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Is Christian Zionism or Support for Israel by Christians a good or bad thing?
Many Christians support Israel yet others are against it. What is your view?
Here is a video that argues against Israel’s establishment. It is the best argument ‘against’ that is for sure. I will post another video ‘for’ when I find the best one.
Marching to Zion
When I ask such questions, I expect that idiots will not get involved and say stupid things or try and derail the topic. Please only genuine seekers to post here.
Our commission is to go into all of the world and preach the gospel to every creature. We should help anyone who needs our help, but the nation of Israel is a secular nation. The are not the people of God unless they believe the gospel. They do have the right to exist as a nation, and we should should support that right.
What we as Christians need to do is come into unity and teach the Word of God in truth. I don’t see how any Jew would believe the gospel when the church is teaching that Jesus is God. Jesus prayed in John 17:
17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
Also, we need to heed this warning: Romans 11:
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.
24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
(It through the Jews that salvation has come to us, and we need to remember this, but God is not a respecter of persons.)
Love in Christ,
MartyTo all,
They do have the right to exist as a nation, and we should should support that right.
I am not sure who said this but it is an absurd statement as any nation exists it by definition has a right to exist because it would exist unless God allowed it to.
It is a secular nation and therefore godless but that may just testify that prophecy is being fulfilled in our sight for the prophecy of the two witnesses speak of a city that comes into repentance. Only the children of Satan attempt to thwart prophecy.
I watched the whole video and as far as biblical Christianity is concerned I agree with it. As a new believer I was much confused between the bible and what I was being taught by what I came to later learn was dispensationalism and Christian Zionism.I don’t see the modern state as a fulfillment of bible prophecy but politically speaking I support it as an ally of the west.
But as a former attendee of two independent Baptist churches I wonder if any these pastors on the video preach the seven year tribulation and pre-trib rapture which is the cornerstone of dispensationalism and the Scofield bible which popularized it.
Also I notice Pastor Anderson criticizes the Jews,and seemingly uses the rabbi’s he interviews,for not taking the bible literally. But I do know some Jews take it much more literally than others even as various Christians. And as far as how literal it varies on certain points and how one may define certain doctrines. I guarantee Pastor Anderson doesn’t take some things too literally either if it steps on one of his pet doctrines.
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