Deaf, Dumb and Blind

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,

Was he not spat upon? Did men not want to murder him?

Is your testimony relevant?

Were you there?

[Ed J]

EDJ Jesus was not despised and rejected by men

Hi BD,

Are you suggesting that the Pharisees, Sadducees,
and the Roman officials, all accepted Jesus as the Messiah?
No BD, the Gospel accounts are clear, they rejected and despised him.

Why do you persist in trying to claim authority to one part of Scripture
and attempt to use that part to discredit another part of Scripture.

Do you not understand just how ridiculously absurd that is?
BD, when are you going to wake-up out of this delusion?

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God bless
Ed J

[Ed J]

Remember: “Messiah” means “God’s anointed Leader”

[bodhitharta]

@Nick

Hi BD,

Was he not spat upon? Did men not want to murder him?

Is your testimony relevant?

Were you there?

Wasn’t the reason that Jesus was so popular and they were afraid to lose power?

Do you think 5000 people following you is a sign of being unpopular, Pontious Pilate liked him and Herod was even EXCEEDINGLY glad to see him, one thing is for sure Jesus was very popular with the majority of people

[Ed J]

Hi BD,

Considering Jesus popular, and making him LEADER are two
very different things BD. Everybody likes a clown, but who wants a boss?
The Pharisees, Sadducees, and the Roman officials, all rejected Jesus as their LEADER.

[bodhitharta]

@EDJ

Hi BD,

Considering Jesus popular, and making him LEADER are two
very different things BD. Everybody likes a clown, but who wants a boss?
The Pharisees, Sadducees, and the Roman officials, all rejected Jesus as their LEADER.

Yes, that is what I was saying, he was drawing too many people too him, so of course he was popular he was not “as one from whom men hide their faces”

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,

Yes you have strong opinions so long as they suit your nefarious schemes.

That is all that comes through

[Ed J]

Hi BD,

Considering Jesus popular, and making him LEADER are two
very different things BD. Everybody likes a clown, but who wants a boss?
The Pharisees, Sadducees, and the Roman officials, all rejected Jesus as their LEADER.

Yes, that is what I was saying, he was drawing too many people too him, so of course he was popular he was not “as one from whom men hide their faces”

No BD,

You were instead implying that the bible (based on islamic teachings) is wrong.

Diversion, confusion, and deception <–this is islam

Let’s put you to the test…

(Isaiah 53:3) “He is despised and rejected of men” (<–true? “Yes” or “No”?)

Here are your choices…

1. Honesty
2. Diversion
3. Deception

Well BD? What is your answer?

[bodhitharta]

Just to let you know EDJ giving choices that don’t fit the question is deception in itself for instance asking someone “have you stopped beating your wife, yes or no?” is a question in which the outcome is forced to match the desire of the questioner.

[Ed J]

Hi BD,

I’m asking is Isaiah 53:3 true, now will you please answer;
persisting with a non-answer is a diversion. (see #2 on the list)

[Ed J]

Diversion

1. Talk about something else by…
. 1a. Answering a different question while pretending it was the answer to the question asked
. 2a. Complain that it is an invalid question, while making no attempt to actually answer it

2. Refer to something that was said before while completely ignoring the question.

David the JW was a champ at using tactic 1a

[bodhitharta]

@EDJ

Hi BD,

I’m asking is Isaiah 53:3 true, now will you please answer;
persisting with a non-answer is a diversion. (see #2 on the list)

Isaiah 53 is true about whomever it is talking about but you are inserting your view about who the verse is about, we would have to first agree who the subject is about is it about the Jews as the Jews say it is about or is it about Jesus who the Christians say it is about

Isaiah 41:8-9
But you, Israel, are My servant, Jacob whom I have chosen …

Isaiah 44 “But now listen, Jacob, my servant, Israel, whom I have chosen. 2 This is what the Lord says— he who made you, who formed you in the womb, and who will ..

Isaiah 49:3 He said to Me, “You are My Servant, Israel, In Whom I will show My glory.”

So suddenly out of Nowhere you think it is talking about Jesus when it mentions 12 times up to 53 that Israel is this servant

And Israel has been rejected and despised all over the world they have been brought down to death and have still seen their seed and all this can be said without any metaphysical manipulation.

You have to ask yourself when there is a section with no mention of who is being spoke of but all the verses leading up to the section are speaking of a certain person or group, is the subject still about the person or group or has the subject changed?

The most important part is what does the scripture even say in the first place:

The vision concerning Judah and Jerusalem that Isaiah son of Amoz saw during the reigns of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.

Isaiah 1:3 The ox knows its master, the donkey its owner’s manger, but Israel does not know, my people do not understand.”

Just like you do not understand that Allah is your God…you do not understand

[bodhitharta]

@EDJ

Isiah 1:5 Where will you be stricken again, As you continue in your rebellion? The whole head is sick And the whole heart is faint. 6From the sole of the foot even to the head There is nothing sound in it, Only bruises, welts and raw wounds, Not pressed out or bandaged, Nor softened with oil.

Who is this about? Is this about Jesus?

[bodhitharta]

Isaiah 53

7He was oppressed and afflicted,

yet he did not open his mouth;

he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,

and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,

so he did not open his mouth.

This verse cannot be about Jesus who Christians BELIEVE he “opened his mouth” on the cross to complain that God had forsaken him

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