Confusions

[karmarie]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 08 2010,03:44)

Kermarie………..Your first part i do agree with the spirit does produce feeling and emotions in us through given us the intellect or knowledge that drives those emotions and feelings. But you need to be very careful about those who claim clairvoyance they can mislead you and we are told to avoid those that have familiar spirits.  Be careful Kermarie. IMO peace and love to you and yours……………………….gene

Sorry Gene that I never answered this. The friend I had only saw something to do with the birth of my son thats all, something good. She had the gift of discernment when praying with people which is mentioned in acts. Thanks for your advice though Gene.

[GeneBalthrop]

TO ALL…………..I am going to move subject matter to the confusion of not being specific on subjects. I think this is causing lots of confusion Here as when a person ask a specific question and receives no specific answer, but is diverted into all kinds of directions of subject and even into personal assaults, on Character. When people do that it causes a spread in the flow of a question. If we could develop a system of system of preventing this from happening it would greatly enhance our chances of getting out point understood.

Here is something we may consider , If a specific question is asked and the person does not specifically answer it the His response should be deleted from the topic. There are to many generalities being used Here and they simply divert the threads to different directions. IMO

What do the rest of you think we can do to better improve our communications with each other”

Peace and lvoe to you all……………………..gene

[Ed J]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 16 2010,01:57)

TO ALL…………..I am going to move subject matter to the confusion of not being specific on subjects. I think this is causing lots of confusion Here as when a person ask a specific question and receives no specific answer, but is diverted into all kinds of directions of subject and even into personal assaults, on Character.  When people do that it causes a spread in the flow of a question. If we could develop a system of system of preventing this from happening it would greatly enhance  our chances of getting out point understood. Here is something we may consider , If a specific question is asked and the person does not specifically answer it the His response should be deleted from the topic.  There are to many generalities being used Here and they simply divert the threads to different directions.  IMO What do the rest of you think we can do to better improve our communications with each other” Peace and lvoe to you all……………………..gene

Hi Gene,

It would help to “only” make one specific point per Post,
rather than 'you' try to control the “Free Will” of others!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[RokkaMan]

Definition of Intellect – the power or faculty of the mind by which one knows or understands, as distinguished from that by which one feels and that by which one wills; the understanding; the faculty of thinking and acquiring knowledge.

This makes anything a spirit. Even an idol can become a spirit according to the definition of intellect.

Do we know this spirit to be real and alive?

No, absolutely not.

Only as real as the dellusional thinker makes it out to be.

—–

I personally would not limit God your father to such a poor description.

[GeneBalthrop]

ED J………..You are doing exactly what i am talking about, posting all kinds of Scriptures the do not (SPECIFICALLY ) Answer the question put to you . Example…> I ask you and Terricca to produce (ONE) scripture that said ” WE HAVE A “FREE” WILL (IN) US. You both have posted everything but a Scripture that say we have a freewill (IN) Us , You only divert into all kind of inferred support but NOT ONE SCRIPTURE that answers that question. And in stead of saying you cant find any, and at least being honest about the question ask, you divert of into all kinds of non (SPECIFIC) quotations. So there is not even least of the matter resolved, just more confusions and diversions from the main questions, this is dishonest on you part and only shows your PRIDE and Lack of acquiring any true understanding or you would simply answer the question presented to you from (ONE) Scripture that (SPECIFICALLY) answers that question ask you, or just admit there is non, either way at least that specific question is answered.

This is the point i am trying to make here. We need to stop trying to over whelm a subject by posting all kinds of NON SPECIFIC Scriptures that does not answer the (SPECIFIC) Questions ask. I have see Chosenone and martian and Jodi as well as others ask for this same thing and no response to them, just accusers and no proofs given at all. You and Terraricca and JA and Nick and others do the same things. Accusing but producing NO Proof to Specific Questions, only evasive answers. In this the statement is true you can't corner a snake in a bier path. He has to many places to go.

So If there is going to be any (TRUE) dialogs Here ever, then (SPECIFIC) question must be addressed not diverted into other things. What is wrong with saying I simply do not know or am not sure at least Kerwin and T8, Karmaire will admit this at times. WE need to all do this more and perhaps we can grow more in understanding about subjects being discussed here.

If T8 could come up with some method of doing this it would save a lot of confusion and diversions here, If he could cause this to happen or if we all would just stop responding to posts the do not answer a Specific Question ask that might work. I have ask about twenty or thirty time FOR a SPECIFIC Scripture that say something. And never had (ONE) answered Here. Is there any wonder why we can't come to a unity of the Spirit here with all this going on , it only causes people to get discourage and quote posting as i have seen many do. If we are not producing positive growth here then we are failing each other as well as the What God would want from us.. IMO

peace and love…………………..gene

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 17 2010,09:29)

ED J………..You are doing exactly what i am talking about, posting  all kinds of Scriptures the do not (SPECIFICALLY ) Answer the question put to you . Example…> I ask you and Terricca to produce (ONE) scripture that said ” WE HAVE A “FREE” WILL (IN) US. You both have posted everything but a Scripture that say we have a freewill (IN) Us , You only divert into all kind of inferred support but NOT ONE SCRIPTURE that answers that question. And in stead of saying you cant find any, and at least being honest about the question ask,  you divert of into all kinds of non (SPECIFIC) quotations.  So there is not even least of the matter resolved, just more confusions and diversions from the main questions, this is  dishonest on you part and only shows your PRIDE and Lack of acquiring any true understanding or you would simply answer the question presented to you from (ONE) Scripture that (SPECIFICALLY) answers that question ask you, or just admit there is non, either way at least that specific question is answered. This is the point i am trying to make here. We need to stop trying to over whelm a subject by posting all kinds of NON SPECIFIC Scriptures that does not answer the (SPECIFIC) Questions ask. I have see Chosenone and martian and Jodi as well as others ask for this same thing and no response to them, just accusers and no proofs given at all. You and Terraricca and JA and Nick and others do the same things. Accusing but producing NO Proof to Specific Questions, only evasive answers. In this the statement is true you can't corner a snake in a bier path. He has to many places to go. So If there is going to be any (TRUE) dialogs Here ever,  then (SPECIFIC) question must be addressed not diverted into other things. What is wrong with saying I simply do not know or am not sure at least Kerwin and T8, Karmaire  will admit this at times. WE need to all do this more and perhaps we can grow more in understanding about subjects being discussed here. If T8 could come up with some method of doing this it would save a lot of confusion and diversions here, If he could cause this to happen or if we all would just stop responding to posts the do not answer a Specific Question ask that might work.  I have ask about twenty or thirty time FOR a SPECIFIC Scripture that say something. And never had (ONE) answered Here. Is there any wonder why we can't come to a unity of the Spirit here with all this going on , it only causes people to get discourage and quote posting as i have seen many do. If we are not producing positive growth here then we are failing each other as well as the What God would want from us.. IMO peace and love…………………..gene

gene

you definitely have your own free will wen it comes to do your ways,no doubt about.

Pierre

[GeneBalthrop]

Terraricca………..Again see you are a perfect example of what i am talking about, Can't answer a question presented , just spew out some negative or meaningless response , unless the post agrees with you. That is what is the main cause of confusion on this site an inability to be (Specific) when ask a question. IMO.

peace and love……………………………gene

[Ed J]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 17 2010,02:29)

ED J………..Example…> I ask you and Terricca to produce (ONE) scripture that said ” WE HAVE A “FREE” WILL (IN) US. peace and love…………………..gene

Hi Gene,

You really do need to drop the confusion Gene!
Here the verses for you (which according to Gene there are none?)….

Lev.22:18 Speak unto Aaron, and to his sons, and unto all the children of Israel, and say unto them,
Whatsoever he be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers in Israel, that will offer his oblation
for all his vows, and for all his freewill offerings, which they will offer unto the LORD for a burnt offering;

Lev.23:38 Beside the sabbaths of the LORD, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows,
and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the LORD.

Numbers 29:39 These things ye shall do unto the LORD in your set feasts, beside your vows,
and your freewill offerings, for your burnt offerings, and for your meat offerings,
and for your drink offerings, and for your peace offerings.

Deut.12:6 And thither ye shall bring your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, and your tithes, and heave offerings
of your hand, and your vows, and your freewill offerings, and the firstlings of your herds and of your flocks:

Deut.12:17 Thou mayest not eat within thy gates the tithe of thy corn, or of thy wine,
or of thy oil, or the firstlings of thy herds or of thy flock, nor any of thy vows which thou vowest,
nor thy freewill offerings, or heave offering of thine hand:

Ezre 7:13 I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and of his priests and Levites,
in my realm, which are minded of their own freewill to go up to Jerusalem, go with thee.

1Cor.7:37 Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity,
but hath power over HIS OWN WILL, and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well.

1Cor.9:17-19 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will,
a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me. What is my reward then? Verily that,
when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge, that I abuse not my power
in the gospel. For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.

Heb.10:26-27 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth,
there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for
of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

Ed J

[terraricca]

edj

good work i am sure GENE will appreciate this

Pierre

[GeneBalthrop]

ED J………….O Really and yet not (ONE) Verse that say we all Have a “FREE” WILL (IN) US. It is easy to understand your and Terriccas confusions , you both can't even answer (ONE) simple question Honestly.

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 17 2010,23:56)

ED J………….O Really and yet not (ONE) Verse that say we all Have a “FREE” WILL (IN) US. It is easy to understand your and Terriccas confusions , you both can't even answer (ONE) simple question Honestly.

gene

look at what the devil does to JOB ,you have the same conversation that the devil has with God about JOB,and were GOD says to the devil ;it is in vain that you tempt JOB

Job 2:3 Then the LORD said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil. And he still maintains his integrity, though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason.”

you try to convinced others of you misguided way

Pierre

[GeneBalthrop]

Terraricca……….So say you, but you don't even understand that it was GOD who brought all that Evil on Job Not some being you think ios in control of GOD and Job. Read the last part of Job and maybe you might gain so understanding who brought the Evil on Job. And in fact it is your accusation that better fit you Satan you speak of by Far . IMO

gene

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 18 2010,00:13)

Terraricca……….So say you, but you don't even understand that it was GOD who brought all that Evil on Job Not some being you think ios in control of GOD and Job. Read the last part of Job and maybe you might gain so understanding who brought the Evil on Job. And in fact it is your accusation that better fit you Satan you speak of by Far . IMO gene

gene

God did not bring the wickedness to Job it was Satan ,Satan challenge God on JOB ways of live,he is the killer,

but you have your own way ,your own fantasy,and your own interpretation ,i could guess were you got it from.

Pierre

[GeneBalthrop]

Terricca……….So to you God is playing games with us every time your Satan makes any Challenge to him , then we are pons in the game of Chance and it really about your Satan and GOD . Pure garbage God is in total control of (ALL) things . I have shown you this before but will again Just so you can get your head straight on this.

Job 42:11…..> Then came there unto Him all his brethern, and all his sisters, and all they that had been his acquaintance before and did eat bread with him in his house: and they bemoaned him, and comforted him over (ALL) THE (EVIL) THE LORD HAD BROUGHT UPON HIM.

But i realize you will not even acknowledge these scriptures because truth is not your real goal here. IMO

peace and love………………………gene

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 18 2010,07:40)

Terricca……….So to you God is playing games with us every time your Satan makes any Challenge to him , then we are pons in the game of Chance and it really about your Satan and GOD . Pure garbage God is in total control of (ALL) things . I have shown you this before but will again Just so you can get your head straight on this. Job 42:11…..> Then came there unto Him all his brethern, and all his sisters, and all they that had been his acquaintance before and did eat bread with him in his house: and they bemoaned him, and comforted him over (ALL) THE (EVIL) THE LORD HAD BROUGHT UPON HIM. But i realize you will not even acknowledge these scriptures because truth is not your real goal here. IMO peace and  love………………………gene

gene

like always you do not understand Job story,just the letter and do not see reality of the spirit.

to you it is ok to call God wicket and someone who can make you go trough all bad things.NOT ME,

if your God is LOVE like MINE then you should change your understanding.and look for GOD S truth.not yours.

Pierre

[GeneBalthrop]

terraricca………..Again you refuse to address the quoted scriptures , just mouthing off with all kind of accusations and lies about what i said or did no say. Your MO never changes does it.

gene

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 18 2010,21:55)

terraricca………..Again you refuse to address the quoted scriptures , just mouthing off with all kind of accusations and lies about what i said or did no say. Your MO never changes does it. gene

gene

no one can change someone who willingly serves another god than the true God the father of Christ ,you are serving the purpose of the other god he also believe falsely and now tremble for his out come will be disastrous,

you have many false believes and interpretation who are not accepted in the spirit of scriptures the word of God.

look at the truth of scriptures not your own ways.

your own ways will destroy you,change.

Pierre

[GeneBalthrop]

Terraricca……………..More of your gibberish, and (NO) explanations or answers , just your work for your father the accuser of the brethren, who is at work (IN) you. You accuse other of being what you in fact are. You remind me of what Peter said ” Which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the others Scriptures, unto their own destruction. But He told us to ” beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, and fall from your own steadfastness. And believe me i am fully aware of you errors and will not fall from my own steadfastness i have In GOD the FATHER and Jesus Christ. IMO

gene

[terraricca]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 19 2010,08:41)

Terraricca……………..More of your gibberish, and (NO) explanations or answers , just your work for your father the accuser of the brethren, who is at work (IN) you. You accuse other of being what you in fact are. You remind me of what Peter said ” Which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the others Scriptures, unto their own destruction. But He told us to ” beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, and fall from your own steadfastness. And believe me i am fully aware of you errors and will not fall from my own steadfastness i have In GOD the FATHER and Jesus Christ. IMO gene

gene

you forgot this scripture;Jn 8:42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me.

Jn 14:15 “If you love me, you will obey what I command.
Jn 14:24 He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

it is the glory of Christ that is important not yours,

Pierre

[Ed J]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 17 2010,16:56)

ED J………….O Really and yet not (ONE) Verse that say we all Have a “FREE” WILL (IN) US. It is easy to understand your and Terriccas confusions , you both can't even answer (ONE) simple question Honestly.

Hi Gene,

Where is the “Free Will” coming from if not from (IN) us?

Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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