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- August 28, 2011 at 1:09 am#257109ProclaimerParticipant
Mike that is one sure point among a multitude.
They are fighting against the current of truth, hence why they lose on nearly every point.
And we do not even have to be that great at debating. We only have to speak the truth, it is that easy.
Clearly the opposition cannot change the truth that there is one God the Father and that Jesus is the son of God and the son of the Father. They try to change this truth, but they fail, and will fail, and have failed.
August 28, 2011 at 4:29 pm#257163mikeboll64BlockedTrue dat (as the young kids say).
August 29, 2011 at 1:01 am#257218ProclaimerParticipantHey KJ.
How do you refute the following:
“The head of the woman is the man and the head of Christ is God.”
When identifying these, the woman is not the man and Christ is not God.
But your argument is to make the woman man so you can make Christ God.How do you intend to get away that this obvious blunder of yours?
September 4, 2011 at 3:19 pm#257647KangarooJackParticipantOn the Compound Unity thread t8 said:
Quote There are many examples of multiple beings sharing the same nature or being one in unity.
Angels, mankind, dogs, etc.I like this one though as it is not unique to kind.
John 17:21 (English-NIV)
that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.Anyone keen to develop a doctrine that fits us into a compund unity with God and Jesus?
The unity in John 10:30 of the Father and the Son is not about identity and nature. It is about the unity of purpose in the salvation of Christ's sheep.Quote Some Trinitarian commentators and many non-Trinitarians argue that Jesus is simply speaking about a unity of purpose, of His union with God's design and plan for His people.
http://www.forananswer.org/John/Jn10_30.htmLikewise, the unity in John 17:23 of the disciples with the Father and the Son is NOT about identity or nature. It is about unity of purpose “that the world may know that You have sent Me.”
Think t8 think!
KJ
September 4, 2011 at 4:19 pm#257654mikeboll64BlockedJack,
Jehovah is the Most High God. (Gen 14:22) And Jesus is the SON OF the Most High God. (Mark 5:7) Do you accept these scriptures as truth?
September 5, 2011 at 10:34 pm#257720ProclaimerParticipantQuote (Kangaroo Jack @ Sep. 05 2011,02:19) The unity in John 10:30 of the Father and the Son is not about identity and nature. It is about the unity of purpose in the salvation of Christ's sheep.
You missed the point.Trinitarians and Binitarians including some here say that Jesus is God because he said that he was one with the Father.
Just correcting that misconception because as you admit, the oneness is one in purpose, not one in being.
Thanks for the help in making that point.
September 5, 2011 at 10:35 pm#257721ProclaimerParticipantWhile you are there KJ, you might have missed this.
How do you refute the following:
“The head of the woman is the man and the head of Christ is God.”
When identifying these, the woman is not the man and Christ is not God.
But your argument is to make the woman man so you can make Christ God.How do you intend to get away that this obvious blunder of yours?
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