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Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2010,19:44) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 08 2010,19:32) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 08 2010,16:20) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 07 2010,12:23) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 07 2010,12:14) Yes, the gospel is crack-pottery to those who are perishing.
And let's face it, you believe you are perishing too, so no argument from both sides on this one.1 Corinthians
“For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written:
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him…
What god?Stuart
God.
What god?Stuart
Hi Stuart,Can you see oxygen? That's as silly as saying what oxygen !
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Can see oxygen (it is pale blue and magnetic when liquified). Can't see gods.Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Mar. 08 2010,19:47) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2010,19:44) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 08 2010,19:32) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 08 2010,16:20) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 07 2010,12:23) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 07 2010,12:14) Yes, the gospel is crack-pottery to those who are perishing.
And let's face it, you believe you are perishing too, so no argument from both sides on this one.1 Corinthians
“For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written:
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him…
What god?Stuart
God.
What god?Stuart
Hi Stuart,Can you see oxygen? That's as silly as saying what oxygen !
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Can see oxygen (it is pale blue and magnetic when liquified). Can't see gods.Stuart
Hi Stuart,When God is inside a person “believers” can his represented image. (John 3:3)
Col:3:10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed
in knowledge after the image of him that created him:John 14:8-9 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me,
Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Stu @ Mar. 08 2010,19:28) But you cannot, and yet hypocritically you accuse me of not being able to explain it when you cannot either.
Hi Stu,I guess I was just a clanging bell. But I got what I wanted out of you. Simply, you cannot explain the crap you post on this site. I only need one explanation: God.
Peace, love and prayers,
mikeQuote (Stu @ Mar. 08 2010,14:47) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2010,19:44) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 08 2010,19:32) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 08 2010,16:20) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 07 2010,12:23) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 07 2010,12:14) Yes, the gospel is crack-pottery to those who are perishing.
And let's face it, you believe you are perishing too, so no argument from both sides on this one.1 Corinthians
“For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written:
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him…
What god?Stuart
God.
What god?Stuart
Hi Stuart,Can you see oxygen? That's as silly as saying what oxygen !
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Can see oxygen (it is pale blue and magnetic when liquified). Can't see gods.Stuart
Stu,
So by your reasoning oxygen only came into existence when refrigeration did?Wm
Quote (Stu @ Mar. 08 2010,19:47) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2010,19:44) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 08 2010,19:32) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 08 2010,16:20) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 07 2010,12:23) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 07 2010,12:14) Yes, the gospel is crack-pottery to those who are perishing.
And let's face it, you believe you are perishing too, so no argument from both sides on this one.1 Corinthians
“For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written:
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him…
What god?Stuart
God.
What god?Stuart
Hi Stuart,Can you see oxygen? That's as silly as saying what oxygen !
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Can see oxygen (it is pale blue and magnetic when liquified). Can't see gods.Stuart
I can't see one species changing into another.
I can imagine it. But it remains imagination.Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 09 2010,13:26) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 08 2010,19:28) But you cannot, and yet hypocritically you accuse me of not being able to explain it when you cannot either.
Hi Stu,I guess I was just a clanging bell. But I got what I wanted out of you. Simply, you cannot explain the crap you post on this site. I only need one explanation: God.
Peace, love and prayers,
mike
Like I wrote earlier, why don't you get back to us when you know something about it.Or can actually use your god concept to explain anything.
I mean actually explain.
Stuart
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 09 2010,13:46) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 08 2010,19:47) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2010,19:44) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 08 2010,19:32) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 08 2010,16:20) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 07 2010,12:23) Quote (t8 @ Mar. 07 2010,12:14) Yes, the gospel is crack-pottery to those who are perishing.
And let's face it, you believe you are perishing too, so no argument from both sides on this one.1 Corinthians
“For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. For it is written:
“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.”Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him…
What god?Stuart
God.
What god?Stuart
Hi Stuart,Can you see oxygen? That's as silly as saying what oxygen !
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
Can see oxygen (it is pale blue and magnetic when liquified). Can't see gods.Stuart
I can't see one species changing into another.
I can imagine it. But it remains imagination.
And what does your blindness concerning the fossil record have to do with the invisibility of your Imaginary Friend?Any news on where the new species came from?
Stuart
Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 09 2010,13:34) Stu,
So by your reasoning oxygen only came into existence when refrigeration did?Wm
I have no idea what you are on about, Wm.Stuart
Stu,
Quote Can see oxygen (it is pale blue and magnetic when liquified). Can't see gods. Stuart
From what you said you have to see something to believe it, so prior to the ability to sufficiently cool and liquefy oxygen you couldn't see it. Thus to follow your reasoning, the unseen (like God) does not exist.
Wm
Quote From what you said you have to see something to believe it, so prior to the ability to sufficiently cool and liquefy oxygen you couldn't see it. Thus to follow your reasoning, the unseen (like God) does not exist. Wm
Well put.
Quote (Stu @ Mar. 09 2010,19:54) And what does your blindness concerning the fossil record have to do with the invisibility of your Imaginary Friend? Any news on where the new species came from?
Stuart
Oh, the fossil record. A whole lot of bones that when clipped together show different and similar species from long ago. Then the imagination connects the dots and says, hey that ape came from that one coz they look really similar.My point stands. They didn't see it. You didn't see it. And you don't see God.
Yet God doesn't exist because you can't see him, but species changing into others does exist, even though you can't see that. I call that bias myself.
Maybe you could level the same argument toward me, but I was once on your side of the fence, and I got my proof that I was wrong. And then when I looked at the evidence for what I use to believe in, it was feeble anyway. It was about believing in the imaginations of men, fuelled by bias. It was the blind leading the blind.
So what is the weather like on the atheist side of the fence, I know over here it is sunny and looking forward to eternity. I don't think moving back to ape-hood with the reward of becoming compost appeals to me any more.
Anyway, different strokes for different folks. Or different takes for different apes.
Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 10 2010,00:59) Stu, Quote Can see oxygen (it is pale blue and magnetic when liquified). Can't see gods. Stuart
From what you said you have to see something to believe it, so prior to the ability to sufficiently cool and liquefy oxygen you couldn't see it. Thus to follow your reasoning, the unseen (like God) does not exist.
Wm
There was no concept of “oxygen” until it was discovered, ie until there was evidence for it.There are many god concepts but no unambiguous evidence for any of them.
Stuart
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 10 2010,01:27) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 09 2010,19:54) And what does your blindness concerning the fossil record have to do with the invisibility of your Imaginary Friend? Any news on where the new species came from?
Stuart
Oh, the fossil record. A whole lot of bones that when clipped together show different and similar species from long ago. Then the imagination connects the dots and says, hey that ape came from that one coz they look really similar.My point stands. They didn't see it. You didn't see it. And you don't see God.
Yet God doesn't exist because you can't see him, but species changing into others does exist, even though you can't see that. I call that bias myself.
Maybe you could level the same argument toward me, but I was once on your side of the fence, and I got my proof that I was wrong. And then when I looked at the evidence for what I use to believe in, it was feeble anyway. It was about believing in the imaginations of men, fuelled by bias. It was the blind leading the blind.
So what is the weather like on the atheist side of the fence, I know over here it is sunny and looking forward to eternity. I don't think moving back to ape-hood with the reward of becoming compost appeals to me any more.
Anyway, different strokes for different folks. Or different takes for different apes.
Now, do you have an answer to the question?All the new species that have regularly appeared in the fossil record over time. Where did they come from?
Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Mar. 08 2010,19:41) Quote (princess of the king @ Mar. 08 2010,00:39) Quote Well there is no need for love in anything, is there? Pardon the interruption Stuart, just for clarification, could you laymen your thoughts on this one.
Thank you in advance.
Yes. An example might be the few evangelical creationists who bite their tongues and complete a PhD in a biological science just so they can use the credibility of a PhD to support their lies about natural history. For most biologists a PhD is a work of love. For these creationists there is no love for the subject, they are just out to deceive. Sad really. I imagine a few of them are turned off creationism by the astonishment and wonder of these sciences, but there will be some dullard religious liars with just enough brains to jump through the hoops who make it back to the creation museum with a real qualification. Of course everything they learned, including their own research for the doctorate are things they will have to lie about to others.Is laymen an American verb? Like burglarize, which is a respectable noun that has been corrupted?
Stuart
Stuart,You know your audience, don't play coy. Come on big fella, give it a go, tell me truly what you think love is.
Princess
Quote (Stu @ Mar. 10 2010,05:45) Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 10 2010,00:59) Stu, Quote Can see oxygen (it is pale blue and magnetic when liquified). Can't see gods. Stuart
From what you said you have to see something to believe it, so prior to the ability to sufficiently cool and liquefy oxygen you couldn't see it. Thus to follow your reasoning, the unseen (like God) does not exist.
Wm
There was no concept of “oxygen” until it was discovered, ie until there was evidence for it.There are many god concepts but no unambiguous evidence for any of them.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,Why do you say stuff that just ain't true, I have God's signature recorded; which IS PROOF!
Ed J
Quote (princess of the king @ Mar. 10 2010,10:17) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 08 2010,19:41) Quote (princess of the king @ Mar. 08 2010,00:39) Quote Well there is no need for love in anything, is there? Pardon the interruption Stuart, just for clarification, could you laymen your thoughts on this one.
Thank you in advance.
Yes. An example might be the few evangelical creationists who bite their tongues and complete a PhD in a biological science just so they can use the credibility of a PhD to support their lies about natural history. For most biologists a PhD is a work of love. For these creationists there is no love for the subject, they are just out to deceive. Sad really. I imagine a few of them are turned off creationism by the astonishment and wonder of these sciences, but there will be some dullard religious liars with just enough brains to jump through the hoops who make it back to the creation museum with a real qualification. Of course everything they learned, including their own research for the doctorate are things they will have to lie about to others.Is laymen an American verb? Like burglarize, which is a respectable noun that has been corrupted?
Stuart
Stuart,You know your audience, don't play coy. Come on big fella, give it a go, tell me truly what you think love is.
Princess
Love is orange.Stuart
Quote (Stu @ Mar. 10 2010,05:47) Now, do you have an answer to the question? All the new species that have regularly appeared in the fossil record over time. Where did they come from?
Stuart
Um, I would have thought you knew the answer.God.
Quote (Stu @ Mar. 10 2010,18:55) Quote (princess of the king @ Mar. 10 2010,10:17) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 08 2010,19:41) Quote (princess of the king @ Mar. 08 2010,00:39) Quote Well there is no need for love in anything, is there? Pardon the interruption Stuart, just for clarification, could you laymen your thoughts on this one.
Thank you in advance.
Yes. An example might be the few evangelical creationists who bite their tongues and complete a PhD in a biological science just so they can use the credibility of a PhD to support their lies about natural history. For most biologists a PhD is a work of love. For these creationists there is no love for the subject, they are just out to deceive. Sad really. I imagine a few of them are turned off creationism by the astonishment and wonder of these sciences, but there will be some dullard religious liars with just enough brains to jump through the hoops who make it back to the creation museum with a real qualification. Of course everything they learned, including their own research for the doctorate are things they will have to lie about to others.Is laymen an American verb? Like burglarize, which is a respectable noun that has been corrupted?
Stuart
Stuart,You know your audience, don't play coy. Come on big fella, give it a go, tell me truly what you think love is.
Princess
Love is orange.Stuart
Your regressing Stuart.Quote (t8 @ Mar. 11 2010,10:19) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 10 2010,05:47) Now, do you have an answer to the question? All the new species that have regularly appeared in the fossil record over time. Where did they come from?
Stuart
Um, I would have thought you knew the answer.God.
Yes I know.However, I want to know your explanation.
Should we make it into a debate?
That bible-literalist creationists have no credible explanation for the fossil recordStuart
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