Can we be assured of our salvation?

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    Those who are saved can have an assurance of that salvation. But it is equally true that those who are not, can believe they are saved. This is evident from all these diverse groups with diverse gospels and doctrines that believe they are saved with some believing that only they are saved to the exclusion of others.

    So how do we know if we are saved when we know that many believe they are saved and yet disagree and even condemn each other?

    The difference between the two is that one knows in their spirit with signs and/or wonders from God that demonstrate their standing with God, while others have a head knowledge and intellectual belief that they must be saved because they perhaps believe that they or only they have the truth. The latter explains those who call Jesus Lord, yet he says to them that he never knew them. Further proof that he didn’t know them is because he calls them workers of iniquity. In other words their works are not of God, but of themselves. They are not hearing the shepherd and thus he is not their head, rather they take their instructions from a man-made denomination or structure and think it is the Church that they are working for.

    Denominations generally do works that are really more about promoting themselves and their Church than promoting the Kingdom of God. Yet we are clearly instructed to do all things in the name of Jesus Christ and that even a glass of water given in his name shall not lose its reward. But they do works in their own name. Like Babel, they build towers (churches) in their own name with their steeples rising up to the heavens and the glory in their own name. This is why we see so many divisions. God has divided them in the same way that he divided those at Babel. And he does this so that they are not united in their iniquity lest they accomplish anything their hearts desire. Division is God’s way of lessening iniquity.

    So we have two kinds of people that know they are saved, those who are and those who are not. So how do we know which camp we are in? Further, it is also possible that we are saved, but not to be sure of it. In that case, I think these words of Paul are pertinent.  “Enlighten the eyes of our hearts” in Ephesians 1:18. So with that, here is a list of verses that enlighten us to understand our own salvation.

    1 John 3:14
    “We know that we have passed out of death into life, because we love the brethren.”

    1 John 5:13
    These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

    John 5:24
    Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

    John 3:16
    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    1 John 2:3-4
    And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

    John 20:31
    But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

    2 Corinthians 13:5
    Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

    Romans 8:16
    The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

    Romans 8:1
    [There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    John 3:3
    Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

    1 John 5:5-8
    Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

    1 John 3:20
    For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.

    Acts 16:31
    And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

    Acts 2:21
    And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

    1 John 5:1
    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

    1 John 3:10
    In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

    1 John 3:9
    Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

    1 John 2:3
    And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

    1 John 1:9
    If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

    2 Peter 1:10
    Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

    2 Timothy 3:15
    And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

    Ephesians 2:8
    For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:

    John 10:27-30
    My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

    John 3:36
    He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

    John 1:12
    But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:

    1 John 5:18
    We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

    1 John 5:4
    For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, [even] our faith.

    1 John 4:6
    We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

    1 John 3:24
    And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

    Colossians 2:2
    That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;

    Philippians 1:6
    Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform [it] until the day of Jesus Christ:

    Ephesians 2:5
    Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

    2 Corinthians 5:17
    Therefore if any man [be] in Christ, [he is] a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

    Romans 10:9
    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

    Romans 8:1-39
    [There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    Romans 6:23
    For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    Romans 4:25
    Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

    Mark 16:16
    He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

    Matthew 7:23
    And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

    #820459
    NickHassan
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    Hi,

    Jn 1.12

    But as many as received him, to them he gave the right to become children of God,

     

    Having entered through the door we are urged to walk and to knock, seek and ask, to access grace and to pray earnestly. Scripture is full of warnings to make a profit on the investment God has made in us and to produce fruit.

    God has done all He can to help us grow into adults.

    But it is no armchair ride as some suggest.

    That is the message of human religion

    #820461
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,

    Seek ye first the kingdom of God.

    The for the obedient Peter’s letters are a good place to start.

    #820617
    Proclaimer
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    But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.

    This is how we know those born of God. They have the Spirit and the Spirit bears fruit. Condemnation, accusations, and bitterness are not of the Spirit. Many speak scripture, but do it for their own purpose. Some use scripture to draw men to the truth and God.

    This girl followed Paul and the rest of us, shouting, “These men are servants of the Most High God, who are proclaiming to you the way of salvation.” She continued this for many days. Eventually Paul grew so aggravated that he turned and said to the spirit, “In the name of Jesus Christ I command you to come out of her!” And the spirit left her at that very moment.

    #820636
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    The Scriptures do rebuke those who wander off the path into the fables of tradition.

    Listen to the Spirit.

    #820691
    Proclaimer
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    Agreed Nick. John taught that those who have the Spirit will love. It is by this fruit and others that we know who has been born from above. Many claim they are special and go around condemning and accusing others because their way is the right way, but they lack love which proves to us their true relationship with God. God is love and so it is that he fellowships with those who love. There is no way of getting around this. You cannot argue it away. Even if you were skilled enough to argue it away, it would do nothing for you on that day would it? That day comes to us all.

    #820693
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    Love includes pulling the deceived from the fire.

    Love is not happy with deception but is with truth.

    #820706
    Proclaimer
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    Love is also gentle, kind, and doesn’t accuse people day and night and try to make people feel inferior or inadequate.Yes it pulls people from the fire, but it doesn’t condemn those because they hold not your exact views on everything. Blessed are the peacemakers for this reason. Some wage war because their genealogical arguments do not match or do not place themselves under one’s supposed authority.

    While the forums are here to test all things, they are not here to condemn all people. Of course some issues are serious and we should try and pull people from the fire, but others are not serious and absolute and should not let them go in order to create a false peace, but neither should never divide on these variables.

    While we are on this subject, I have a question which I expect a yes / no answer to.

    Did Jesus Christ come in the flesh?

    #820767
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    Jesus Christ came in the flesh.

    Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever.

    The Word was with God and was God. The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.

     

    Know the Spirit of Christ.

    #821659
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    So the Spirit is not Christ but is of?

    #821671
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    Yes.

    Now the Lord is the Spirit.

    #821780
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    The Lord Jesus or LORD/ YHWH?

    #821781
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T8,

    in context

    2Cor 3.16

    ” but whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.

    Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

    But we all, with unveiled faces, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord,

    are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory,

    just as from the Lord, the Spirit”

    2 Cor 5.4f

    “And If our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing,

    in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving

    so they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

    For we do not preach ourselves but Christ Jesus as Lord, and ourselves as your bondservants

    for Jesus’ sake.”

     

     

     

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