Born of God and,

[Wakeup]

Born of God and begotten of God,confusion.

If you are Born of God you **CAN NOT SIN**
Is there any out there that really believe that he/she
*CAN NOT SIN*? None? Nobody: If we dont sin,we dont need forgiveness.

Well; that only means that none of you are born of God.(period).For all *CAN* sin.

If one is begotten of God, he keeps him self from sin.
How many out there keep himself from sin? Many.
So they are the begotten of God.

If we love one another,we are born of God,yes.correct.
But think spiritually.
That spirit of Love God has given us, is born of God.

If we walk in that love, we are born of God.
We are still our Mums and Dads children in the flesh,but walk in the spirit of God,which is born of God.

If one walks in the spirit of Babylon;one is born of babylon,and he/she will do the will of babylon.

So if any of you can not say that you *CAN NOT* sin,than you are NOT BORN OF GOD.

But if you keep yourself from sin;than you are begotten(drawn)(chosen), of God.

All good gifts are born of God.
And if we walk in them,we are born of God.
But still in the flesh. we are not spirit yet, untill our change come at the resurrection,of which is the second coming.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Overcomers is what we must be just as Jesus overcame.
If we are given the earnest of the Spirit we can become sons of God.
But only if we seek grace, feed on the Word transforming our mind and walk in the light.

God will offer help every step of the way

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Have you not been born again yet?
1 Peter 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 13 2014,11:28)

Hi WU, Have you not been born again yet? 1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

Nick.

I have the renewing of the mind;but I am not born again yet untill my resurrection. I am still in the flesh,and can still fall.

When I have made it to the end of my day; and resurrected,
then, I can say I am saved.
I will not count the chickens before they have hatched.
I will not count my money, before it is savely in my bank
account.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
So you are not one with Peter in this?

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 13 2014,12:29)

Hi WU, So you are not one with Peter in this?

Nick

I am very well one with Peter.
It is you that misunderstood Peter.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
1 Peter 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy HAS caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 13 2014,12:43)

Hi WU, 1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy HAS caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

Nick.

Through the resurrection of Jesis Christ.
We also will be resurrected.
Zion's children will not be born before she has her labour pains.

Pains first, then the birth.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
You confuse Zion -the Jewish 144.000-with the rest of the saved

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 13 2014,19:37)

Hi WU, You confuse Zion -the Jewish 144.000-with the rest of the saved

Nick.

You still dont know that christians are called jews.
Spiritual jews.

Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of
***them which say they are Jews***,
and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

You have so much to learn.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
That verse is about those who say they are Jews.
There now is no true synagogue as there is no true Jewish faith.

It is not about Christians

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Can you teach on this subject if the answer to this question eludes you?

“Do you not believe that Jesus is the Christ? “

[NickHassan]

Hi,
John 5:1
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Jn 1
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Heb 12
And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?

8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

Of course you cannot become a son till you are reborn

[Wakeup]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 23 2014,14:47)

Hi, John 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

The devil believes in Christ too.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Sounds like you are still unborn and proud of it

[GeneBalthrop]

Wakeup……….Why can't you understand what Nick is saying, all those who have received the Spirit of God are born of God, and his seed ( God's Spirit) abides IN them. It is God's sprit that produced he children. Remember what it says , ” brethren NOW we are the sons of the Living GOD” , just because our bodies haven't yet been changed, does not mean our hearts and minds haven't , spirit gives berth to spirit, God will also give us new flesh bodies in time. IMO

Peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene

[Wakeup]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 24 2014,01:25)

Wakeup……….Why can't you understand what Nick is saying, all those who have received the Spirit of God are born of God, and his seed ( God's Spirit) abides IN them. It is God's sprit that produced he children. Remember what it says , ” brethren NOW we are the sons of the Living GOD” , just because our bodies haven't yet been changed, does not mean our hearts and minds haven't , spirit gives berth to spirit, God will also give us new flesh bodies  in time. IMO Peace and love to you and yours………………………….gene

GeneB.

You are speeking of the renewing of the mind.

If one received the spirit of God(the Holy Spirit).
The old concept of thinking has been replaced by the thinking of Christ.
He is a new man;the old man is no more.He walks in Christ.

But one can always fall away;and once more, blend in with the world.
This is possible:and it has happened to many.
Do you agree? In the last days many that have the renewing of the mind will fall away.For scripture said so.
This is called the falling away.An apostasy.
Some call it back sliding.

This means that he is not saved and secured.
One can only say he is born again; when he is born of the spirit and is spirit.
First: one is born of water and blood;(Flesh).
Second: He is born of the spirit.(spirit).(at the resurrection).

Even some followers of Paul has fallen away also.

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
Your theories do not align with scripture.
Guess who is wrong

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