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- April 16, 2015 at 10:07 am#794266NickHassanParticipant
Hi BD,
Is HU part of the full revelation outside of Islam?
April 16, 2015 at 10:10 am#794267NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
So if your ideas differ from what is revealed in scripture guess who is wrong.
Your attempts to make scripture fight with itself are pathetic.
April 16, 2015 at 10:15 am#794269bodhithartaParticipantHi Nick
hi BD,
Scripture predicted the death of Jesus.
Scripture records the death of Jesus.
You disagree.
The choice is easy for us but your attitude surprises.
The Holy Spirit of God wrote scripture through men and few would take on the Holy Spirit.
Luke 1:3 it seemed good also to me, having followed from the first after all things exactly, to write to thee in order, most noble Theophilus,
There is no claim that the Holy Spirit is writing the scripture through men here, is it?
There is this scripture
2 Timothy 3: 16 every Writing [is] God-breathed, and profitable for teaching, for conviction, for setting aright, for instruction that [is] in righteousness,
But then there is this scripture:
Jeremiah 8:8
How do ye say, We [are] wise, And the law of Jehovah [is] with us? Surely, lo, falsely it hath wrought, The false pen of scribes.Do you see my point this is Hopeless confusion and ambiguousness whereas the Quaran leaves no doubt
This is the book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear Allah;
( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #2)
April 16, 2015 at 10:21 am#794271NickHassanParticipantHi Bd
2 peter 1 .20f
‘ But know this first of all, that no scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation.
For no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God’
Your man has no such inspiration and that is why you follow him.
April 16, 2015 at 10:37 am#794272bodhithartaParticipantHi nick
what is even more funny(troubling really) is that you don’t trust the very same people who assembled the Bible namely the Catholic Church, do you believe the entire bible is divinely inspired if so how do you feel about the fact that there are various canons 73 books in Catholic and 66 books in pentecostal how do you feel about 7 that were not considered inspired by the Pentecostals?
Here is the thing Nick
The Quran is 1 single book
April 16, 2015 at 10:40 am#794273NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
Why should we take notice of whatever servants God chooses to use?
God can raise up children of Abraham from these stones.
Servants are not relevant compared with God.
God has used a donkey before today
April 16, 2015 at 10:41 am#794274NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
One single book not inspired by God.
Relevant?
April 16, 2015 at 10:42 am#794275NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
Still trying to find division and disharmony in what God does?
a waste of time
April 16, 2015 at 10:47 am#794276bodhithartaParticipant2 Peter 1 Young’s Literal Translation (YLT)
1 Simeon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who did obtain a like precious faith with us in the righteousness of our God and Saviour Jesus Christ:
This says that Jesus is God, it says OUR God and Saviour Jesus Christ. What is your interpretation of it because it says that plainly
April 16, 2015 at 10:49 am#794277bodhithartaParticipantWhat about the 7 book difference nick, were they inspired or not?
April 16, 2015 at 10:51 am#794278bodhithartaParticipantThe very same people that declared the trinity valid are the very same people you are trusting to be accurate in what the printed….I just gave you a scripture that directly says Jesus is God, can you admit that?
April 16, 2015 at 10:55 am#794279NickHassanParticipanthi BD,
My faith is in God.
If you had faith in our God and our Saviour Jesus you would understand.
But your real faith is in little old you.
April 16, 2015 at 11:04 am#794280NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
If you had the help of the Spirit all these little worries for you could be relieved
April 16, 2015 at 11:06 am#794281NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
First you attack the trinity then you appeal for faith in the promotors of it?
Your manipulative ways are becoming rather obvious.
April 16, 2015 at 11:08 am#794282bodhithartaParticipantHick
hi BD,
My faith is in God.
If you had faith in our God and our Saviour Jesus you would understand.
But your real faith is in little old you.
You just said scripture is not open to private interpretation but then you decided to say “Our God and Our Saviour” Jesus when the scripture clearly said “Our God and Saviour Jesus Christ”
Is that scripture correct is Jesus your God and Saviour or is their some problem here? You said it’s not open to intepretation but you tried to reinterpret it. So when David brings up this verse how will you explain away the fact that it is calling Jesus, Our God and Saviour?
April 16, 2015 at 11:14 am#794284NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
And you got confused? Poor you.
Check the other times such statements occur and things will become clearer.
The Spirit interprets the Spirit’s work
Seek the Spirit.
April 16, 2015 at 11:21 am#794288kerwinParticipantBodhitharta,
I do not see where you answered my last post. If you did then please direct me to it. Thank you.
April 16, 2015 at 4:25 pm#794337Ed JParticipantEd J,
According to islam: muslims are not allowed to be friends with Christians and Jews;
they are instead commanded to fight them, to force them to the narrowest side
of the road and to humiliate them and make them feel subdued.(1)I doubt you source is Islamic and thus it may be twisted but there may well be a teaching in Islam that the strangers in the land are treated as second class citizens.
(2)It is an OT teaching and so it is also a Jewish and Christian teaching as well. I do not know any Jews or Christians that practice it. Peter’s dream before he spread the gospel to the house of Cornelius addressed it.
(3)I do not know if it is taught in Islam as well.
Hi Kerwin,
1) Well what you speculate things to be is certainly important here, right?
2) Irrelevant
3) Glad to see you admit you do not know!____________
God bless
Ed JApril 16, 2015 at 4:39 pm#794338Ed JParticipantOf course Muslims can be friends with Christians or Jews it is 100% allowed to Marry them and your wife is usually your best friend:
Why lie BD?
quran 5,51
O you who believe! do *NOT* take the Jews and the Christians for friends;
they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend,
then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.Is this sura saying something different than what it saying?
April 16, 2015 at 4:50 pm#794340Ed JParticipantHi Nick
so are you saying that the phrase lays down life for the sheep means
1. I die for the sheep or
2. I would die for the sheepHi BD
1.
“I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.” (John 10:11)
so are you saying that the phrase “giveth his life for the sheep” means
1. Die for the sheep
2. dedicate his life to the sheep - AuthorPosts
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