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- June 21, 2010 at 10:39 am#198912SimplyForgivenParticipant
Hi All,
To further the discussion about Gods all, lets discuss Christ all. this is part two to the previous thread. God wants to be everything to us. But how is it that Christ is all in all? what does that mean to you and how does it fit with the verse stating that God maybe all in all.
How is it that in Christ all the fullness of God is in Jesus?
How can Jesus be all in all first, before God?Colossians 3
10And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
11Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
(Christ is for everybody and every person position)
Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.
(Christ has the fullnes of the Godhead)
10: And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power.
(Christ is the head of all principality and power)
Colossians 1:19
For it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell.
(Christ has all fullness dwelt in him)How is it that Ephesians 1 presents that the fullnes of him is in the body, to fill all in all.
What does that mean to God who maybe all in all according to Corinthians.We can agree its the same writer which is Paul.
How can that be?
What does Paul mean when he usese the phrases all in all.Observations:
>Scripture is stating that Christ is all, and also IN all.
>The new man is in the image of Christ, but not into the likeness of Christ.
>the New man was created by Jesus.
>Where divison does not matter, nor does race, nor relgious costume, nor slaved or free, that Christ is for us all and to be in all.
>The Godhead, fullness is in Christ
>all fullness is in christ.
>IF all fullnes is in Christ yet also in God the father, than there can only be one God, and they are one and the same.
Is Paul saying that Christ is God?Use context and scripture when responding please.
Check out the Previous thread:
God maybe all in all
https://heavennet.net/cgi-bin/forum/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=1;t=3246June 21, 2010 at 2:23 pm#198934GeneBalthropParticipantSF……….Just ask yourself what the word (CHRIST) Means and You have your answer It means ( CHRISTOS) OR THE ANOINTING< JESUS IS THE ANOINTED ONE. It is the spirit of GOD that is the anointing that was in Jesus , So the spirit in Jesus made him the Christ and that spirit was (FROM) GOD the FATHER , it is the (SAME) Spirit we recieve From the Same FATHER. The spirit of Christ is simply the same spirit all who have it in them have in them to , it (the Christos) is the common denominator in (ALL) true Christians. The spirit of Christ is not any different then the spirit of GOD that is in all God gives it to. It is the seed of God the FATHER that is in (ALL) his childern. IMO
peace and love………………gene
June 21, 2010 at 2:50 pm#198936Tim KraftParticipantGene: I couldn't agree more. You are right on here. Its time we all spend our energies rising up into the truth and reflecting the truth through the healing power of the holy spirit. Exposing the annointing that is avaliable today the same as it was back then. Its not for one, its for ALL who believe. When will we begin to see. If being sick or eaten alive by cancer, or loosing one's mind through Alzheimers isn't enough hell for some, it sure is enough hell for me. God blesses all, TK
June 21, 2010 at 6:44 pm#198953SimplyForgivenParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ June 21 2010,19:23) SF……….Just ask yourself what the word (CHRIST) Means and You have your answer It means ( CHRISTOS) OR THE ANOINTING< JESUS IS THE ANOINTED ONE. It is the spirit of GOD that is the anointing that was in Jesus , So the spirit in Jesus made him the Christ and that spirit was (FROM) GOD the FATHER , it is the (SAME) Spirit we recieve From the Same FATHER. The spirit of Christ is simply the same spirit all who have it in them have in them to , it (the Christos) is the common denominator in (ALL) true Christians. The spirit of Christ is not any different then the spirit of GOD that is in all God gives it to. It is the seed of God the FATHER that is in (ALL) his childern. IMO peace and love………………gene
Its amazing how you respond with so many words,and not a single bible verse.
Yet im suppose to believe u..
intresting…
June 21, 2010 at 6:57 pm#198955NickHassanParticipantHi SF,
Now the Lord is the Spirit.'My father and I will come to you'
The Spirit of God is in all who are in Christ.
June 23, 2010 at 4:59 am#199333terrariccaParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 22 2010,05:57) Hi SF,
Now the Lord is the Spirit.'My father and I will come to you'
The Spirit of God is in all who are in Christ.
hi nickwhat is the spirit of God ,that is also in Christ ??
and that can be in all of us?Pierre
June 23, 2010 at 5:04 am#199336SimplyForgivenParticipantNick
2 Corinthians 3:17Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
18But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.June 23, 2010 at 5:41 am#199348terrariccaParticipantQuote (SimplyForgiven @ June 23 2010,16:04) Nick
2 Corinthians 3:17Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
18But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.
SF2Co 3:15 Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts.
2Co 3:16 But whenever anyone turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
2Co 3:18 And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his likeness with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spiritwhat is the spirit ?? what does it means??
Pierre
June 23, 2010 at 6:03 am#199349kerwinParticipantTo all,
I am of the opinion that Christ is in those who enter the new covenant because the same spirit of holiness that was in him is not in those that believe. The origion of the spirit of holiness is God and thus both God and Jesus are in those that believe just as Jesus asked in his prayor in John 17.
In other words it is not the soul or flesh of Jesus that is in us but it is his spirit. I am not going to voice an opinion about mind or heart except to say if you live by the spirit of Christ then you will come to have a mind and heart just like his.
June 23, 2010 at 6:09 am#199351NickHassanParticipantHi T,
Rom 8.10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.Christ IS the Spirit.
Rom 8 is a treasure trove
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