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I don’t see any question there, all I see is an Adventist video.
Did you watch my video? There is a lot you can learn from it.
TWO QUESTIONS
1) What do YOU believe the ‘abomination of desolation’ is
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2)In what year was the ‘abomination of desolation’ set up.Miia?
Ed, sorry I’ve been busy.
TWO QUESTIONS
1) What do YOU believe the ‘abomination of desolation’ is
– and –
2)In what year was the ‘abomination of desolation’ set up.Around 70 AD, and also spiritual. Still looking into it.
Did you watch my video? There is a lot you can learn from it.
I have watched Adventist videos, and studied prophecy with them. There’s no need to watch another one. I know what they believe already.
The abomination of desolation was verily fulfilled as Christ said in the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in AD 70.It applies to us no more>PERIOD!!! For all the scriptures were fulfilled according to St.Luke 21:22-The days of vengeance that ALL things which are written may be fulfilled. It is finished!
Ed, I believe the abomination of desolation was around 70 AD, but I believe there is still unfulfilled prophecy in Matthew 24. Pay attention. (Italics my own)
THE END OF THE AGE
As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” (aion: Definition: an age, a cycle (of time), especially of the present age as contrasted with the future age. http://biblehub.com/greek/165.htm) And Jesus answered them, “See that no one leads you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and they will lead many astray. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet. (end of what? End of the age) For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are but the beginning of the birth pains.
“Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake. And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another. And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world (oikoumené: Definition: (properly: the land that is being inhabited, the land in a state of habitation), the inhabited world, that is, the Roman world, for all outside it was regarded as of no account. http://biblehub.com/greek/3625.htm) as a testimony to all nations (Gentiles around Jerusalem http://biblehub.com/greek/1484.htm) and then the end (of the age) will come.
“So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let the one who is on the housetop not go down to take what is in his house, and let the one who is in the field not turn back to take his cloak. And alas for women who are pregnant and for those who are nursing infants in those days! Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a Sabbath. (Jerusalem 70 AD)
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THE END OF THE WORLD
Then (when? after the age and the destruction of Jerusalem which Jesus was just speaking about, because the age and the end of the age becomes now the world, different word used, and the end of the world and the return of Christ, soon to come) there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short. Then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you beforehand. (this warning about false christs is a repeat, firstly it was mentioned regarding the end of the age. I don’t think the repeat is accidental). So, if they say to you, ‘Look, he is in the wilderness,’ do not go out. If they say, ‘Look, he is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. (That hasn’t happened yet). Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.
“Immediately after the tribulation of those days (approaching the end of the world not the end of the age) the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
“From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near. So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates. Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.
“But concerning that day and hour (the return of Christ and end of the world) no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only. For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken (taken away in death) and one left (saved alive). Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left. Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
Did you watch my video? There is a lot you can learn from it.
I have watched Adventist videos, and studied prophecy with them. There’s no need to watch another one. I know what they believe already.
TWO QUESTIONS
1) What do YOU believe the ‘abomination of desolation’ is
– and –
2)In what year was the ‘abomination of desolation’ set up.Around 70 AD, and also spiritual. Still looking into it.
Hi Miia,
I don’t care what the seventh day Adventists believe.
The video that I posted is about the 70 weeks of Daniel,
and how the 70 weeks of Daniel’s Prophecy is about Christ.It also corroborates that Prophecy is “each day for a year”.
I suggest that you watch it, because you are lost in confusion
(with regard to Prophecy). I posted it again for your convenience:If you are still looking into it, I strongly suggest you watch my video
Absolutely no confusion on my part, Ed. The law and the prophets were unto John, (Luke 16.16). Then came grace and TRUTH, (John 1.17). No prophecy is a matter of ones own interpretation, (2 Peter 1.20). Peter says the heavens and earth will be destroyed, so does Jesus. Matthew 24 is split up into two parts. First part is the destruction of Jerusalem. Second part is the lead up to the destruction of the world. Prophecy still exists through the promise of dreams and visions, (Joel 2.28, Acts 2.17). But none of it is open to an alternative interpretation. Example, when I had the dream of a round ball falling from the sky, or the running and explosions, see how people tried to interpret that to mean something ELSE when it was straightforward. No prophecy is open to personal interpretation. When God says the earth will be destroyed through the mouth of Jesus and Peter, it means what it says. No ‘personal other interpretation’. And if something has no explanation, (the book of Revelation), leave it alone! I now see why the ancient church refused to read the book of Revelation unto their church, because they said it was too open to personal interpretations, and just look at people now.
Ed, as i said, I KNOW the Adventist interpretation of prophecy concerning the seventy weeks, etc, (and Steve Wohlberg is an Adventist). They do have SOME good points, but I do not believe the rest, and that’s why I left. No point watching what I have already learned, and forgotten.
Absolutely no confusion on my part, Ed.
Hi Miia,
If you want to stay lost in confusion by not watching that video that is your choice to make.
But when you give me the private interpretations of men I must remind you of God’s Prophecies.Absolutely no confusion on my part, Ed. The law and the prophets were unto John, (Luke 16.16). Then came grace and TRUTH, (John 1.17). (1)No prophecy is a matter of ones own interpretation, (2 Peter 1.20). Peter says the heavens and earth will be destroyed, so does Jesus. Matthew 24 is split up into two parts. First part is the destruction of Jerusalem. Second part is the lead up to the destruction of the world. Prophecy still exists through the promise of dreams and visions, (Joel 2.28, Acts 2.17). But none of it is open to an alternative interpretation. Example, when I had the dream of a round ball falling from the sky, or the running and explosions, see how people tried to interpret that to mean something ELSE when it was straightforward. No prophecy is open to personal interpretation. When God says the earth will be destroyed through the mouth of Jesus and Peter, it means what it says. No ‘personal other interpretation’. And if something has no explanation, (the book of Revelation), leave it alone! I now see why the ancient church refused to read the book of Revelation unto their church, because they said it was too open to personal interpretations, and just look at people now.
Hi Miia,
1) Explaining Prophecy to you does not make it a private interpretation, I will repost why for you
“If we receive the witness of men (their private interpretations of 70AD), the witness of God is greater” (1 John 5:9)
“We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed” (2Pt 1:19)Prophecy is given as “a day for a year” (ref. Ezekiel 4:6)
I have appointed thee “each day for a year” (Ezekiel 4:6)
“each day for a year” (Numbers 14:34) (<– second witness)The dome of the rock (abomination of desolation) was set up in 688AD.
“And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away,
and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall
be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.” (Dan 12:11)
The Babylonians captured Jerusalem in the year 603BC603BC + 1,290years = 688AD
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet,
stand in the holy place(on the Temple Mount), (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:” (Matt 24:15-16)688AD + 1,260years = 1948AD
“And the woman(Israel) fled into the wilderness(ref. Matt 24:16),
where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her
there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.” (Rev 12:6)Absolutely no confusion on my part, Ed. The law and the prophets were unto John, (Luke 16.16). Then came grace and TRUTH, (John 1.17). No prophecy is a matter of ones own interpretation, (2 Peter 1.20). Peter says the heavens and earth will be destroyed, so does Jesus. Matthew 24 is split up into two parts. First part is the destruction of Jerusalem. Second part is the lead up to the destruction of the world. (2)Prophecy still exists through the promise of dreams and visions, (Joel 2.28, Acts 2.17). But none of it is open to an alternative interpretation. Example, when I had the dream of a round ball falling from the sky, or the running and explosions, see how people tried to interpret that to mean something ELSE when it was straightforward. No prophecy is open to personal interpretation. When God says the earth will be destroyed through the mouth of Jesus and Peter, it means what it says. No ‘personal other interpretation’. And if something has no explanation, (the book of Revelation), leave it alone! I now see why the ancient church refused to read the book of Revelation unto their church, because they said it was too open to personal interpretations, and just look at people now.
Hi Miia,
2) “They have seen vanity and lying divination, saying, The LORD saith: and the LORD hath not sent them:
and they have made others to hope that they would confirm the word. Have ye not seen a vain vision,
and have ye not spoken a lying divination, whereas ye say, The LORD saith it; albeit I have not spoken?
(Ezek 13:6-7)Ed, cut the crap. Sorry, but I’m tired of your ignorance and disbelief at what Jesus said. Time will tell, time will tell. That’s all I’ve got to say.
Ed, cut the crap. Sorry, but I’m tired of your ignorance and disbelief at what Jesus said. Time will tell, time will tell. That’s all I’ve got to say.
Hi Miia,
As I told you before: your words do not get to override God’s word. You will be
waiting a very long time: because God hath established the earth forever.“He built his sanctuary like high palaces, like the earth which he hath established for ever.” (Psalms 78:69)
“Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.” (Psalms 104:5)As I told you before: you confuse the carnal mind with reality.
It is the “Rudiments” that gets burned up – NOT PHYSICAL REALITY“Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. And this word,
Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of
things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.” (Heb 12:26-27)________________
God bless
Ed JEd, no prophecy of scripture is a matter of private interpretation.
All of the law and prophets were until John.
Jesus not only fulfilled prophecy of the past, but he explained to the simple what was still to come.
Again, no prophecy of scripture is a matter of private interpretation.
Jesus said clearly what would become of Jerusalem. Fulfilled.
Jesus said clearly what would also happen to the world.
Nothing from the Old Testament needs reinterpretation.
Everything from the New Testament is already explained.
The abomination and desolation of Jerusalem was explained.
It does NOT mean thousands of years down the track, but pertains to those of Christ’s generation.
The destruction of the world by fire, and survival of God’s chosen is explained, and does NOT mean a spiritual burning up of error and secret return of Christ.
Again, no prophecy of scripture is a matter of private interpretation.
Jesus and his disciples TOLD us ‘exactly’ what would happen.
If we all took your view, then we can spiritualize away ANYTHING.
I can go and commit sin and say Jesus actually did not mean what he said, but meant SOMETHING ELSE.
I can say, the world will not be destroyed by fire, because Jesus meant ‘something else’, then ‘bam’ – oops, was wrong. TOO LATE.
Vanity vanity, all is vanity.
The abomination and desolation of Jerusalem was explained.
1) What is the abomination of desolation then?
2) And in what year was it set up?If we all took your view, then we can spiritualize away ANYTHING.
Hi Miia,
You mean like God giving Israel the land forever?
“For I the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.” (Mal 3:6)Mal 3:6 according you is not true, according you he does change, and they will be consumed
Vanity of vanities saith the preacher
“we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a
new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.” (2Peter 3:13)”thou renewest the face of the earth” (Psalms 104:30)
“Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither
what they say, nor whereof they affirm.” (1Timothy 1:7)
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