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Proclaimer: Whilst I am very suspicious of mainstream media in general, it is probably way more balanced than what you report Mike.
Interesting that you are suspicious of MSM – but consider it more credible than the data I show that goes against the MSM narrative. You must know by now that the MSM has a vested interest in promoting these injections, and put a pro-vax spin on any news that goes against their narrative – if they report on it at all, right?
You’ll wake up eventually, because the attack is happening right before our eyes. Like Adam, who’s coming around to the truth of WHY there was an MSM campaign of mass fear porn against HCQ and Ivermectin when the actual data says they are both safe and very effective against Covid 19, you’ll eventually have no choice but to concede that the “conspiracy theorists” were the ones telling it like it is.
Btw, the term “conspiracy theorist” was concocted by the CIA after THEY murdered President Kennedy. Just like today, the CIA (who controls the MSM [research Operation Mockingbird]) orchestrated an MSM campaign of spreading the term “conspiracy theorist”, and suggesting that these people were tinfoil hat-wearing nutjobs who belonged in a mental hospital – in an attempt to prevent truth seekers from asking too many questions about the “official narrative” of Kennedy’s assassination.
George Bush (who directed the assassination of Kennedy) used the same playbook right after the CIA orchestrated the destruction of the towers on 9-11. Knowing that the “official narrative” was full of holes, he immediately urged the public in a national address to not fall for any of the “conspiracy theories” that were floating around concerning the twin towers.
They use the terms “racist” and “white nationalist” the same way today. You like Trump? You’re automatically a white nationalist racist. You want to see America succeed? That’s only because you’re a white nationalist racist! You want free and fair elections where only citizens can vote? You’re a pathetic white nationalist racist – even if your skin color is brown!
Sadly, many gullible people still believe that our leaders have our best interests in mind – and so they fall for this psychological propaganda. After all, you don’t have to debate me on the FACTS when you can just label me as a “drug-addled tinfoil hat-wearing conspiracy theorist” – which automatically makes you right and me wrong, right?
Proclaimer: Hilarious. When I look around me, I do a sweeping 360 degree view. Above me is God. Inside me is God too. You see the flat earth in the same way some see the Trinity.
A sphere is a 3D circle. The circle of the earth is suppose to be the no1 biblical proof for a flat earth. This means that the bible doesn’t teach a flat earth because the no1 verse failed miserably. Imagine then how bad no2 or no3 verses must be.
Your responses continue to be just a lot of unmerited chest thumping – as if you’ve won something that you haven’t even begun to compete for.
Tell us why Jesus said God drew a circle on the face of the deep. Tell us why Isaiah not only described the earth as a circle, but also described the heavens like a tent over that circle – when there is no such thing as a spherical tent.
Once you come up with some valid arguments that reconcile your worldview with these scriptural descriptions, we can talk more about trees and mountains that can be seen from everywhere on earth; and about foundations and pillars that keep God’s earth stationary so that it cannot be moved; and even about the scriptural teachings that the sun, moon, and stars run on God-appointed circuits over our stationary earth. Heck, we might even get to the teaching that the sun wasn’t even created until four days (four evenings and mornings) after the earth was formed.
In other words, how about you actually defeat “the no1 verse” before claiming victory over other ones? Thanks.
And just another reminder: This is not a discussion of the shape of the earth in actuality – but only about what the Bible teaches concerning it.
Proclaimer: I am pointing out evil people are deceived and they in turn deceive.
You constantly attribute this “lying” and “deceiving” quality to me, and to anyone else who disagrees with you. And your current explanation that I and these others are deceiving people because we don’t even realize that we are EVIL and have ourselves been deceived somehow doesn’t make me feel better. 😁 Case in point…
Proclaimer: I first saw this sort of thing with Trinitrarians where they outright rejected scripture that was given to them. Pride made them stick to the doctrine they were familiar with or brought up with and not even scripture could convince them otherwise. I have seen similar behaviour with pre-existence, flat earth, and atheism.
I believe that there is ample evidence that Jesus is the son, servant, priest, word (preeminent spokesman), messiah and sacrificial lamb of God (not the Most High God Himself). I believe that there is ample evidence that Jesus preexisted as a spirit entity before he emptied himself and took on flesh. I believe that there is ample evidence for the existence of God in the things that God has made, and find it alarming that so many people have come to believe that our precisely tuned world and the extremely complicated creatures that dwell in it were the result of accidental random chance events. And I believe there is ample evidence that we live on a flat and stationary earth with a heaven-dome covering us like a tent – as opposed to a spinning water ball that is “subservient” to a sun that wasn’t even created until four days later.
I believe that the majority of people who don’t believe as I do are as sincere in their beliefs as I am in mine – not that they are purposely trying to deceive others, or that God has allowed them to be deceived because they are evil while I am righteous.
I believe that you are fighting like crazy to avoid the inevitable conclusion that the Bible is a flat earth book. I don’t believe you are doing it to purposely deceive others, but because you truly believe we live on a spinning water ball while also truly believing in the scriptures – and you’re trying your best to reconcile those two contradictory beliefs in spite of the evidence. I believe you do the same thing when it comes to the age of the earth – which is scripturally about 6000 years.
I believe deception by the dark forces who control this fallen world play a big part for those who believe in big bang, billions of years, common descent evolution, heliocentrism, Trinitarianism, and atheism. But I don’t believe that God has allowed this deception because those particular people are inherently more evil than I am. And I do believe that if the people suffering from these deceptions were to simply BELIEVE the words of scripture as they are written, they would overcome the deception.
I believe that I am fairly good at presenting this evidence in ways that most people can understand, and that this is all I can do. I attempt to lead the metaphorical horses to the water, knowing in advance that I’ll never be able to force them to drink it, but always hopeful that they will. Occasionally I’m successful.
Gene: Mike……I agree with that, we all are a work in progress, until we all grow up to the measure and full stature of Christ Jesus. That is why I always end with the words “peace and love to you and yours” , it’s because I know what you said in your last post is true brother.
peace and love to you and yours Mike……….gene
Amen Gene! I would still like your input on whether or not the Bible is a flat earth book. It certainly doesn’t teach that we live on a spinning water ball that is nothing but an “insignificant pale blue dot” (per Carl Sagan), right?
Adam: I think brother Mike may be right in his repeated attempts to convince us about Ivermectin. I am also slowly understanding the truth behind this miracle drug as we Indians unknowingly administering this drug to our people during this Pandemic.
Occasionally I’m successful. 🙏
1. Two major Indian newspapers did huge articles on the amazing success of Utter Pradesh. One word that was never mentioned in either article was “Ivermectin”. I wonder why.
2. The worldwide MSM won’t even cover the story of a state of 210 million people miraculously eradicating Covid 19 at all. I wonder why.
3. (Japan and some other nations have also virtually eradicated Covid 19 via Ivermectin.)
Mike: Remember, we’re not discussing whether or not the earth is a spinning ball in actuality right now. We’re only discussing whether or not the Bible teaches that the earth is a spinning ball. Does it?
Adam: Yes this is what I am also agreeing with you Mike.
I just hope that someday Proclaimer will stop telling lies and apologize for deceiving everyone. Of course it’s not entirely his fault. Because he is evil and filled with pride, God has allowed him to be deceived, so he might not even know that he’s lying to everyone. 😉
(How’s that feel, Proclaimer? I just paraphrased the same words you often use against me.)
They want a world with only 500 million “worthless eaters”. That means billions of us have to go. (Search and read the “Georgia Guidestones” for starters.)
What will your magic number be, Proclaimer? How many boosters are you willing to get as a plea for your overlords to not take any more of your God-given freedoms away from you?
That’s 4 Kiwis that are known (or that they are admitting to) so far. And for what? A common cold with a 99.5% survivability rate? So sad… especially the 13 year old with his whole life ahead of him.
90 days after the vax, people are MORE likely to contract Covid. That’s because the vax actually promotes something called ADE (antibody dependence enhancement). It makes people MORE likely to suffer from things that would have been an unnoticeable case of the sniffles if they hadn’t gotten vaxxed. Fortunately…
1. Omicron is harmless – so no worries there.
2. Most of the vaxxed got placebos, and are actually as unvaxxed as I am. They couldn’t unleash the real poison on everyone at once, or the sheer amount of vaxxed people dying shortly after being injected would have stopped everyone else from taking it. People have already tracked which batches contained the poison. (All of the adverse reactions appear to come from only a few specific batches.) But I suggest you steer clear of the boosters. You’re not going to roll a lucky seven every time, right?
Miia, here’s Alex Jones letting the cat out of the bag 12 years ago. In 2009, this doctor exposed their plan for what’s happening today. (I don’t like these sensationalistic presentations with all the scary music and jumping images, but the info is right in line with what’s currently going on.)
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