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Hi BD,
Jesus like Jonah, was saved from the second death.
Alive in the Spirit like Jonah he triumphed over death for us.
But his blood was poured out and his human spirit left him at calvary.
Think beyond the grave into eternal life. The second death has no power over those in Christ.
Bodhitharta,
In other words God will protect and SAVE Him, notice there is no mention of sacrifice or blood only Mercy,Salvation and Preservation
You are placing too much importance in the mortal life.
Hi BD,
After the death of Jesus he was still alive in the Spirit.
1Peter 3.18
Then there was no sacrifice at all because Jesus said the flesh profiteth nothing so killing his mortal life would have no profitable meaning
Hi K
Bodhitharta,
In other words God will protect and SAVE Him, notice there is no mention of sacrifice or blood only Mercy,Salvation and Preservation
You are placing too much importance in the mortal life.
So I worship God in Spirit and truth and those who believe ending the mortal life of Jesus is the only salvation is being more spiritual?
“I” come: in the volume of “the book” it is written of me” (Psalms 40:7)
Okay but the psalm says Jesus will be saved
Hi BD,
But not in the way that islam claims, and I can prove it. Since you now agree that
Psalms 40 speaking prophetically about Jesus, lets examine what Psalms 40:2 says:“He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay”
1. Who is the “He” in Psalm 40:2?
2. What does “an horrible pit” mean?
3. What does “out of the miry clay” mean?____________
God bless
Ed Jpsalm 40 6
In sacrifice and offering you have not delighted,but you have given me an open ear.[a]Burnt offering and sin offering- you have not required
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Now keep in mind this is a prayer FOR delivery so in the prayer he is not yet been injured at all this is proven by the verse:
Psalm 40 17
As for me, I am poor and needy,
but the Lord takes thought for me.
You are my help and my deliverer;
do not delay, O my God!psalm 40 6
In sacrifice and offering you have not delighted,but you have given me an open ear.[a]Burnt offering and sin offeringyou have not required
Hi BD,
As usual you try to make a partial truth into the whole truth, and
in doing so you completely miss the big picture of God’s replete truth.“Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die,
it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.” (John 12:24)What or Who is the “corn of wheat” (in this parable) a reference to?
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God bless
Ed Jhi BD,
You still hope to prove scripture wrong through the use of scripture?
Daft.
Hi Nick,
You see what a steadfast belief in islam forces people to do…
attempt to prove scripture wrong through the use of scripture – What a dumb religion!
At least he will get 3,000 boy slaves and 72 black eyed virgins, while believers in Christ will only get the fryerNOT
Yes Nick!
“Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness.” (Luke 11:35)
“If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!” (Matt 6:23)Hi BD,
As usual you try to make a partial truth into the whole truth, and
in doing so you completely miss the big picture of God’s replete truth.“Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die,
it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.” (John 12:24)What or Who is the “corn of wheat” (in this parable) a reference to?
He is referring to himself as he was willing to die it is really interesting because he was responding this way due to the fact that many people came and believed after Lazarus had died and been resurrected/raised from the dead
John 12 9 When the large crowd of the Jews learned that Jesus was there, they came, not only on account of him but also to see Lazarus, whom he had raised from the dead. 10So the chief priests made plans to put Lazarus to death as well, 11because on account of him many of the Jews were going away and believing in Jesus.……
16His disciples did not understand these things at first, but when Jesus was glorified, then they remembered that these things had been written about him and had been done to him. 17The crowd that had been with him when he called Lazarus out of the tomb and raised him from the dead continued to bear witness. 18The reason why the crowd went to meet him was that they heard he had done this sign. 19So the Pharisees said to one another, “You see that you are gaining nothing. Look, the world has gone after him.”
This goes to show that Jesus was not despised, he was EXTREMELY popular not like the suffering servant in Isaiah who was despised and rejected of men
but , yes the parable was about him because he was willing to die if it was God’s will, But Jesus was clear it was his will to die not God’s as he said take this “cup” from me which seemed to symbolize his life, otherwise you would only be able to say he was asking to be saved and God didn’t hear his plea
For John to harmonize with the other writers Jesus would have been hastening his death as he was anxious to leave this world but he said “not my will”There are only two possibilities either it was
1. not the will(he wants to be saved) of Jesus to be killed by the plotters
2. the will of Jesus(God can save him) to be killed by the plotters
Hi BD,
“Verily, verily, I say unto you,
Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die,
it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.” (John 12:24)What or Who is the “corn of wheat” (in this parable) a reference to?
He is referring to himself
Hi BD,
Yes! Are you suggesting that he abides alone? If you are,
that is in stark contradiction to what Isaiah 53 says…he shall see his seed (Isa 53:10)
he shall bear their iniquities. (Isa 53:11)
he hath poured out his soul unto death (Isa 53:12)“Jesus”(74) died and produced “Fruit”(74) – learn “Bible Truth”
…and sh_t-can the quran
Huge problem @EDJ
Hi BD,
Yes! Are you suggesting that he abides alone? If you are,
that is in stark contradiction to what Isaiah 53 says…he shall see his seed (Isa 53:10)
he shall bear their iniquities. (Isa 53:11)
he hath poured out his soul unto death (Isa 53:12)“Jesus”(74) died and produced “Fruit”(74) – learn “Bible Truth”
…and sh_t-can the quran
Isaiah 53:3English Standard Version (ESV)
3 He was despised and rejected[a] by men;
a man of sorrows, and acquainted with[c] grief;[d]
and as one from whom men hide their faces[e]
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.EDJ Jesus was not despised and rejected by men he was EXTREMELY popular and while I agree this are popular verses applied to Jesus they don’t really fit without some blatant twisting to make them fit. Jesus was drawing people to him at an incredible rate
Matthew 4:23-25English Standard Version (ESV)
23 And he went throughout all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues and proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom and healing every disease and every affliction among the people. 24 So his fame spread throughout all Syria, and they brought him all the sick, those afflicted with various diseases and pains, those oppressed by demons, epileptics, and paralytics, and he healed them. 25 And great crowds followed him from Galilee and the Decapolis, and from Jerusalem and Judea, and from beyond the Jordan.
This is the fact and this is actual info on his life not a prophetic scripture applied to him Judas was despised and rejected but not Jesus
what do you say about this important fact
Hi BD,
Since you despise the teachings he gave from God you are following another.
Your god is not our God.
Hi BD,
Since you despise the teachings he gave from God you are following another.
Your god is not our God
so you don’t have any actual proof that I am wrong?
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