Christianity is Hopelessly Confused

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,

Do you find fault with scripture again ?

Jb 25 is scripture

Son of Adam applies to all men.

 

 

[bodhitharta]

Hi Nick

Hi BD,

So you compare forming a thought as in Jas 1.4 with human conception?OK

Then you somehow link forming a man from the dirt with this?

And you expect the hebrew and greek to be equivalent?

Desperation has driven you into nonsense

So you do believe that Jesus came about through human conception? I thought you believed in the Virgin Miracle, now I understand more of what you believe

[NickHassan]

Hi,

Ezekiel 1-10 also speaks of a being looking like a SON OF ADAM.

Jesus emphasised his human origins.

To say he was the Son of God brought the hatred of men against their Creator against him.

We see such examples here daily

[bodhitharta]

Hi Nick

Hi BD,

Do you find fault with scripture again ?

Jb 25 is scripture

Son of Adam applies to all men.

Even Jesus?

[Ed J]

(1)I didn’t know you believed that Jesus is a god, (2)why isn’t all this on the what EDJ believes thread?
(3)So to deny that Jesus is a god is antichrist? (4)that doesn’t even make sense as being anointed(Christ) doesn’t make someone God does it?

Psalm 105:15
Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.

(5)Is God really saying “touch not my god”?

(6)I am glad you finally told me today 2 things (7)1. you Worship Jesus (8)2. You believe Jesus is God

(9)Being that you are a polytheist of course you wouldn’t understand monotheism,most people here are also polytheistic, they mostly try to make it sound monotheistic

Hi BD,

1) I never said that I did.
2) Because you are asking me in this thread.
3) spin
4) more spin
5) No, of course not
6) Your conclusions are not what I have said.
7) If you define your definition of worship, I will answer.
8) yet more spin
9) You are bizarre

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God bless
Ed J

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,

You really need to trust the Holy Scriptures rather than your own weak ideas.

Conception involves two. Mary is his mother, a daughter of Adam, and God is his father.

 

[Ed J]

Hi EDJ

Hi BD,

Jesus did not have a human father – God’s Spirit caused Mary’s pregnancy. (Matt.1:18, Matt.1:20, Luke 1:30-35)

What kind of Father did Adam have?

Hi BD,

Adam was created out of dust, he did not have a father, he instead had a Creator.
When God breathed into Adam life, he became Adam’s father – Learn your bible!

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God bless
Ed J

[Ed J]

@t8 @Nick @EDJ

Better yet, what kind of Father did Melchezidek have?

Hi BD,

Melchizedek’s father was Noah.

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God bless
Ed J

[Ed J]

So, the question wasn’t “are they right?” the question was “were they talking about jesus?” Yes or No?

Bildad the Shuhite didn’t know who Jesus was, so no he was talking from his own understanding.

[bodhitharta]

Hi EDJ

@t8 @Nick @EDJ

Better yet, what kind of Father did Melchezidek have?

Hi BD,

Melchizedek’s father was Noah.

Hebrews 7 [Full Chapter]
For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;

Without father, without mother, without descent

, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. …

[bodhitharta]

Hi EDJ

Hi BD,

Adam was created out of dust, he did not have a father, he instead had a Creator.
When God breathed into Adam life, he became Adam’s father – Learn your bible!

So when God breathed into Adam he became his Father? Genesis just says he became a living soul, does your bible say something different? But , Was Jesus created like Adam was is he the second Adam?

[bodhitharta]

Hi Nick

Hi BD,

You really need to trust the Holy Scriptures rather than your own weak ideas.

Conception involves two. Mary is his mother, a daughter of Adam, and God is his father.

So you do believe that God came into Mary like the angels of old came into the daughters of men…. I have learned so much today about you and EDJ specifically, everything you say the Quran is saying is untrue about what Christians believe is EXACTLY you and he believe:

To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: How can He have a son when He hath no consort? He created all things, and He hath full knowledge of all things.

( سورة الأنعام , Al-Anaam, Chapter #6, Verse #101

Nick says: “Conception involves two. Mary is his mother, a daughter of Adam, and God is his father”

The accusation is God had sexual relations with Mary

Surah maryam
88They say: “(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!”

89Indeed ye have put forth a thing most monstrous!

Genesis 6:4
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

2 Peter 2:4
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

[Ed J]

Hi EDJ

@t8 @Nick @EDJ

Better yet, what kind of Father did Melchezidek have?

Hi BD,

Melchizedek’s father was Noah.

Hebrews 7 [Full Chapter]
For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;

Without father, without mother, without descent

, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. …

Hi BD,

You try to present yourself as a bible scholar, but you keep showing just how little you know.
Here is a thread that will help you in your understanding, please take the time to read my posts.

… (Link)

[bodhitharta]

So Noah was the Father of Melchezidek…the book of Hebrews says he had no Father…your link says you did not learn that from the bible so is Noah the Father of Melchezidek and Hebrews is incorrect?

[NickHassan]

Hi BD,

Lk 3.38

[Ed J]

So Noah was the Father of Melchezidek…the book of Hebrews says he had no Father…your link says you did not learn that from the bible so is Noah the Father of Melchezidek and Hebrews is incorrect?

Hi BD,

Did you read anything on that link?

“Thou (Jesus) art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec” (Heb 7:21)
quoted from here
The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.” (Psalms 110:4)

Melchizedek means King of Righteousness.
[מלך] Mĕh-lĕk means King and [צדיק] tzĕdĕk means righteous.

Melchizedek is a King/Priest office – from Adam to Jesus
Adam was the first, Shem, David, and Jesus is the last.
The office has no beginning of days nor end of life.

[Ed J]

Hi BD,

“And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the
most high God. And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God,
possessor of heaven and earth: And blessed be the most high God, which hath de-
livered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.” (Gen.14:18-20)

Just because the writer of the book of Hebrews didn’t know
who Melchizedek was, does not mean that God didn’t know.
Melchizedek is declared to be Shem in “the book of Jasher”.
(See biblical References: Joshua 10:13 and 2Samuel 1:18)

Melchizedek filled the office of a King/Priest;
Jesus later permanently fills the King/Priest office.

“The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou (Jesus) art a priest for ever
after the order [the King/Priest office] of Melchizedek.” Psalms 110:4

“And Adonizedek king of Jerusalem, the same was Shem, went out with his men to meet Abram
and his people, with bread and wine, and they remained together in the valley of Melech.
And Adonizedek blessed Abram, and Abram gave him a tenth from all that he had
brought from the spoil of his enemies, for Adonizedek was a priest before God.” (Jasher 16:11-12)

Shem is also shown to be alive (during the entire lifespan of Abraham) in this historical bible linage chart.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Hi EDJ

Hi BD,

Adam was created out of dust, he did not have a father, he instead had a Creator.
When God breathed into Adam life, he became Adam’s father – Learn your bible!

So when God breathed into Adam he became his Father? Genesis just says he became a living soul, does your bible say something different? But , Was Jesus created like Adam was is he the second Adam?

Hi BD,

Jesus was born the “Son of God” – Jesus became a quickening spirit at his baptism with God’s HolySpirit.
The first adam (Adam) became a living soul, the second adam (Jesus Christ) became a life giving spirit.

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God bless
Ed J

[Ed J]

Hi BD,

Adam was created out of dust, he did not have a father, he instead had a Creator.
When God breathed into Adam life, he became Adam’s father – Learn your bible!

“Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence:
shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?” (Heb 12:9)

Hi BD,

islam has so warped your mind so that you believe we are saying he had no human father …therefore…
<–| BUT that’s not it at all, what we are instead saying is this…

Born of the spirit makes one a “Son of God”, not being born of the flesh. You confuse the two.
Jesus is the “Son of God” because he was born of the spirit of God, not because he had no father.

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God bless
Ed J

[Proclaimer]

So when God breathed into Adam he became his Father? Genesis just says he became a living soul, does your bible say something different? But , Was Jesus created like Adam was is he the second Adam?

1 Corinthians 15:45
So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.

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