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Hi CO,
Phil1
“1Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the SAINTS in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:'
Phil 3
” 16Nevertheless, whereto WE have already attained, let US walk by the same rule, let US mind the same thing.17BRETHREN, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as YE have US for an ensample.
18(For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
19Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)
20For OUR conversation is in heaven; from whence also WE look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21Who shall change OUR vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.”
Nick.
This should help you understand what you quoted in Philippians 3:17-21.EXHORTATION TO IMITATE PAUL
17 The imitation of Christ, when He was concerned with an economy which was, in some ways, the opposite of the present, has led to endless failure and confusion. The reason for Paul's exhortation that he be made a model for their imitation arises from the
fact that in him alone do we see the resurrection life of Christ interpreted in terms of present conduct. Christ's earthly life needs no such interpretation, so none of the other apostles are models in this sense even for the Circumcision.18 The enemies of the cross of Christ are those who, failing to apprehend the significance of His shameful death, still cling to the terrestrial and the physical. The cross of Christ brings before us the manner of His death. It was an ignominious, shameful, malefactor's death, to which God's curse was attached. Hence we may avail ourselves of the efficacy of His blood, and yet, by clinging to the world and the flesh, become enemies of His cross.
20 Our citizenship, or enfranchisement, in contrast to that of Israel, is in the heavens. We have no political privileges where the sovereignty of our Lord has been rejected. But we have high hopes both politically and physically. We shall reign with Christ in the celestial spheres. And this body of humiliation will be transfigured to conform to His glorious body. He is coming as a Saviour.
21 Here we have the definite assurance of His ability to subordinate the entire universe. This will not be accomplished until the consummation (lCor.15:24-28) .
Blessings.
Hi CO,
Who is your expert?
Paul was as Christ, the light on the hill for the lost, and wisdom to those reborn.
Christ was alive in him and working through him by the same godly grace Christ worked.
No man now has citizenship in the heavens outside of rebirth into Christ.No free lunches.
You too must be born again.
Same eternal gospel first given to the Jews.Nick.
This is an example of what Paul thought of his past, under the “law”. He now thinks of it as “refuse” (garbage). Now under “grace”, he trusts in “Christ”. The Law was abolished!4 And am I having confidence in flesh, also? If any other one is presuming to have confidence in flesh, I rather:
5 in circumcision the eighth day, of the race of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews, in relation to law, a Pharisee,
6 in relation to zeal, persecuting the ecclesia, in relation to the righteousness which is in law, becoming blameless.
7 But things which were gain to me, these I have deemed a forfeit because of Christ.
8 But, to be sure, I am also deeming all to be a forfeit because of the superiority of the knowledge of Christ Jesus, my Lord, because of Whom I forfeited all, and am deeming it to be refuse, that I should be gaining Christ,
9 and may be found in Him, not having my righteousness, which is of law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is from God for faith:Blessings.
Hi CO,
Indeed Paul put behind him all the uselessness of Phariseeism and came to Christ.
All men everywhere need to repent.
All have sinned.Hi CO,
The preaching of Christ was partly about the OLD Testament Covenant Law and how it was to be interpreted.
Those who knew no better asked him about these things and he who is TRUTH answered them.That was not his gospel.
That is not the new covenant that is for all.
Nick.
The apostle Paul, writing in Galatians 4:1-5, explaines that we are not under law, but if we try to be (like you) we will be under the yoke of slavery. See the following:1 For freedom Christ frees us! Stand firm, then, and be not again enthralled with the yoke of slavery.
2 Lo! I, Paul, am saying to you that if you should be circumcising,(under law) Christ will benefit you nothing.
3 Now I am attesting again to every man who is circumcising, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.
4 Exempted from Christ were you who are being justified in law. You fall out of grace.
5 For we, in spirit, are awaiting the expectation of righteousness by faith.
6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision is availing anything, nor uncircumcision, but faith, operating through love.
7 You raced ideally! Who hinders you not to be persuaded by the truth?
8 This persuasion is not of Him Who is calling you.
9 A little leaven is leavening the whole kneading.Hope this improves your understanding of trying to “earn” your salvation by obeying the OT law.
Blessings.
Hi CO,
The gospel of Jesus Christ is not the OT law. It surpasses that law.
Now we who are reborn into him are made righteous on the basis of his works and not our own.
We enter instead into the rest, our faith being in his works done undeservedly for us.
But we must strive to enter in the narrow gate.Hebrews 4
1Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.2For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
Nick.
A good explanation of this scripture you quoted:That the entrance into the land was only a typical suggestion of the reality is evident when the psalmist speaks of a future entrance. The word “rest” is not a correct rendering of the Hebrew “sabbath” or the Greek word here used. God was not tired when He first instituted the sabbath (Gen.2:2). He stopped, not rested. So the unbeliever is not asked to rest from his works, to gather strength to resume them, but to stop because God has finished His work.
Joshua (in Greek the same as Jesus) signifies Jehovah the Saviour. He brought them into the land. Hence, while Moses and Aaron are discussed at length, their ministry being in the wilderness, Joshua is barely mentioned. This shows how consistently this epistle clings to the wilderness experiences of Israel. It is not concerned with the entrance into the promises.9 The sabbatism which remains for Israel is the millennial kingdom. Those who, like Caleb and Joshua, spy out the land, and have confidence that God will fulfill His promise, enjoy the sabbatism by faith. All the rest are strewn along the wilderness.
Blessings.
Nick.
I guess I need to know of what to repent of, please help me. Just a simple explanation will do.Hi CO,
He died for you.
But he cannot repent for you.
All men everywhere have been called to repent.
God wants to wash men clean inside that they may be vessels fit to contain the Spirit of Life.Nick.
His death and ressurrection has jutified us, so what is there to repent about? (you probably won't answer this question)Quote (chosenone @ June 25 2007,14:18) Nick.
This is an example of what Paul thought of his past, under the “law”. He now thinks of it as “refuse” (garbage). Now under “grace”, he trusts in “Christ”. The Law was abolished!4 And am I having confidence in flesh, also? If any other one is presuming to have confidence in flesh, I rather:
5 in circumcision the eighth day, of the race of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews, in relation to law, a Pharisee,
6 in relation to zeal, persecuting the ecclesia, in relation to the righteousness which is in law, becoming blameless.
7 But things which were gain to me, these I have deemed a forfeit because of Christ.
8 But, to be sure, I am also deeming all to be a forfeit because of the superiority of the knowledge of Christ Jesus, my Lord, because of Whom I forfeited all, and am deeming it to be refuse, that I should be gaining Christ,
9 and may be found in Him, not having my righteousness, which is of law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is from God for faith:Blessings.
Which Law CO?Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God,[WHY?] neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.1Co 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
IHN&L,
Ken
hi Chosenone..> the repentance Peter was talking about on the day the holy spirit was poured out was the repentance of unbelieve, remember the people did not believe Jesus was the messiah.
Peter was not talking about repentance of there personal sins because he went on to say and be babtised for the remission of sins.
remission means not to nassarely remove but to inactivate like cancer does when it goes into remission .
we are told if we have a sin to go to God the Father with it and He is fathfull to forgive it and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. God The Father is the ONLY true forgiver and cleanser He can do it through any one he chooses. But it all boiles down to HIM> The ONLY true GOD.
Paul said it right when he said he wanted to do good but at the same time he found sin was still in him saying “who can delever me from this body of death,” thank GOD through Christ he will be delieverd .
beening cleansed is a life time process.
pease to you chosenone…..Gene
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