Christianity is Hopelessly Confused

[bodhitharta]

HI EDJ

Hi BD,

Do you consider this being merciful…

quran 4,56
‘(As for) those who disbelieve in Our communications, We shall make them enter fire;
so oft as their skins are thoroughly burned, We will change them for other skins,
that they may taste the chastisement; surely Allah is Mighty, Wise.’

yes or no?

No

[bodhitharta]

Is the man who follows the good pleasure of Allah Like the man who draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and whose abode is in hell?- A woeful refuge!

( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #162)

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,

How is it that men spend time concocting such stuff?

[bodhitharta]

He said: “What! Even if I brought you better guidance than that which ye found your fathers following?” they said: “For us, we deny that ye (prophets) are sent (on a mission at all).”

( سورة الزخرف , Az-Zukhruf, Chapter #43, Verse #24)

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,

So misguided.

Can you see through this stuff yet?

[Ed J]

HI EDJ

Hi BD,

Do you consider this being merciful…

quran 4,56
‘(As for) those who disbelieve in Our communications, We shall make them enter fire;
so oft as their skins are thoroughly burned, We will change them for other skins,
that they may taste the chastisement; surely Allah is Mighty, Wise.’

yes or no?

No

Hi BD,

You’re gaining my respect Mr. Boditharta,
I didn’t think you had it in you to answer “no”.
Torture is obviously is the opposite of being merciful.

Heck, maybe you actually believe the doctrine you are proselytizing.
But what surprises and puzzles me though, is you seem to not be able to
see the obvious contradictions that some of us have been pointing out to you.

At least NOW you’re beginning to see the continuity of “the Bible”.
Here within God’s seven feasts: God has encoded the “Gospel”.
There is no mistaking this FACT when you clearly see it laid out in front of you…

1. The Passover (Pesach) – Nisan 14-15 (Leviticus 23:5)………………Passover is the feast of (יה) YÄ’s Salvation.
2. Unleavened Bread (Chag Hamotzi) – Nisan 15-22 (Levi.23:6)……Unleavened Bread is Jesus, the bread of life.
3. First Fruits (Yom Habikkurim) – Nisan 16-17 (Leviticus 23:10)..First Fruits is the resurrection, victory over death.

4. Pentecost (Shavu’ot) – Sivan 6-7 (Leviticus 23:16)……Pentecost is God’s Spirit given to indwell in Mankind.
5. Trumpets (Yom Teru’ah) – Tishri 1 (Leviticus 23:24)…..Trumpets is our proclamation of liberty through faith.
6. Atonement (Yom Kippur) – Tishri 10 (Leviticus 23:27)…..is Jesus’ atoning sacrifice for our sins upon (†) a cross.
7. Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot) – Tishri 15-22 (Lev.23:34)……..is the Feast of our ingathering unto YHVH our GOD.

Chanaukah symbolizes repentance
– re-dedication of our life unto YHVH our GOD (יהוה האלהים YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm).

This is *WHY* God’s inspired word says we have a more sure word of Prophecy – YHVH is GOD!

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God bless
Ed J

[Ed J]

These three – all are REQUIRED to attend!

1. The Passover (Pesach) – Nisan 14-15 (Leviticus 23:5)……The Passover is the feast of (יה) YÄ’s Salvation.
2. Pentecost (Shavu’ot) – Sivan 6-7 (Leviticus 23:16)………..…Pentecost is God’s Spirit given to indwell in Man.
3. Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot) – Tishri 15-22 (Lev.23:34)……Feast of booths is our ingathering to YHVH our GOD

You can clearly see that there is no ingathering (for you), BUT what you don’t see the absence of the spirit.
You cannot see this, because you refuse God’s atoning sacrifice for your sins by Jesus on (†) a cross.

But what you don’t get yet is this – you are required to attend.
You may know what I’m talking about, but I will explain it
all for you in the what does Ed J believe thread.

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God bless
Ed J

[bodhitharta]

I have no issue with anything you have written I just think the perspective would be different because Ya’s salvation would still leave with the idea that God saved Jesus as in Passover and the scapegoat in the day of atonement.

Torture or severe punishment is the opposite of Merciful, God does not have an obligation to be Merciful He can do what He pleases such as in the case of Job, I’m sure most people would have preferred to simply die rather than to be tormented and destroyed, however at the end of the day that was the choice God made. So if a person neglects to believe in God or even worse curse God their torment is their own doing otherwise good is the same as evil, Do good and be good for good results and do evil and be evil for evil results.

When We make mankind taste of some mercy after adversity hath touched them, behold! they take to plotting against Our Signs! Say: “Swifter to plan is Allah!” Verily, Our messengers record all the plots that ye make!

( سورة يونس , Yunus, Chapter #10, Verse #21)

Every soul shall have a taste of death: And only on the Day of Judgment shall you be paid your full recompense. Only he who is saved far from the Fire and admitted to the Garden will have attained the object (of Life): For the life of this world is but goods and chattels of deception.

( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #185)

[Ed J]

Hi BD, You clearly have a problem with #6 – do you not?

6. Atonement (Yom Kippur) – Tishri 10 (Leviticus 23:27)…..is Jesus’ atoning sacrifice for our sins upon (†) a cross.

[bodhitharta]

Hi EDJ

Hi BD, You clearly have a problem with #6 – do you not?

6. Atonement (Yom Kippur) – Tishri 10 (Leviticus 23:27)…..is Jesus’ atoning sacrifice for our sins upon (†) a cross.

I just think you have the concept wrong first of all here is an important issue

Leviticus 23

26The LORD spoke to Moses, saying, 27″On exactly the tenth day of this seventh month is the day of atonement; it shall be a holy convocation for you, and you shall humble your souls and present an offering by fire to the LORD.

Jesus wasn’t burnt on the cross was he? so here is a better solution for atonement

Leviticus 16

21And Aaron shall lay both his hands on the head of the live goat, and confess over it all the iniquities of the people of Israel, and all their transgressions, all their sins. And he shall put them on the head of the goat and send it away into the wilderness by the hand of a man who is in readiness.

22The goat shall bear all their iniquities on itself to a remote area, and he shall let the goat go free in the wilderness.

Mathew 11:11 Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

Matthew 4:1 Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.

[Ed J]

Hi BD,

1. The Passover (Pesach) – Nisan 14-15 (Leviticus 23:5)……The Passover is the feast of (יה) YÄ’s Salvation.
2. Pentecost (Shavu’ot) – Sivan 6-7 (Leviticus 23:16)………..…Pentecost is God’s Spirit given to indwell in Man.
3. Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot) – Tishri 15-22 (Lev.23:34)……Feast of booths is our ingathering to YHVH our GOD

Something to note:

1. The Passover(148) = Jesus (†) cross(148)
2. Pentecost(117) = God the Father(117)
3. Feast of booths(151) = HolySpirit(151)

Hey wow look at that “The Trinity”(148) is encoded in the feasts as well.
Well lookie-here – trinitarians would love this info. But I got news for you,

The “Oneness of God”(117) is bigger than “The Trinity” idea, “The Trinity” was
a tactic of “God the Father” to extract Lucifer from “The Godhead” (ref. Isa 14:19)

I realize it’s like Chinese to you, because you don’t understand SPIRIT.
But be of good cheer (if you are willing) I can help.

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God bless
Ed J

[Ed J]

Remember, YOU are required to attend!

[Ed J]

Hi EDJ

Hi BD, You clearly have a problem with #6 – do you not?

6. Atonement (Yom Kippur) – Tishri 10 (Leviticus 23:27)…..is Jesus’ atoning sacrifice for our sins upon (†) a cross.

I just think you have the concept wrong first of all here is an important issue

Leviticus 23

26The LORD spoke to Moses, saying, 27″On exactly the tenth day of this seventh month is the day of atonement; it shall be a holy convocation for you, and you shall humble your souls and present an offering by fire to the LORD.

Jesus wasn’t burnt on the cross was he?

“I just think you have the concept wrong” – BD
Your words apply to you and I will explain why.

shall humble your souls and present an offering by fire
Jesus is the offering by fire, this is what you must present (ref. Romans 10:10)

Lamentations means: what, where, how

What? ……God is the fire (Heb 12:29)
Where? .…Jesus’ death on calvary’s cross (John 3:16)
How? ……By the Lord Jesus Christ we receive atonement for our sins (Romans 5:11)

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God bless
Ed J

[bodhitharta]

“I just think you have the concept wrong” – BD
Your words apply to you and I will explain why.

shall humble your souls and present an offering by fire
Jesus is the offering by fire, this is what you must present (ref. Romans 10:10)

Lamentations means: what, where, how

What? ……God is the fire (Heb 12:29)
Where? .…Jesus’ death on calvary’s cross (John 3:16)
How? ……By the Lord Jesus Christ we receive atonement for our sins (Romans 5:11)

again, what I see here is an attempt to make pieces fit that are not logical for Jesus was not consumed and if according to the scriptures he was resurrected then nothing was sacrificed at all I don’t object that Jesus can intercede for you to receive atonement but the very fact that Jesus will intercede or mediate for you on the day of Judgement would mean your atonement is not complete until then, which is why he says “not everyone who says “lord, lord” will enter the Kingdom of Heaven”

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,

No you are wrong.

The whole of the holy scriptures attest to the death of the Son of God.

 

Your witness is useless.

 

You have no intercessor so how will you fare?

[Ed J]

Hi BD,

Here’s another encoding for you:

“And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the LORD had commanded: and
Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent.

Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt,
they also did in like manner with their enchantments. For they cast down every man his rod,
and they became serpents: but Aaron’s rod swallowed up their rods. And he hardened Pharaoh’s
heart, that he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had said.” (Exodus 7:10-13)

Do you know the meaning of this verse, why it’s in the bible?
or would you like me to explain what the encoded message is?

____________
God bless
Ed J

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,

You are wrong.

Logic is not the final arbiter of the spiritual words of Scripture.

 

BTW the Kingdom of heaven is on earth as well as in heaven. Mt 6.10

It is where the King rules, and you can enter today.

Repent.

[Ed J]

“I just think you have the concept wrong” – BD
Your words apply to you and I will explain why.

shall humble your souls and present an offering by fire
Jesus is the offering by fire, this is what you must present (ref. Romans 10:10)

Lamentations means: what, where, how

What? ……God is the fire (Heb 12:29)
Where? .…Jesus’ death on calvary’s cross (John 3:16)
How? ……By the Lord Jesus Christ we receive atonement for our sins (Romans 5:11)

again, what I see here is an attempt to make pieces fit that are not logical for Jesus was not consumed and if according to the scriptures he was resurrected then nothing was sacrificed at all I don’t object that Jesus can intercede for you to receive atonement but the very fact that Jesus will intercede or mediate for you on the day of Judgement would mean your atonement is not complete until then, which is why he says “not everyone who says “lord, lord” will enter the Kingdom of Heaven”

Hi BD,

You say “no”? …I offer you proof…

“And he shewed me YA-shu-a (Jesus) the high priest standing before the angel of the LORD,
and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him. And the LORD said unto Satan,
The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee:
is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?” (Zech 3:1-2)

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,

Can you accept this verse from the Scriptures?

“Be ye perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect”

 

Do you know what those standards are?

A man was struck dead for trying to stop the ark from falling off the cart acrrying it.

We do not

That is why the psalmist pleads for forgiveness for unknown sins.

Do we sin daily?

yep.

And we need an intercessor.

 

Should we revert to fear?

Rom8.15

1 Jn 15-10

rom 8.26-27

 

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,

When God sees us it is best that we are hidden under the robe of righteousness of His Son whom He loves.

otherwise we are as Joshua in Zech 3 at best

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