Christianity is Hopelessly Confused

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  • #796167
    Ed J
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    Hi BD,

    You can’t keep claiming ignorance for ever BD, islam is antichrist – Jesus said:

    “He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.” (Matt 12:30)

    Yes, Islam is with Christ and you and your leading people astray with divination is against Christ

    Hi BD,

    How can you yet deny that islam is antichrist when it denies God’s salvation in Christ?
    Jesus died on the cross to baptize us with God’s HolySpirit making us God’s sons.

    “ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in (God’s Son’s) them,
    and walk in (God’s Son’s) them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” (2Cor.6:16)

    What agreement hath the temple of God (God’s Son’s) with idols (such as islam)?

    NONE!

    #796168
    Ed J
    Participant

    Here is proof Muhammad is a fraud…

    “Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away” (Deut 17:17)

    Muhammad multiplied wives to himself and his heart turned away to a fallen angel called Lucifer.

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #796169
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    Unbelief in your god is a healthy thing.

    Our God does not tolerate competition.

    #796171
    Ed J
    Participant

    the angel Jibreel that came to Muhammad was really satan – the fallen angel Lucifer – preaching a different Gospel…

    “though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you
    than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed” (Galatians 1:8)
    “And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light” (2Cor.11:14)

    #796181
    princess
    Participant

    BD, your missing the point terribly. How you believe is your own.

    Still waiting on a simple answer on how this holy spirit communicates with you. and you want to play here we go around the mulberry bush.

    You do try as most on this forum do, to show that you have the true God. Alright, get that. past that point. you show comparison verses to try to prove such things. get that. There are some beliefs that you have we share. get that.

    I do share a belief that Nick holds, test the spirit. did that. It seems you want to make yourself different on how you believe and what you believe but bottom line is BD, you are just like all the others. It is fine when a chapter or verse needs referred to. When you feel insulted the person becomes a heretic and shall have their just reward.

    i do hope you can remember every chapter and verse, by my understanding you can’t take anything with you. so what is on your heart is what you have. there will be no debates. so I do hope BD what you are doing is a pure desire of your heart and not just following instructions to the letter.

    take care and all the best.

    #796182
    bodhitharta
    Participant


    @EDJ

    Hi BD,

    How can you yet deny that islam is antichrist when it denies God’s salvation in Christ?
    Jesus died on the cross to baptize us with God’s HolySpirit making us God’s sons.

    “ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in (God’s Son’s) them,
    and walk in (God’s Son’s) them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” (2Cor.6:16)

    What agreement hath the temple of God (God’s Son’s) with idols (such as islam)?

    NONE!

    Why do you always insert your own words and own meaning do you not think the writer could write what you think he meant if that is what he meant?

    #796183
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    @EDJ

    Here is proof Muhammad is a fraud…

    “Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away” (Deut 17:17)

    Muhammad multiplied wives to himself and his heart turned away to a fallen angel called Lucifer.

    I am really getting tired of teaching you people who don’t read their Bibles but keep making crazy comments.

    Moses has wives
    Jacob had wives in-fact no 12 tribes of Israel without those wives
    Abraham had wives
    Solomon had wives
    David had wives

    So Duet 17:17 is talking about what? oh that’s right Kings of Israel but you don’t read more than the line you are looking for

    16″Moreover, he shall not multiply horses for himself, nor shall he cause the people to return to Egypt to multiply horses, since the LORD has said to you, ‘You shall never again return that way.’ 17″He shall not multiply wives for himself, or else his heart will turn away; nor shall he greatly increase silver and gold for himself. 18″Now it shall come about when he sits on the throne of his kingdom, he shall write for himself a copy of this law on a scroll in the presence of the Levitical priests.…

    #796184
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    You don’t know much at all or at least you don’t show it, why is Jesus called the Morning Star if you think it refers to Satan?

    #796185
    bodhitharta
    Participant


    @EDJ

    Hi BD,

    You can’t keep claiming ignorance for ever BD, islam is antichrist – Jesus said:

    “He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.” (Matt 12:30)

    That sounds like Christianity with 39,000 denominations and can’t come together on the nature of God or Jesus even on this site there is no absolute unity of Christians no 2 believe alike this can’t be compared to Islam where Muslims all over the world come together and even fast together and they all Love and Believe in Jesus Christ the same and worship the EXACT same perception of God…this doesn’t happen in Christianity where the leading Christian(the pope) is called the anti-christ by other Christians

    #796186
    bodhitharta
    Participant


    @Princess

    Still waiting on a simple answer on how this holy spirit communicates with you. and you want to play here we go around the mulberry bush

    the best way to describe it would be by way of “overwhelming inspiration followed by confirmation” although that term may not adequately relay the idea it’s the best way to describe it.

    #796195
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi bd,

    Inspiration , no matter how overwhelming, can come from a variety of sources.

    God is far more interested in us producing good fruit than gaining knowledge.

    #796197
    kerwin
    Participant

    Bodhitharta,

    Paul taught the same gospels as the other disciples and even use the same imagery of being a servant to sin in Romans 6 as Jesus used in John 8. Paul’s gospel is Jesus’ and his other students’ gospel.

    #796199
    kerwin
    Participant

    Bodhitharta,

    The Quran clarifies and annuls the Catholic teachings that are incorrect and only preaches that it is the direct GUIDANCE of GOD that will overcome all of a human’s sins just as Christ Jesus did BY SUBMITTING to GOD. Submission to God is the ONLY way to follow Christ into salvation…lip service alone is not enough…saying “lord, lord” is not enough

    The Quran does correct some as a number Christian doctrines do in rejection of Catholicism but then it created new ones which results in a different but flawed teaching.

    The gospel teaches us of how to submit to God through his power and not by our since human nature is opposed to God’s nature. It is only possible to submit to God for those that have the Spirit of God and they can only do so through faith.

    #796204
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    We know your teachings are at variance to those of God.

    That identifies them as false.

     

    Catholicism is very similar.

     

    So you do recognise your need for salvation from the wrath of God?

    And you have devised your own way?

    #796205
    bodhitharta
    Participant


    @Nick

    Hi bd,

    Inspiration , no matter how overwhelming, can come from a variety of sources.

    God is far more interested in us producing good fruit than gaining knowledge.

    Job 32:8
    But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.

    Gene has spoke about this type of imparting knowledge or intellect and yes producing good fruit is paramount
    it is this very Inspiration of God that causes us to produce good fruit which cause more Inspiration.

    A person may not have any contact with The Holy Spirit and then start to draw near to God by producing good fruit or having the desire to do so
    and suddenly God will draw near them and start a relationship through inspiration and as long as they don’t grieve this relationship it can blossom.

    John 3:8
    The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

    Also I see the many posts about when did Jesus actually receive the spirit as though it was a one time event but the fact is there are portions of Spirit as when Elisha asked for a double portion of what Elijah had and did receive it so Jesus had many portions of The Spirit

    This is why Jesus said that fasting and praying was needed to cast out some demons because by drawing near to God increases the power or portion of The Spirit in you.

    So Jesus was a Spirit that proceeded from God and was strenghthened various times through his life with portions of Holy Spirit he had so much residual Spirit he could impart it to others just as Moses had so much residual power he could make water come from the rock even without God’s permission but of course that was disobedience. Don’t want to say much more than that at least right now

    #796215
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    The Fruit spoken of is that of the Spirit.

    Natural man cannot produce the fruit of the Spirit without the Spirit.

    Jesus did not have just portions of the Spirit. He was given the Spirit without measure.[jn 3.34]

    #796218
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    The Fruit spoken of is that of the Spirit.

    Natural man cannot produce the fruit of the Spirit without the Spirit.

    Jesus did not have just portions of the Spirit. He was given the Spirit without measure.[jn 3.34]

    How then is the fruit of the Spirit produced and when given without measure what was the outcome but works worthy of the Spirit….What did Jesus DO that you would know he had the Spirit?

    #796220
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    The sons of God are led by the Spirit of God.

    You cannot pick good fruit from bramble bushes.

     

    #796221
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi BD,

    He gave his life that you might be saved.

    #796223
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Nick

    What did Jesus do while he was alive?

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