All will be chipped by March 2013.

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  • #787473
    Camillia
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    Journey. The mark is an invisible mark. I don’t go to church.

    Exodus 13:9
    This observance will be for you like a sign on your hand and a reminder on your forehead that this law of the LORD is to be on your lips. For the LORD brought you out of Egypt with his mighty hand.

    Exodus 13:16
    So it shall serve as a sign on your hand and as phylacteries on your forehead, for with a powerful hand the LORD brought us out of Egypt.

    Deuteronomy 6:8
    Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.

    Deuteronomy 11:18
    Fix these words of mine in your hearts and minds; tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.

    #787476
    journey42
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    Journey,

    Live by the Spirit and you will not receive the mark of the beast.

    Kerwin

    Ok so you are un-churched. Thank you. Never been to church or studied with them? What about seeking? Do you search the internet for answers? Do you read material on subjects you are unsure of?

    Live by the spirit how? Can you explain a bit better Kerwin please.

    #787477
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Any one claiming to have true truth; let him show us the Kingdom of God by explain it in detail.
    Show us the great picture.
    He is the blessed and has been given the spirit of truth. For he has been given to see the kingdom of God.
    And he also *WILL ENTER* the kingdom of the 1000year rest.
    He is my brother and sister.
    He who are not able to explain, is not given to see, for some good reasons.
    Seek ye first the kingdom of God.
    He that pick up stones and spit venom against the messenger; is he that can not defend himself.
    He can not contradict the message using his knowledge of scriptures.

    wakeup.

    #787478
    journey42
    Participant

    To whomever it may concern,

    If it is physical then it probably functions as a debit/credit card. The poor America are given a link card. I doubt it just having a card that is the sin. It is more likely the requirement of getting it.

    Kerwin
    How can you put a debit/credit card inside your right hand or forehead?
    I don’t think having a card is a sin, but putting the chip inside our body when the time comes, most definately will be the ultimate sin.

    Cards break, get lost or stolen. They cost money to produce. Pin no’s are usually attached to them too, people forget.
    Can you see where it’s leading to Kerwin?

    #787479
    journey42
    Participant

    Journey. The mark is an invisible mark. I don’t go to church.

    Thank you Camellia, but I remember you saying that the Orthodox church was the the only ones who understood prophecy. Are you reading their material?

    Exodus 13:9
    This observance will be for you like a sign on your hand and a reminder on your forehead that this law of the LORD is to be on your lips. For the LORD brought you out of Egypt with his mighty hand.

    Exodus 13:16
    So it shall serve as a sign on your hand and as phylacteries on your forehead, for with a powerful hand the LORD brought us out of Egypt.

    Deuteronomy 6:8
    Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.

    Deuteronomy 11:18
    Fix these words of mine in your hearts and minds; tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.

    I know those scriptures. This is speaking of them remembering God’s laws given to them, to keep reminders so they don’t forget. “As a token” That’s how important it was to Israel to know those laws and obey. No ignorance allowed.

    We are talking here not about God’s mark, but the False prophets mark being put inside our forehead and right hand. Do you think the Devil knew those scriptures God gave, and blasphemed it by replacing what should belong to God with his symbol which is in the form of a number, and not just a belief. Something material for his material world?

    Are we allowed to use critical thinking here? A false prophet is to come bringing false peace to the world. Deceiving the masses.
    Us being warned about him that he will make everyone receive his mark, Jesus warning us to not be deceived. Punishment on all those who receive the mark. God did not tell us directly not to take the mark, but the scriptures when put together show God’s anger towards those who took it, …that they will receive the plagues.

    No man can buy or sell without the Mark of the Beast. How will the saints be killed? What choices do they have?
    Do they choose to live and be part of that wicked system, or do they take the option of being an outcast and facing death or prison? Who will they choose when there is so much to lose?

    Can you see a separation of people here? Can you see a picture forming of the true ones following in Christ’s footsteps (persecution) and the rest taking the option of saving their own lives?

    How would a “symbol” of who we worship stop us from buying or selling? I can’t understand how this interpretation works?
    How will they know who worships who? Will they still get all the benefits man is entitled to? Can they go to hospital if sick or be refused?
    Can you explain to me please?

    #787481
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Cam.

    Is your bank card Physical or spiritual?
    It is physical. For sure. The chip is simply an updated bankcard; smaller and with greater capacity and power.
    So small that it can be placed save and secure in the hand, or forehead.
    Do not follow them that is trying to teach you it is spiritual.
    Do not fall into that trap, they are paid big money to preach that; to deceive the many.
    Of course it is your decision to make.
    The chip is here and already in use; ready and waiting for the man with great authority to enforce it to all.
    Do not let your children ever take that chip for whatsoever reasons.

    wakeup.

    #787482
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Anyone here with a bank card in possession?
    That card will be replaced with a new better powerful little device, called Rfid chip.
    Simple as that, nothing spiritual about it.
    Physical money will be replaced with just numbers deposited into your bank account.
    The false prophet when he comes; will divide his treasures to the very poor, so they also can have an account
    and a chip. He will be seen as a loving man of peace and carer of the poor.
    Bringing peace on earth; however Jesus said: they will say peace and security; then sudden destruction will come upon the earth. The peace will only last for one hour symbolically; meaning short.

    wakeup.

    #787483
    Grasshopper
    Participant

    Just a thought…

    Perhaps when scripture talks about our right hand it is symbolic of our deeds/actions, etc…and when it talks about our forehead it is symbolic of our thoughts/desires/frame of mind, etc…

    Hmmm…I just MIGHT be onto something here 😉

    And @journey42

    I do not attend a “church”. But feel free to name the majority of churches that teach to their congregations the theory spoken of from the article. Should be rather easy for you since you made this claim so speedily.

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    Grasshopper

    #787484
    Wakeup
    Participant

    They will break in your home at 3am in the morning and take you and all family away.
    We need a strong foundation, and warn our brothers and sisters.
    This is about life or death; not just small talk and heroism.

    wakeup.

    #787486
    Wakeup
    Participant

    It is plain and simple; that bankcard in your wallet is nothing spiritual about it.
    It is a piece of plastic with a electronic chip in the corner. The little square.
    The improvised bank card will have more power capacity, consists of a glass tube with electronics inside.
    When they ask you to have your bank card replaced with a better one called Rfid chip; don’t comply.
    Be strong in the Lord And he will give a little help.

    wakeup.

    #787487
    Wakeup
    Participant

    There exist some on this planet earth that have been given all knowledge; that is the whole purpose after all.
    They are the blessed and given the spirit of truth.
    I worry more about them that believe they are saved and secure in the Lord, and is born again.
    For they have been given false security. When born again and saved; one can not be unborn again and unsaved.
    Yet there is a great falling away coming, and a great tribulation.

    wakeup.

    #787488
    Grasshopper
    Participant

    @Wakeup

    “…them that believe they are saved and secure in the Lord…”

    Does this not fit the description of yourself, Wakeup?

    #787489
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Why are you saying that?
    Did I claim that I am saved and Born again?
    I am not saved and born again until the coming.
    It is possible that one can fall away or fail the great test.
    When one is truly saved; he is saved; And had received the reward of being saved.
    When one is born again and believe he is spirit; he has received the reward before the coming,
    this is not possible.
    For Jesus will come with his reward.
    I have the renewing of the mind, and therefore WILL be saved.
    And WILL be born again at the coming, not before. Then I am saved.
    When Zion will give birth to Her children, then the born again are saved.

    wakeup.

    #787492
    terraricca
    Participant

    J42

    And Piere

    You are more closer to a JW than myself, because you love their bible and believe that in the beginning the Word was A god.
    (as if there were other gods existing in the beginning before angels or man were created?)

    TRUTH his truth and truth is found in scriptures if you believe the scriptures ,we Mike and I and t8 told you many times over the past years that it is so according to scriptures but you seem to like to interpreting scriptures in your own way ,and blame the others to not following you ,

    I have over 20 bibles in paper and more on my computer ,the NWT is but only one little one of them ,you should rather considering to more deeply seek the truth just as it is written in scriptures and stop from putting your words into God’s truth ,the real truth will appear to you ,

    #787494
    Grasshopper
    Participant

    @Wakeup

    There exist some on this planet earth that have been given all knowledge; that is the whole purpose after all.

    Kindly insert the scripture that says there are some that have been given ALL knowledge.

    Also, read 1 Corinth 13:12

    12 For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known.

    Have you more insight than Apostle Paul?

    Also, are you suggesting that YOU are one of those blessed enough to have been given ALL knowledge?

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    Grasshopper

    #787498
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Grasshopper.

    Revelation 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads.

    Revelation 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

    Revelation 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

    Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

    Revelation 14:5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

    There are few that knew the new song on this planet after all. You need to find out who they are for yourself.
    Do not discredit anyone; before you have the evidence. We are trying hard to teach you that new song;
    but so far not accepted; because it is new.

    wakeup

    #787500
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Anyone knows that truth is truth.
    If you can show that you can see the kingdom of God; and explain it; then you have that truth.
    If you can not; then you have not the whole truth.

    wakeup.

    #787501
    Devolution
    Participant

    Hi Cam,

    Exodus 13:9
    This observance will be for you like a sign on your hand and a reminder on your forehead that this law of the LORD is to be on your lips. For the LORD brought you out of Egypt with his mighty hand.

    Exodus 13:16
    So it shall serve as a sign on your hand and as phylacteries on your forehead, for with a powerful hand the LORD brought us out of Egypt.

    Deuteronomy 6:8
    Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.

    Deuteronomy 11:18
    Fix these words of mine in your hearts and minds; tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads.

    I know these scriptures too and have seen these used this way before.

    This has absolutely nothing to do with the mark of the beast at all .. there is no relationship whatsoever between the SELF EXPLAINED METAPHORS God used concerning the personal effort in the keeping of His laws .. compared with the LITERAL and NON METAPHORIC narrative EXPLAINING the mark of the beast and it’s INTENDED PHYSICAL USEAGE coming from SATAN through his false prophet.

    Totally unrelated.

    Regards..

    #787502
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    You cannot see the kingdom till you are reborn from above.

    So you are ruled out?

    #787503
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    You have the renewing of your mind??

    No you would renew the scriptures according to your mind.

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