Born of God and,

[GeneBalthrop]

Wakeup…….if what you preach is true then Jesus lied when he said “those who believe have passed  from Judgement into life ” . Please notice the word passed ( that is a past sense word ), and again scripture also say the calling of God is without revocation.

Wakeup, you seem to base your salvation on your own performance rather then on the power of God and his spirit  effectually  working ( IN) his adopted children. Remember it say “unless the LORD shall build the house , the weary builders build in vain”, and again “for we are “HIS” workmanship being created unto the building for GOD” and again, for “HE” (God) works “IN” us “BOTH” to WILL, and do of “HIS” good pleasure.

We can't even go to Jesus in truth unless God theFather “DRAWS” us to him. We have only ONE SAVIOR and that is OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, no matter who he does it through. We have been and are saved by the “GRACE” of Our God. He alone is our God and there is NO OTHER. IMO

Peace and love to you and yours……………………….. Gene

[Wakeup]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 24 2014,07:43)

Wakeup…….if what you preach is true then Jesus lied when he said “those who believe have passed  from Judgement into life ” . Please notice the word passed ( that is a past sense word ), and again scripture also say the calling of God is without revocation. Wakeup, you seem to base your salvation on your own performance rather then on the power of God and his spirit  effectually  working ( IN) his adopted children. Remember it say “unless the LORD shall build the house , the weary builders build in vain”, and again “for we are “HIS” workmanship being created unto the building for GOD” and again, for “HE” (God) works “IN” us “BOTH” to WILL, and do of “HIS” good pleasure. We can't even go to Jesus in truth unless God theFather “DRAWS” us to him. We have only ONE SAVIOR and that is OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, no matter who he does it through. We have been and are saved by the “GRACE” of Our God. He alone is our God and there is NO OTHER. IMO Peace and love to you and yours……………………….. Gene

Hi,GeneB.

It is true that it is God that draws us to Jesus.
God knows deep down the heart of men.
God also knows Who will be the cream in His kingdom.
Not all will be master in the kingdom.
There are also the least in the kingdom.

But in Gods kingdom; the least is not discriminated.
No one will look down upon the least. Not all angels are equal in power and brightness.There are four top angels in heaven.

Works:
In the first resurrection, all will be judged by the spirit of Christ in them. By the strength of the spirit in them.
This depends on how much one has served the Lord.
The stars are not all equal in brightness.

The cream of the resurrected,will be the first fruits.
They have followed the Lamb wheresoever he goes.
How can we follow the lamb; For he is not with us in the flesh anymore? We follow the spirit in the Word.
The cream have followd Jesus's comandments to the full.

In the second resurrection; *all gentiles* will be judged according to their works. Of what sort of life they have lived.
An evil life or a good life.They will not be as bright as the ones resurrected in the first resurrection.
We need to labour; to make it in the first resurrection.

The more we eat of the flesh of Christ; the more of the spirit in us; the brighter the light.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
There are not several classes of the saved.
All receive the same pay no matter how long or hard they have worked

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,13:31)

Hi WU, There are not several classes of the saved. All receive the same pay no matter how long or hard they have worked

None can be brighter than God and Jesus.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi,
Are you yet a son of God?
If so how did that happen?
Galatians 4:6
And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

Jesus calls us brothers if we have followed him into sonship to God by sharing the Spirit

He was anointed with the Spirit at the jordan

[NickHassan]

Hi,
Hebrews 2:11
For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

[NickHassan]

Hi WU
You say
“In the first resurrection, all will be judged by the spirit of Christ in them. By the strength of the spirit in them.
This depends on how much one has served the Lord.”
ummm not quite

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
It is not about salvation by works.
It is about how much God's Spirit has been able to use our vessels.

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,20:08)

Hi WU, It is not about salvation by works. It is about how much God's Spirit has been able to use our vessels.

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It is not about salvation by works. It is about how much God's Spirit has been able to use our vessels

You are contradicting your self.
First it not by woks.
Then you say about the using of the vessel.

Using for what?
Is it not work?

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Salvation is not BY our works
but the earnest invested in us must produce a crop.

Those who produce more are given the same prize-eternal life-but more responsibility in the millenium..
lk 19 11-27

[kerwin]

To all;

One is born of a female and sired(begotten) of a male.

[NickHassan]

Hi KW,
Yes the woman Israel produced a son Jesus and we who are reborn are one with him in the Spirit.
Rev 12

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,05:46)

Hi KW, Yes the woman Israel produced a son Jesus and we who are reborn are one with him in the Spirit. Rev 12

Hi Nick.

Yes; Jesus was born out of God's spiritual woman.
Zion in heaven;heavenly Zion (all Gods teachings and standards,and doctrine).

She was revealed to israel,but she has been corrupted by
israel. Then God send His son out of that woman.
And His son came with a new covenant.
His teachings is called the daughter of zion.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Then why do you not join with him?

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 25 2014,05:15)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,05:46) Hi KW, Yes the woman Israel produced a son Jesus and we who are reborn are one with him in the Spirit. Rev 12 Hi Nick. Yes; Jesus was born out of God's spiritual woman. Zion in heaven;heavenly Zion (all Gods teachings and standards,and doctrine). She was revealed to israel,but she has been corrupted by israel. Then God send His son out of that woman. And His son came with a new covenant. His teachings is called the daughter of zion. wakeup.

W , N
How could Christ the only begotten son , the first over all of creation be born out of that so called by ,, the spiritual women of God,,, if he , The son, was created when God was yet alone ,???

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ May 25 2014,15:14)

Quote (Wakeup @ May 25 2014,05:15) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,05:46) Hi KW, Yes the woman Israel produced a son Jesus and we who are reborn are one with him in the Spirit. Rev 12 Hi Nick. Yes; Jesus was born out of God's spiritual woman. Zion in heaven;heavenly Zion (all Gods teachings and standards,and doctrine). She was revealed to israel,but she has been corrupted by israel. Then God send His son out of that woman. And His son came with a new covenant. His teachings is called the daughter of zion. wakeup. W , N How could Christ the only begotten son , the first over all of creation be born out of that so called by ,, the spiritual women of God,,, if he , The son, was created when God was yet alone ,???

Go and read rev 12.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ May 25 2014,10:32)

Quote (terraricca @ May 25 2014,15:14) Quote (Wakeup @ May 25 2014,05:15) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,05:46) Hi KW, Yes the woman Israel produced a son Jesus and we who are reborn are one with him in the Spirit. Rev 12 Hi Nick. Yes; Jesus was born out of God's spiritual woman. Zion in heaven;heavenly Zion (all Gods teachings and standards,and doctrine). She was revealed to israel,but she has been corrupted by israel. Then God send His son out of that woman. And His son came with a new covenant. His teachings is called the daughter of zion. wakeup. W , N How could Christ the only begotten son , the first over all of creation be born out of that so called by ,, the spiritual women of God,,, if he , The son, was created when God was yet alone ,??? Go and read rev 12. wakeup.

W up

You read it again, you may understand it better,
All those event are past , going on, or for later from the time of John,

Christ is God's, s first. Creation

[journey42]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 25 2014,11:47)

Hi WU, Then why do you not join with him?

Hi Nick

That's gratitude for you.
Is that how you speak to someone who has just explained a small part of the truth to you?
How about a simple thank you, because you did not know it in the first place.

[journey42]

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Hi Nick. Yes; Jesus was born out of God's spiritual woman. Zion in heaven;heavenly Zion (all Gods teachings and standards,and doctrine). She was revealed to israel,but she has been corrupted by israel. Then God send His son out of that woman. And His son came with a new covenant. His teachings is called the daughter of zion. wakeup.

Nick

I'm talking about this reply.
You keep telling us how holy you are, but no matter how much I try, I can't see it.

[NickHassan]

Hi J42,
No I have never said that and would not
A false accusation.

Any righteousness I have is from the Son I live in.
His robe covers his brothers

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