Covenants

[IM4Truth]

942767 Since you go to Church on Sunday, I wonder if they believe in the trinity. If so, Revelation has a lot to say about Babylon and the Harlots. But on thing is for sure that God wants us to come out of that system.
Rev. 18:4 “And I heard another voice from heaven saying” Come out of her my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.
This is not easy especially if you have children. All of the Holidays are of the false religion. In 313 A.D. after almost three Centuries of brutal and bloody persecution , the Roman Emperor Constantine issues an edict, granting all Christians full freedom to practice their religion. It is Cconstantine that issues an edict forbidding work on Sunday. All Holy days were changed to the Babylonian Holidays like Christmas and Easter. There is were all the changes were made. Christ was not even born on December 25.

Peace Mrs.

[942767]

Hi IM4Truth:

Because I have had to work on the Week-end recently, I have not been able to go to church any where on Sunday, but yes, the church where I was worshipping did teach the trinity and other doctrines that I disagree with.  In order to become a member of the church, a person had to sign that they agreed with their statement of Faith, and therefore, I was not a member.  Acturally, I was worshipping at this church temporarily until God was ready to ordain me as the Bishop of the church that I left before I came there.  When I came there, I discussed with the Pastor the fact that I was leaving a church temporarily because the Pastor had agreed to discuss some differences that had with their doctrines, and she went back on her word, but that God had showed me through a vision that she would realize that God was trying to reach her through me and that she would call me back to be ordained as the Bishop over the church.  Also, when I came there I discussed with the Pastor, the differences in doctrine that I had with his church, including the Trinity doctrine.  I told him that my salvation did not depend on my accepting that doctrine, and gave him scripture to support this.  He acknowledged that this was so my telling me that I was welcome to worship with them.  Also, My wife would not go to church with me at the church that I left because she felt unconfortable there.  She was going to church with me at this last church.  

If you are interested you may read my personal testimony at the URL below:

https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;t=1241

If you have further questions, please ask.

God Bless

[kenrch]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 10 2007,15:26)

Ken, OK, now its scripture proof time, and I kind of asked it before. Can you show me where the six days of labor starts on the first day of the week and the Sabbath is on the 7th? Biblically alone, not according to Jewish tradition. No reference to the calendar. Thanks.

kejonn the bible is a Jewish book. Gentiles are grafted in to Israel, Rom.11.

[kenrch]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 10 2007,13:41)

Hi Ken: I thought of one other thing relative to what you believe about the Sabbath being Saturday and Saturday only.  Saturday for some people who are in a different time zone from you is a different set of hours.  What do you say about this?

94, You are to keep the Seventh day Sabbath. If you are in Africa and it's the Seventh day then it is the Sabbath. If you are in America and it is the seventh day then it is the Sabbath.

I am always amazed of how much trouble people will go through to NOT keep a day that is a blessing.

Do you know when the first day is? How about 2-6? But when it comes to God's Day WOW! look out! Cause then come the questions. And if I may say so silly questions.

You don't want to be blessed then don't keep God's day keep the Harlot's day. You want to be the least in the kingdom then TEACH that you don't have to keep the Sabbath, Matt.5:19.

The latest thing is that God wrote ALL the laws and Moses didn't write any!

You guys do what you want and pray that you are right. Even if I'm wrong and I'm NOT I'm safe by keeping the same day God did AND Commanded. It's HIS day not mine and NOT yours.

IHN&L,

Ken

Wow! You keep the first day Sunday the Harlot's day?

[IM4Truth]

942767 Thank you for your Testimony. I also read what no3in1 response to that was, and I was surprised because that was my impression also. We certainly have to check with Gods Word if what we believe is true and prove it. I still have to answer your Question how I keep the Sabbath spiritual. In order to do that, I don't want to make the same mistake I made with Ken and I am going to ask my Husband to help me with that. Since I was born in Germany, even tho we have been here for over 50 years. I sometimes have trouble explaining what I mean. My mind is not as sharp as I want it to be anymore, age does that to you and Deceases too, but I know in my heart what I want to say. My Husband and I have been married for 46 years. We have 4 children and 6 Grandchildren. I guess I should have put this under Testimony, he. Oh, to late. But there is a lot more to our Life Story. Looking back I can see how God has worked in our lives and how He has helped us so very much. I am so grateful for all, but mostly I am grateful for our Heavenly Father that He loved us so much, that He send us His only begotten Son to die for our sins, so we can have eternal life.
Thank you again
Mrs.

[942767]

Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 11 2007,10:00)

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 10 2007,13:41) Hi Ken: I thought of one other thing relative to what you believe about the Sabbath being Saturday and Saturday only.  Saturday for some people who are in a different time zone from you is a different set of hours.  What do you say about this? 94, You are to keep the Seventh day Sabbath. If you are in Africa and it's the Seventh day then it is the Sabbath. If you are in America and it is the seventh day then it is the Sabbath. I am always amazed of how much trouble people will go through to NOT keep a day that is a blessing. Do you know when the first day is? How about 2-6? But when it comes to God's Day WOW! look out! Cause then come the questions. And if I may say so silly questions. You don't want to be blessed then don't keep God's day keep the Harlot's day. You want to be the least in the kingdom then TEACH that you don't have to keep the Sabbath, Matt.5:19. The latest thing is that God wrote ALL the laws and Moses didn't write any! You guys do what you want and pray that you are right. Even if I'm wrong and I'm NOT I'm safe by keeping the same day God did AND Commanded. It's HIS day not mine and NOT yours. IHN&L, Ken Wow! You keep the first day Sunday the Harlot's day?

Hi Ken:

God is blessing me every day, and I hope that he is blessing you as well.  As I have indicated to you before, it is not the specific day that is important in keeping the Sabbath but the principle of resting on the seventh day.

I am happy that you are striving to obey the Commandments of God, but I am not happy that you seem to be judging others who do not agree with you.  I don't believe that that is your appointed position.

Anyway, I fully expect for God to ordain me as a Bishop or overseer in the church, and if he does and confirms what I am teaching with the same type of miracles that he performed through Jesus and the Apostles, then it will be Him saying that what I am teaching is correct.

I'll let you know when I am to be ordained, and perhaps I can send you an invitation to the ordination service.

God Bless

[942767]

Quote (IM4Truth @ Aug. 11 2007,10:44)

942767  Thank you for your Testimony.  I also read what no3in1 response to that was, and I was surprised because that was my impression also. We certainly have to check with Gods Word if what we believe is true and prove it. I still have to answer your Question how I keep the Sabbath spiritual. In order to do that, I don't want to make the same mistake I made with Ken and I am going to ask my Husband to help me with that. Since I was born in Germany, even tho we have been here for over 50 years. I sometimes have trouble explaining what I mean. My mind is not as sharp as I want it to be anymore, age does that to you and Deceases too, but I know in my heart what I want to say. My Husband and I have been married for 46 years. We have 4 children and 6 Grandchildren. I guess I should have put this under Testimony, he. Oh, to late. But there is a lot more to our Life Story. Looking back I can see how God has worked in our lives and how He has helped us so very much. I am so grateful for all, but mostly I am grateful for our Heavenly Father that He loved us so much, that He send us His only begotten Son to die for our sins, so we can have eternal life. Thank you again Mrs.

Hi Mrs. IAM4Truth:

My testimony includes some mistakes that I made early in my walk with the Lord.  I am fully aware that some of this was not God, but I also know what was and is from God.  I tried to share the whole testimony in a concise manner.  I didn't try to hide my mistakes, but I shared the truth as it happened.

I was full of zeal at that time, and I was trying to go out and save the world before I was ready, and God had to slow me down in order to keep me from making a mess.  One can not go teach others until one is first taught himself.

I am still full of zeal but now I have a little more knowledge of the scriptures.  It has been 27 years since my conversion experience.

God Bless you and your family

[kenrch]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 11 2007,12:32)

Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 11 2007,10:00) Quote (942767 @ Aug. 10 2007,13:41) Hi Ken: I thought of one other thing relative to what you believe about the Sabbath being Saturday and Saturday only.  Saturday for some people who are in a different time zone from you is a different set of hours.  What do you say about this? 94, You are to keep the Seventh day Sabbath. If you are in Africa and it's the Seventh day then it is the Sabbath. If you are in America and it is the seventh day then it is the Sabbath. I am always amazed of how much trouble people will go through to NOT keep a day that is a blessing. Do you know when the first day is? How about 2-6? But when it comes to God's Day WOW! look out! Cause then come the questions. And if I may say so silly questions. You don't want to be blessed then don't keep God's day keep the Harlot's day. You want to be the least in the kingdom then TEACH that you don't have to keep the Sabbath, Matt.5:19. The latest thing is that God wrote ALL the laws and Moses didn't write any! You guys do what you want and pray that you are right. Even if I'm wrong and I'm NOT I'm safe by keeping the same day God did AND Commanded. It's HIS day not mine and NOT yours. IHN&L, Ken Wow! You keep the first day Sunday the Harlot's day? Hi Ken: God is blessing me every day, and I hope that he is blessing you as well.  As I have indicated to you before, it is not the specific day that is important in keeping the Sabbath but the principle of resting on the seventh day. I am happy that you are striving to obey the Commandments of God, but I am not happy that you seem to be judging others who do not agree with you.  I don't believe that that is your appointed position. Anyway, I fully expect for God to ordain me as a Bishop or overseer in the church, and if he does and confirms what I am teaching with the same type of miracles that he performed through Jesus and the Apostles, then it will be Him saying that what I am teaching is correct. I'll let you know when I am to be ordained, and perhaps I can send you an invitation to the ordination service. God Bless

94, Which church if I may ask? Is “the church” a mainstream denomination?

I'm not judging I'm quoting scripture. Let the word of truth Judge. BTW I've never seen where we keep the Sabbath on whatever day “WE” please. Is there scripture? I mean besides Rom 14:5

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As I have indicated to you before, it is not the specific day that is important in keeping the Sabbath but the principle of resting on the seventh day.

Scripture Please. I mean besides Rom.14:5

Any day we please to be the Sabbath IS the Sabbath! As I said I didn't think we could create a day, separate it, and make it Holy. Of course the Pope said he can and did, to millions of people!

He did just what you are doing, Dan 7:25.

Whatever you want. Remember to rest once a week!

[942767]

Hi Ken:

The the forth commandment is quoted for you below:

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Deut. 5:13 Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work:   5:14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.

While it is true that God began his work week on Sunday and rested on Saturday.  The commandment does not say that I have to begin my work week on the same day.  God did not number the days one through seven.  The commandment says six days shall thy labor and do all of thy work and it says rest on the seventh day.  It would be nice if all of us as Christians could rest on the same day, but as I pointed out to you there are people in a different time zone who even if they observe the Sabbath on Saturday, they are a different set of hours than your Sabbath.  Also, I have pointed out that the Nation of Israel was predominately agricultural and so being self employed they could begin their work week on Sunday.  In the society that I live the work week starts on Monday and the seventh day is on Sunday.  I fellowship with my Father every day, and none of them to me is the Harlot's day.

God Bless

God Bless you and your family

[942767]

Hi Ken:

Actually, Genesis 1 and 2:1-2 does not say anything about Sunday being the first day and Saturday being the seventh day.  The scripture just states that he created this or that on day one, on day two etc and he rested on the seventh day.

I'll have to study this further to see just when the days were given the names that they have today.  It appears then that it was the Nation of Israel that began its work week on Sunday and rested on Saturday.  I said that God began his work week on Sunday and rested on Saturday because I was under this impression, but apparently this is not correct.  

God Bless

[kenrch]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 11 2007,14:04)

Hi Ken: The the forth commandment is quoted for you below: Quote Deut. 5:13 Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work:   5:14 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou.   While it is true that God began his work week on Sunday and rested on Saturday.  The commandment does not say that I have to begin my work week on the same day.  God did not number the days one through seven.  The commandment says six days shall thy labor and do all of thy work and it says rest on the seventh day.  It would be nice if all of us as Christians could rest on the same day, but as I pointed out to you there are people in a different time zone who even if they observe the Sabbath on Saturday, they are a different set of hours than your Sabbath.  Also, I have pointed out that the Nation of Israel was predominately agricultural and so being self employed they could begin their work week on Sunday.  In the society that I live the work week starts on Monday and the seventh day is on Sunday.  I fellowship with my Father every day, and none of them to me is the Harlot's day. God Bless God Bless you and your family

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Exo 16:22 And it came to pass, that on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses. Exo 16:23 And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning.

Then they counted 1-6…Sabbath Their was NO Sunday!

You keep YOUR day! And I'll keep the day God said too. You follow the world I'll follow God. Remember to rest once a week. That's what you are saying the forth commandment is saying. Do your thing.

2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

There is no need to continue this conversion you do what YOU want

[Laurel]

Iam4truth,

I can't take it any more. I have been reading most of your posts on this thread. Did you learn anything at church? How can you go from one extreme to the other and still see no truth in between? I do not know all things and we are all in the same boat here. We need each other. I am just very offended, and I know it is not you doing it to me, but I am also instructed by my Father in Heaven to keep all 10 commandments.

Please read the Torah. It tells Israel that if anyone wants to worship their El (God), they are not allowed to turn them away. They are commanded in the Torah to treat their guest as themselves. They were not permitted to cause “anyone” to work on the Sabbath.

YHWH is the Elohim of Israel, and if you would like to worship Him you need to do it His way. You can't make up your own rules, that is why there is so much division in the world. We ALL need to do things His way if we want to worship Him. PERIOD.

The word law is translated from the word Torah and Torah means instruction. The Torah is good, and Set-apart, the Torah is a light to peoples. The Torah teaches us how to live a long life if we follow it. The Torah is a help to the people of Elohim.

I'm with Ken, I am also Spiritual Israel. If you are not grafted in, you will not see the kingdom of Elohim.

Do we know exactly what we are supposed to do, well we know enough. We know that we are to test Scripture. We knoe that we are to believe Y'shua is the Messiah and the Son of Elohim, and we are to “guard the commands, spotlessly, blamlessly, untill the coming of Messiah.

The law can not save, we have all sinned, BUT we are supposed to do are very best to learn it and keep it.

Love in our Master Y'shua who kept the commands and the Feasts, and the traditions handed Him by His heavenly Father. His blood sealed them and so they stand now and forever.
Laurel

[charity]

The Sabbath and laws and commands; are designed to bite which ever way you observe; Therefore Hang all of the Laws upon one Law of Love and kindness; that whatsoever you do any day of the week is then found worthy of righteousness; how shall one hear the spirit leading him to go about his fathers business; if he be consumed with where he must be, observing and obeying earthy authority’s of set Laws
Therefore the Law will always find us acuse, when we are then asigned and sent to the needy. which then is not a time that we are to resting on whatsoever day it befalls us. even the needy that can't come to us, are often found robbed.

Mat 12:10  And, behold, there was a man which had [his] hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.
Mat 12:11  And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift [it] out?
Mat 12:12  How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.

[kenrch]

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The Sabbath and laws and commands; are designed to bite which ever way you observe; Therefore Hang all of the Laws upon one Law of Love; whatsoever you do any day of the week is then found worthy of righteousness; how shall one hear the spirit leading him to go about his fathers business’ if he consumed with he must be obeying earthy authority’s of set Laws Therefore the Law will always find us acuse, when we sent to someone in need. which then is not a time that we are to resting Mat 12:10  And, behold, there was a man which had [his] hand withered. And they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him. Mat 12:11  And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift [it] out? Mat 12:12  How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.

And what good is faith without works?

The fruit of love IS:

1Jo 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

HIS Commandments not ours. We can't change His law and do what we want and believe that will please Him.

Cain tried that!

[Laurel]

The Sabbath is a day of rest, it is the 7th day, so says YHWH!

It is right to do good on the Sabbath. Don't twist is to make it convienient for yourself like those who are unlearned and unstable do, to their own destruction.

Do not follow the way of the heathen, and do not follow the way of the Pharisees. Follow the Way of YHWH.

[Laurel]

Pro 4:2 For I give you good instruction (doctrine), forsake ye not my Torah(law).

Psa 111:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom:a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth forever.

Isa 9:2 The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.

[charity]

Sidetracked In the wilderness, 40 days and 40 Nights did Moses Fast to be given the tablets of written commandments

To replace the foundations of the covenant of mercy given to King David, the setting up of the everlasting throne of Christ
With the foundations of the covenant given to the faithless and unbelieving by Moses, Maybe being seduced into error, these covenants ran together on earth for over a 1000 yr period from David’s Kingdom to Christ; who simply said when he came all things offered under the Law cannot please God to continue is to be cursed to obey Law; and it leads to death; Christ has made… By Grace alone may I stand the Law to obey?
I saw Justice and Judgment in the heart appear; with one breathe do we use the words of the King; the writer of the psalms to confirm our own minds to make our commands of Law, and with the next breathe, we allow the Law its power to turn an execute its judgment on the life of the sweet psalmist and his Son the wisest man that ever lived. Of whom God loved dearly, in all their failings

I heard then that it is safer for one; to observe and do the Law; least they allow themselves to be subject to the internal torment suffering anxiety guilt and shame, as one that is cursed and accused; failing to keep ones oaths.
I heard when one has found themselves out side of the safe boundaries of what their mind tells them is lawfully right to do; Faith in His grace.. Can sometimes not be enough for them yet
And I felt the LAW ACHIEVING its purpose pushing me closer to the grace DOOR, as my strength to keep working for my own approval be for God; was becoming to much to rest

Charity

[kejonn]

Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 10 2007,16:38)

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 10 2007,15:26) Ken, OK, now its scripture proof time, and I kind of asked it before. Can you show me where the six days of labor starts on the first day of the week and the Sabbath is on the 7th? Biblically alone, not according to Jewish tradition. No reference to the calendar. Thanks. kejonn the bible is a Jewish book. Gentiles are grafted in to Israel, Rom.11.

Wrong. How long have you been reading the Bible Ken? The OT is a Jewish book. Paul's writings, while he was a Jew, was to Gentiles.

Now that we are all convinced that you keep the Sabbath and think that you and all others who do so are the only blessed people, let's see if we can't see where Yeshua spoke about such as you.

Luk 18:9 And He also told this parable to some people who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and viewed others with contempt:
Luk 18:10 “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector.
Luk 18:11 “The Pharisee stood and was praying this to himself: 'God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.
Luk 18:12 'I fast twice a week; I pay tithes of all that I get.'
Luk 18:13 “But the tax collector, standing some distance away, was even unwilling to lift up his eyes to heaven, but was beating his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me, the sinner!'
Luk 18:14 “I tell you, this man went to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted.”

I've seen you “attack” many others on here because they do not keep the Sabbath the same exact way you do. Don't you find it somewhat telling that the seemingly biggest thing that the unbelieving Jews had against Yeshua was that they constantly accused him of breaking the Sabbath. It was a sticking point to them. And so it seems it is with you.

So now let me show you where you break God's Law. You may not like it and say I'm wrong, but so be it. I'm just tired of your puffed up attitude and the way you strut around on here because your feel you alone are serving God because you keep the Sabbath the same way as the Jews. What you are doing in the meantime is accusing others of being less blessed than you, and you attack them. So here is the one Law you constantly break

Exd 20:16 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.”

Now, before you spit and sputter and say I'm wrong, think about it. You slam people for not keeping the Saturday Sabbath. Yet they tell you that they labor six days and rest on the seventh. But to you, this is not good enough. Are you then their judge? Are you certain that you are exhibiting more fruit than they? Do you have these Ken?

Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
Gal 5:23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
Gal 5:24 Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
Gal 5:25 If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit.
Gal 5:26 Let us not become boastful, challenging one another, envying one another.

Finally, let me show you some commentary on bearing falswe witness.

WES: 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness – This forbids, Speaking falsely in any matter, lying, equivocating, and any way devising and designing to deceive our neighbour. Speaking unjustly against our neighbour, to the prejudice of his reputation; And (which is the highest offence of both these kinds put together) Bearing false witness against him, laying to his charge things that he knows not, either upon oath, by which the third commandment, the sixth or eighth, as well as this, are broken, or in common converse, slandering, backbiting, tale – bearing, aggravating what is done amiss, and any way endeavouring to raise our own reputation upon the ruin of our neighbor's.

The last phrase is quite telling. You may not think you do so, but most others would agree that you take your observance of the Sabbath to mean that you are more spiritual than they. You tell people they have no fellowship with God. Do you know their lives? Do you know whether or not they are living the abundant life (not in material goods but peace, love, and joy) that Yeshua promised?

And here is my last verse for you

Mat 6:1 “Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven.

[kenrch]

Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 12 2007,00:59)

Quote (kenrch @ Aug. 10 2007,16:38) Quote (kejonn @ Aug. 10 2007,15:26) Ken, OK, now its scripture proof time, and I kind of asked it before. Can you show me where the six days of labor starts on the first day of the week and the Sabbath is on the 7th? Biblically alone, not according to Jewish tradition. No reference to the calendar. Thanks. kejonn the bible is a Jewish book.  Gentiles are grafted in to Israel, Rom.11. Wrong. How long have you been reading the Bible Ken? The OT is a Jewish book. Paul's writings, while he was a Jew, was to Gentiles. Now that we are all convinced that you keep the Sabbath and think that you and all others who do so are the only blessed people, let's see if we can't see where Yeshua spoke about such as you. Luk 18:9   And He also told this parable to some people who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and viewed others with contempt: Luk 18:10   “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. Luk 18:11   “The Pharisee stood and was praying this to himself: 'God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. Luk 18:12   'I fast twice a week; I pay tithes of all that I get.' Luk 18:13   “But the tax collector, standing some distance away, was even unwilling to lift up his eyes to heaven, but was beating his breast, saying, 'God, be merciful to me, the sinner!' Luk 18:14   “I tell you, this man went to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted.” I've seen you “attack” many others on here because they do not keep the Sabbath the same exact way you do. Don't you find it somewhat telling that the seemingly biggest thing that the unbelieving Jews had against Yeshua was that they constantly accused him of breaking the Sabbath. It was a sticking point to them. And so it seems it is with you. So now let me show you where you break God's Law. You may not like it and say I'm wrong, but so be it. I'm just tired of your puffed up attitude and the way you strut around on here because your feel you alone are serving God because you keep the Sabbath the same way as the Jews. What you are doing in the meantime is accusing others of being less blessed than you, and you attack them. So here is the one Law you constantly break Exd 20:16   “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.” Now, before you spit and sputter and say I'm wrong, think about it. You slam people for not keeping the Saturday Sabbath. Yet they tell you that they labor six days and rest on the seventh. But to you, this is not good enough. Are you then their judge? Are you certain that you are exhibiting more fruit than they? Do you have these Ken? Gal 5:22   But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, Gal 5:23   gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. Gal 5:24   Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Gal 5:25   If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. Gal 5:26   Let us not become boastful, challenging one another, envying one another. Finally, let me show you some commentary on bearing falswe witness. WES: 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness – This forbids, Speaking falsely in any matter, lying, equivocating, and any way devising and designing to deceive our neighbour. Speaking unjustly against our neighbour, to the prejudice of his reputation; And (which is the highest offence of both these kinds put together) Bearing false witness against him, laying to his charge things that he knows not, either upon oath, by which the third commandment, the sixth or eighth, as well as this, are broken, or in common converse, slandering, backbiting, tale – bearing, aggravating what is done amiss, and any way endeavouring to raise our own reputation upon the ruin of our neighbor's. The last phrase is quite telling. You may not think you do so, but most others would agree that you take your observance of the Sabbath to mean that you are more spiritual than they. You tell people they have no fellowship with God. Do you know their lives? Do you know whether or not they are living the abundant life (not in material goods but peace, love, and joy) that Yeshua promised? And here is my last verse for you Mat 6:1   “Beware of practicing your righteousness before men to be noticed by them; otherwise you have no reward with your Father who is in heaven.

Paul was a Jew to the gentiles we are Spiritual Jews. At least I am. If you don't want to keep the Ten commandments then Don't. The Father doesn't want you to keep HIS Sabbath if you don't want too.

He wants compassion NOT sacrifice. Just keep following the Harlot. If you don't keep the Sabbath then you are keeping the Harlot's day.

There is no such thing as YOUR way. All we have is a choice. The Father's way OR Satan's way. If you choose NOT to follow Jesus and His Father's way then you automatically choose Satan's way, period!

Right kejonn if your heart is not right then what good would keeping the Ten Commandments do? NONE!

I can't be much plainer “THE LAW DOES NOT SAVE”

But if you love God then you WILL keep His Commandments.

1Jo 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

May be you should read the above scripture a few times so it will sink in. WHAT IS THE LOVE?

THIS ONE TOO:

2Jo 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

Again WHAT IS THE LOVE?

THIS IS THE COMMAND! Keep the command or don't it's up to you!

2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

IHN&L,

Ken

[kejonn]

Ken,

Just as I thought. If one can be a spiritual Jew, then one can be a spiritual Pharisee.

What does IHN&L mean anyway? In His Name & Love? Well, please show me where you exhibit the Love part. I've yet to see it. All I ever see is judgment. Which is fine, it is your life after all.

You break one commandment and I'll break another. We both transgress.

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