said by scientist are jumbled thought is pure folly epically if they have given over 72 years of there life studying God's word and speak according to the words of Christ Which they understand (maybe) more then you or I do.
Nick……….Jesus did not reveal (all truth) but some truth. There is even more truth that hasn't even entered the mind of Man and that includes Jesus Also. Please don;t think i am disagreeing with Jesus Because I am NOT disagreeing with Him. I may disagree with How you or someone else (understands) what Jesus was saying but not with Him.
Anyway peace to you and yours and have a nice Thanks giving ………………..gene
GB,
The Spirit of Christ was at work through all of God's faithful servants.
But none compare in any way with the Lord Jesus Christ the son of God.Listen to him ahead of all others and let him teach you from the new and the old what is true.
The title of this thread has meaning. Deception means teaching non-biblical mans teachings as truth. Therefor teaching that there is “One eternal gospel for all”, should not be allowed.
Blessings.
Not my opinion, this teaching of “one eternal gospel for all”, is nowhere found in scripture. It is a 'false teaching'.
CO,
You should believe the gospel.
It is the gospel of God, the gospel of Jesus Christ, the gospel of the kingdom.
Paul too called it his gospel as his words too were from the Spirit of God aligning with that of Jesus and God.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 27 2008,13:39) GB,
The Spirit of Christ was at work through all of God's faithful servants.
But none compare in any way with the Lord Jesus Christ the son of God.Listen to him ahead of all others and let him teach you from the new and the old what is true.
Nick……….Truth isn't any better or worse if Jesus spoke it or an apostle or me or you , truth is truth no matter who says speaks it whoever is guided by the spirit of truth and speak it is Just as valid as if Jesus spoke it.Do you understand what the (SPIRIT OF CHRIST) Means. It is the Spirit of the Anointing that was in Jesus and All who have it have that (SAME)Spirit in them and it produces the awareness of truth in the person it is in, Just like it did Jesus.
peace……………..gene
GB,
No other man had this said of him
Jn3
31He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.32And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.
33He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.
34For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.
35The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
Respect him.
Nick …..I do respect Jesus and believe what He said its not about what He said it your understanding of what he said is the problem here not the respect and honor of Jesus. You keep trying to make it about respecting Jesus and that has nothing to do with what we are talking about. It's your understanding of what Jesus said is the problem Here, not Jesus.
peace…………….gene
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