All will be chipped by March 2013.

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  • #381011
    Wakeup
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2014,23:52)
    Hi WU,
    Unless they have joined the kingdom they will just be better educated when facing the second death


    Nick.

    Whick/who's kingdom are you speaking of?
    Since you dont know the kingdom of God; just imagine it
    in your confused mind.
    The angel warned you to come out of that kingdom
    or you will receive her plagues.
    Baptised or not baptised.

    wakeup.

    #381029
    NickHassan
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    Hi WU,
    The kingdom of heaven and God.
    Are others relevant?

    #381148
    Wakeup
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2014,04:54)
    Hi WU,
    The kingdom of heaven and God.
    Are others relevant?


    Nick.

    The kingdom is to be searched.
    The seeking is important.
    No seeking;no kingdom in sight.

    wakeup.

    #381154
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    You can't see it yet?
    Jn3

    #381156
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2014,09:52)
    Hi WU,
    You can't see it yet?
    Jn3


    Nick.

    You think the kingdom will be handed to you on a silver plate.

    wakeup.

    #381158
    NickHassan
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    Hi WU,
    The door is still open

    #381163
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2014,09:57)
    Hi WU,
    The door is still open


    Nick.

    I have gone inside the one true door.
    You still need to find the true door.

    wakeup.

    #381172
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Do you think so?

    #381231
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2014,10:13)
    Hi WU,
    Do you think so?


    Nick.

    I know so, by the words that come out of you.
    All just fluff.

    wakeup.

    #381239
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Really?

    #381251
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2014,18:29)
    Hi WU,
    Really?


    Nick.

    Like the turbulent sea foaming.

    wakeup.

    #381263
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Just calm yourself and realise that you are stressing out about nothing
    Everyone makes mistakes

    #787199
    Proclaimer
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    Wakeup said:

    All americans will be chipped by march 2013.
    many will welcome the idea because of no knowledge in prophesies.

    Deuteronomy 18:21,22
    If a man attempts to predict the future and fails, we can know that the Lord did not speak through Him.

    #787200
    Wakeup
    Participant

    T8.

    You just love to see me fail don’t you; just like many here.
    But no; I will not fail.
    That statement; I got from the news Btw.
    New things introduced will always go by step; on step at the time.
    Many have already taken the chip in the world, many in mexico.
    When the false prophet is revealed; he will enforce the chip to every one.
    I went to a hard ware store yesterday, and could not pay by cash.
    Everyone pays by card. There is only one lane for cash payment.
    This is just the start. soon all atm will not be found, this is my opinion.
    Be patient and watch; it will come soon. Then all will be silent, you will not hear a comment made.
    Not even a, yes wakeup you are right, because pride is still in the hearts, despite all the preaching about
    how much they love God.

    wakeup.

    #787208
    Proclaimer
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    Wakeup, I do not want to see you fall. I warn people beforehand to stop them from falling. If I wanted you to fall, I would never warn you of anything and wait for you to walk into a trap.

    #787209
    Proclaimer
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    Wakeup as far as your views on the cashless society I heard all this before even as far back as the early eighties. It is nothing new. I think we have all heard it before, and I believe it will happen. But will it lead to the mark of the Beast, you teach yes, I say it might, but be open to it being something else, lest you take the mark because it is something different to what you thought it was.

    Be wise.

    #787210
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    You just love to see me fail don’t you; just like many here.
    But no; I will not fail.

    I don’t want anyone to fall, this is why I post this. I point out the truth that the Lord did not speak to you regarding this and if anyone has any sense, they will also consider the possibility of your other views as also failing in like manner.

    Scripture is used for reproof, correction, etc. When we use scripture this way, it is not done so a person falls, but so a person learns from scripture a better way.

    You teach a certain eschatology and so what you teach is open to being judged in the manner that this scripture suggests.

    I too teach on the end-times, but the difference is I a say that this is a theory and it may not happen. But I only bring it to these forums as it is worthy IMO of discussion. But how do you take it? You rubbish it and then say your one is the correct view. You don’t say it is a theory, or something to consider, rather that it is the truth. You have even belittled and mocked others saying they lack eschatological knowledge.

    This is why I post that scripture. If an Islamic Empire doesn’t rise in the Middle East, then I cannot be rebuked or corrected, because I have stressed time and time again that is one theory among others and to watch for the signs and to see what eventuates. But when your views fail, then you need to be rebuked because you teach it as fact.

    Earlier on I started a topic/blog called:

    Do not fully subscribe to a single end-time theory

    I believe that this is the wise thing to do because it then keeps you open to seeing the signs of the times, rather than ignoring them because you are looking the other way at a some other predefined end-time view.

    Wisdom is great treasure, More valuable than all the world’s gold. While knowledge is treasure too, it can puff up people when it is not handled with wisdom.

    Just as you warned us here with a statement and video as proof that all will be chipped by march 2013, I knew fully well when you posted that, that you would be proven wrong. I think that this is not going to be an isolated case either. So no, I don’t want anyone to fall, rather I encourage all to handle truth with wisdom. I have told you this before and I why would I tell people this if I want to see them fall. If I wanted that, I would say nothing and watch you fall, rather than warn you beforehand.

    I am trying to get people here to lift the quality of their teaching here in Heaven Net. Most are teachings here are sub-standard. If you are going to teach, then make sure you know you are teaching the truth. Those that teach falsely will be judged more harshly than non-teachers. If you do not know, then do not say you know and try to convince others. Just be honest, be open, teachable, and look at the signs of his coming. If you think you know, then say so. Don’t say that you know the future with absolute certainty. You do not even know if you will be alive tomorrow.

    #787220
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Just for me to post a video like others here do, does not mean that it is my prediction.
    I was just transferring some news information.
    I knew full well that the mark will be enforced by the false prophet when HE is revealed.
    But today the mark is already in use by millions; by own choice. It is in use now.
    The mark will come, and will not be a piece of cloth, with the word allah worn on the forehead.
    Scripture says clearly; IN the hand or IN the forehead. The f.proph. will come appearing as Christ,
    not with allah written all over LIKE A CHRISTMAS TREE.

    You can continuously say, wait and see; wait and see; To kingdom come. See what? what is going on in the world?
    How can you compere what is happening, with prophesies, if you don’t know the prophesies? What are you going to compare it with? What foundation will you use?
    That is not how it is done, interpreting God’s prophesies.
    First; understand the prophesies, than compare world happenings with that knowledge have received. Can not be done correctly otherwise. Your attention was on this islam thing, because of what you see in the news; and because of W. Shoebat,
    Which has nothing to do with bible prophecy.

    wakeup.

    #787221
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Wakeup, your post proves to me you are unwilling to change. That is a shame.

    #787222
    Proclaimer
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    Wakeup, you made it the heading of the topic and you stated it again in the post.

    But my advice stands. If you teach things as if they are so, then they have to be true.

    But you are allowed to highlight a theory, say something might be true, or quote statements elsewhere, but make sure you are not preaching them as absolute truth.

    I had you up about this before a while back when I said you are basically coming across as saying you have the truth and everyone else is wrong. Then you went further and started to belittle everyone else as if you were the truth on the subject of prophecy.

    I am encouraging you to be wise with knowledge. It will help you to keep an open mind and you will see things when God reveals them in his time. Too many times people ruin prophecy for others by acting in such ways when they are open minded to the truth. That is a shame because blessed are those who understand.

    I am trying to encourage real discussion here. This is not about drawing men away from Christ and to themselves and their own philosophies. We all need to read scripture for ourselves and engage in good discussion about it and be reasonable. It is annoying how many people have pet doctrines and just spend their lives spamming them over every forum they can. They ruin it for everyone.

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