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- May 3, 2015 at 10:34 am#796227NickHassanParticipant
Hi BD,
Read the scriptures.
You do not need to remain ignorant.
May 3, 2015 at 10:36 am#796228NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
And after you have read of his teaching, his healings and other miracles such as raising the dead please show us what your leaders have done.
We know about your dog but have they raised the dead too?
May 3, 2015 at 11:00 am#796229bodhithartaParticipantHi @Nick
Hi BD,
And after you have read of his teaching, his healings and other miracles such as raising the dead please show us what your leaders have done.
We know about your dog but have they raised the dead too?
first of all God has allowed me to do many miracles but that is never the point is it? I can even talk about Miracles of others including Muhammad but even that is not the point
1 Corinthians 13:8-13Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
This is ISLAM
May 3, 2015 at 11:48 am#796235NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
You think Islam is known for her heartfelt charity?
No she is known for her bloodthirsty ways.
A spiritually powerless belief system
2tim3.5
“..having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof; from such turn away”
May 3, 2015 at 3:00 pm#796243bodhithartaParticipantHi BD,
You think Islam is known for her heartfelt charity?
No she is known for her bloodthirsty ways.
A spiritually powerless belief system
2tim3.5
“..having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof; from such turn away”
Obviously know Muslim denies the power of God so it seems to me you are doing a divinity sneak trying to insert Jesus for God? Nick you like many others here simply don’t realize they are worshipers of Jesus. No matter how much I glorify God you believe only glorifying Jesus means anything your entire interpretation of God is how you see Jesus….so to you Jesus is The Father because when you see him that’s who you see, right?
May 3, 2015 at 3:03 pm#796246NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
God was in him reconciling the world to Himself.
My Lord AND my God.
It should be able to be said about you
“God is at work in you to will and to do”
but you left the Shepherd for another.
May 3, 2015 at 4:28 pm#796249bodhithartaParticipantHi Nick
Hi BD,
God was in him reconciling the world to Himself.
My Lord AND my God.
It should be able to be said about you
“God is at work in you to will and to do”
but you left the Shepherd for another
then why do you detest me worshiping God?
Who is your lord? Is it Jesus or The Lord God? Or do you have two lords?
May 3, 2015 at 4:33 pm#796250NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
detest you?
No it is a loving thing to pull a brand out of the fire.
We have one Almighty God and our Lord Jesus.
Why do you mock them and the scriptures?
May 3, 2015 at 5:32 pm#796251bodhithartaParticipantso God Almighty is not your Lord? then there is our difference God Almighty is my Lord and this is what Jesus says:
Mark 12:29
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:Most don’t really listen to Jesus they mostly look at Jesus so again I prefer The Lord our God but you have taken his Christ as your lord
May 3, 2015 at 5:38 pm#796252bodhithartaParticipantBut the Quran says that as well
They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah: there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).
( سورة التوبة , At-Taubah, Chapter #9, Verse #31)
And that is from the Quran confirming what I just told you Jesus stated:
Mark 12:29
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:Now Jesus told you who was your lord will you now listen?
May 3, 2015 at 6:41 pm#796255NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
You book tries to look authentic by copying many things.
Do you not accept the lordship of the Son of God?
Jesus was sent to the chosen people.
You hate them and are not one of them so why would you listen to this verse?
May 4, 2015 at 12:32 am#796267princessParticipantThank you Bodhitharta. Mine-dreams, visions. some have been blunt force trauma!
So Nick, Edj since Bodhitharta’s view is incorrect on the holy spirit what is yours?
May 4, 2015 at 12:38 am#796268princessParticipantInspiration , no matter how overwhelming, can come from a variety of sources.
Yes Nick it can, do you know how to discern?
God is far more interested in us producing good fruit than gaining knowledge.
Wisdom will only produce good fruit.May 4, 2015 at 3:22 am#796272bodhithartaParticipantHi Nick
Hi BD,
You book tries to look authentic by copying many things.
Do you not accept the lordship of the Son of God?
Jesus was sent to the chosen people.
You hate them and are not one of them so why would you listen to this verse?
Actually I don’t hate anyone but you have it wrong they were not the chosen people they were the Chosen people to carry the message of God and be a light unto all nations but instead they kept the message for themselves and corrupted other parts of it.
We did aforetime grant to the Children of Israel the Book the Power of Command, and Prophethood; We gave them, for Sustenance, things good and pure; and We favoured them above the nations.
( سورة الجاثية , Al-Jathiya, Chapter #45, Verse #16)
We divided them into twelve tribes or nations. We directed Moses by inspiration, when his (thirsty) people asked him for water: “Strike the rock with thy staff”: out of it there gushed forth twelve springs: Each group knew its own place for water. We gave them the shade of clouds, and sent down to them manna and quails, (saying): “Eat of the good things We have provided for you”: (but they rebelled); to Us they did no harm, but they harmed their own souls.
( سورة الأعراف , Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #160)
May 4, 2015 at 3:36 am#796273bodhithartaParticipantInspiration , no matter how overwhelming, can come from a variety of sources.
Yes Nick it can, do you know how to discern?
God is far more interested in us producing good fruit than gaining knowledge.
Wisdom will only produce good fruit.That was my whole point wisdom will only produce good fruit:
Job 32:8
But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.When it is clear what types of things God has inspired his messengers to say or do it is not difficult to discern the source
God would not be inspiring you to commit adultery but He may inspire you to go to the market at a certain time and you being single meet a like minded single person that ultimately becomes your spouse. God would not inspire you kill innocent people but may inspire you defend innocent people with the result being some innocent people being killed such as in a drone strike. The fact is being close to God you get to know what it feels like when the inspiration is from God because that is the point of The Holy Spirit imparting Knowledge and Power from God———————————–
This momentous story of the meeting of Moses and Khidr is narrated in Quran in Chapter 18, The Cave.
“Moses said to him, “May I follow you on [the condition] that you teach me from what you have been taught of sound judgment?” He said, “Indeed, with me you will never be able to have patience. And how can you have patience for what you do not encompass in knowledge?” Moses said, “You will find me, if Allah wills, patient, and I will not disobey you in any order.” He said, “Then if you follow me, do not ask me about anything until I mention it to you.” So they set out, until when they had embarked on the ship, al-Khidhr damaged it. Moses said, “Have you damaged it to drown its people? You have certainly done a grave thing.” Al-Khidhr said, “Did I not say that with me you would never be able to have patience?” Moses said, “Do not blame me for what I forgot and do not cover me in my matter with difficulty.” So they set out, until when they met a boy, al-Khidhr killed him. Moses said, “Have you killed a pure soul for other than having killed a soul? You have certainly done a deplorable thing.” Al-Khidhr said, “Did I not tell you that with me you would never be able to have patience?” Moses said, “If I should ask you about anything after this, then do not keep me as a companion. You have obtained from me an excuse.” So they set out, until when they came to the people of a town, they asked its people for food, but they refused to offer them hospitality. And they found therein a wall about to collapse, so al-Khidhr restored it. Moses said, “If you wished, you could have taken for it a payment.” Al-Khidhr said, “This is parting between me and you. I will inform you of the interpretation of that about which you could not have patience. As for the ship, it belonged to poor people working at sea. So I intended to defect it as there was after them a king who seized every [good] ship by force. As for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared that he would overburden them by transgression and disbelief. So we intended that their Lord should substitute for them one better than him in purity and nearer to mercy. And as for the wall, it belonged to two orphan boys in the city, and there was beneath it a treasure for them, and their father had been righteous. So your Lord intended that they reach maturity and extract their treasure, as a mercy from your Lord. And I did it not of my own accord. That is the interpretation of that about which you could not have patience.” (Quran 18:66-82)
The story of Moses and Khidr reminds us that God is the Most Wise. For the frail human being life can hold great joy and laughter but sometimes we are beset by trials, tragedies, and calamities that seemingly make no sense. As believers we should believe that whatever God’s decree is it stems from His Supreme and Absolute Wisdom. ~http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/3366/viewall/
May 4, 2015 at 3:37 am#796274bodhithartaParticipantHi BD,
You book tries to look authentic by copying many things.
“Indeed, in their stories, there is a lesson for men of understanding. It (the Quran) is not a forged statement but a confirmation of God’s existing Books (the Torah, the Gospel and other Scriptures of God) and a detailed explanation of everything, a guide, and a Mercy for the people who believe.” (Quran 12: 111)
May 4, 2015 at 4:53 am#796277NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
The words of men cannot justify the travesty.
Men try to correct the Holy Spirit
May 4, 2015 at 12:11 pm#796315Ed JParticipantThis is ISLAM
quran 8,12
smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them
May 4, 2015 at 12:21 pm#796317Ed JParticipantThank you Bodhitharta. Mine-dreams, visions. some have been blunt force trauma!
So Nick, Edj since Bodhitharta’s view is incorrect on the holy spirit what is yours?
Hi Princess,
The kingdom of God is righteousness, and peace, and joy in the HolySpirit.
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God bless
Ed JMay 4, 2015 at 12:25 pm#796318Ed JParticipant“Indeed, in their stories, there is a lesson for men of understanding. It (the Quran) is not a forged statement but a confirmation of God’s existing Books (the Torah, the Gospel and other Scriptures of God) and a detailed explanation of everything, a guide, and a Mercy for the people who believe.” (Quran 12: 111)
Hi BD,
the quran is not a confirmation as it contradicts everything written before.
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God bless
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