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  • #96857
    gollamudi
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    Quote (chosenone @ July 11 2008,12:32)

    Quote (dirtyknections @ July 11 2008,03:08)

    Quote (gollamudi @ July 11 2008,02:53)
    I think both seem to be OK for me if the One saves is God the merciful one.


    I agree…but he only saves those who do his will and follow him..not all do according to scripture


    “God is operating ALL in accord with the councel of HIS WILL”. (Eph.1:11)

    So… If Gods will is opposed to our will, whos' will will prevail?

    The answer is obvious.

    Blessings.


    Hi brother Jerry,
    I agree with that post of yours. If God wills no one can reverse it.
    Thanks
    Adam

    #96862
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gm,
    We must find God's will.
    Luke 12:47
    “And that slave who knew his master's will and did not get ready or act in accord with his will, will receive many lashes,

    #96874
    GeneBalthrop
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    Adam…the master makes his will known to his slave, the slave doesn't have to figure it out himself, he would then just be guessing, God has made His will Known to all through His words we all know what his will is, and his GRACE drives us to do it.

    love and peace to you and yours…………..gene

    #96876
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GM,
    John 9:31
    “We know that God does not hear sinners; but if anyone is God-fearing and does His will, He hears him.

    #96896
    chosenone
    Participant

    Gods will WILL BE DONE, it doesn't matter whether we seek Gods will so we can do it, as if God is helpless without our permission.
    Its not about us at all, “God 'IS' operating ALL, in accord with the councel of HIS WILL”. (Eph.1:11).

    #96902
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Chosenone …> AMEN, God's will will be done on earth as in Heaven with or without our permission. He is Our SOVEREIGN GOD , not some weak god incapable of causing his will to be done unless we give him permission. Can you believe the arrogances of these kind of people. unbelieving fear mongers.

    And if they believe God does not hear sinners why are they wasting His time then, because John says if we say we have no Sin we (ARE) LAIRS> But if we sin we have an advocate with the Father Jesus Christ the righteous, he is the propitiation for our sins and not ours only but the sins of the whole world.

    love and peace to you anfd yours Jerry…….gene

    #96915
    gollamudi
    Participant

    Quote (chosenone @ July 11 2008,17:00)
    Gods will WILL BE DONE, it doesn't matter whether we seek Gods will so we can do it, as if God is helpless without our permission.
    Its not about us at all,  “God 'IS' operating ALL, in accord with the councel of HIS WILL”.  (Eph.1:11).


    Amen to that post brother Jerry.

    #96917
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Gm,
    I know some block their ears to scriptures that threaten their traditional beliefs
    but stay open minded and let all scripture speak.

    #96924
    gollamudi
    Participant

    Please pray for me so that I may have open mind.

    #96929
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GM,
    No problemo.
    First trust scripture.
    Men are so devious when it comes to presenting their false teachings.

    Matthew 10:16
    ” Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves.

    #96931
    gollamudi
    Participant

    But I think nobody is wolf here as long as they are in limits and expressing their opinions and not rubbing on others.

    #96933
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GM,
    Some are like that just honestly presenting their thoughts with no guile.
    Others come with a carefully devised trap leading you down the path to their deception.
    They try to establish points of simple agreement while slowly attacking the foundations of true faith.

    #97012
    chosenone
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2008,20:57)
    Hi GM,
    Some are like that just honestly presenting their thoughts with no guile.
    Others come with a carefully devised trap leading you down the path to their deception.
    They try to establish points of simple agreement while slowly attacking the foundations of true faith.


    Nick, could you please give us some examples? It sure would help if we could define these treacherous ones who only you seem to recognise.
    Even one example would suffice.

    I'm sure none will be shown!!!

    #97013
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    It is by the choice of God that some clay makes useful vessels.
    Grace accepted opens the door to more and more grace.
    Grace upon grace to those who welcome the rain.

    #97017
    chosenone
    Participant

    Nick.
    You forgot to show us an example. How can we learn your miraculous revelations when someone is attacking “the foundations of truth”? Maybe this way you could impart in us some of your wisdom???

    We won't hold our breath.

    #97045
    gollamudi
    Participant

    Hi brothers,
    We came here to share some thing even if is blunder otherwise no one can share at all. I believe no one knows every thing but everyone knows some thing. Please allow free flow of information even if it is blunder let every thing be debated with personal views and understanding in the light of scriptures.
    Peace to all
    Adam

    #97070
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Adam ….the probelm we have here is (SOME) set THEMSELVES as Judges of God work not doers but Judges and would like us to Trust there Judgements all the while foaming out fear which breaks down true Faith, they disguise themselves as servants of God but in truth are servants of fear which, DENIES THE POWER OF GOD AND HIS SOVEREIGNTY.

    They are the fearful and unbelieving, who will have their part in the lake of fire, just as it says. They do great damage to the believers and truster's in God. If your here to not build a persons Faith you are worthless and serve no good purpose, these are clouds without water twice dead foaming out fear to people they don't even know. Using fear to try to get people to see things their way as they think their way is only way of truth, they are blind guides. They make it like others are giving their opinions and are not coming from the spirit as if they are (ONLY) coming from Scriptures and when confronted with scriptures they simply ignore them and disregard them, well did Jesus describe these as lairs, phonies and hypocrites serpents.

    Adam ….God has done a good work in you do not be intimidated by these false teachers.
    rely on the Spirit God has given you and never be moved to doubt in God by these fear mongers.

    love to you and yours…….gene

    #97089
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi GM,
    How do you tell a wolf?
    By their fruit.

    They cannot conceal their fur and fangs forever.
    Frustration kicking against the goad makes them seek human targets pretty quick.

    #97095
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Adam.. How do you tell lying snakes?, they also have fangs, they slime around, and the skin that covers them up is a cloak of piousness, acting like Judges over Gods Heritage. There is a saying you can never catch a snake in a brayer patch. They just keep popping up their slimy Heads. And when confronted the sneak back into Holes they have made for themselves.

    #97097
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    So the stage that the universalists want to set to garner adherents keeps collapsing.
    It has no true foundation is faith being placed on sand.

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