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- January 4, 2013 at 10:21 pm#3268232beseeParticipant
Quote 1.The first coming is his birth. agree? y/n Yes. First advent.
Quote 2. Pantecost was the holy spirit send to the apostles.agree? y/n Yes, agree.
Quote 3. His kingdom is coming;not here yet. agree?y/n His kingdom is to come, but the kingdom is in heaven.
Quote 4.His second coming is near future. agree? y/n Yes.
Quote 5. Therefore the first resurrection is near future. agree?y/n No. The second resurrection is near future.
Quote 6.Satan will not be killed at the first resurrection.agree?y/n It is not for us to speak about what God does to Satan. (Jude 1:8-13)
Quote 7.Only the beast and the false prophet will be cast in the fire. agree?y/n As above.
Quote 8. After 1000yrs satan will be killed in the battle of gog and magog .agree?y/n As above.
January 5, 2013 at 3:36 am#326833WakeupParticipantQuote (2besee @ Jan. 05 2013,08:21) Quote 1.The first coming is his birth. agree? y/n Yes. First advent.
Quote 2. Pantecost was the holy spirit send to the apostles.agree? y/n Yes, agree.
Quote 3. His kingdom is coming;not here yet. agree?y/n His kingdom is to come, but the kingdom is in heaven.
Quote 4.His second coming is near future. agree? y/n Yes.
Quote 5. Therefore the first resurrection is near future. agree?y/n No. The second resurrection is near future.
Quote 6.Satan will not be killed at the first resurrection.agree?y/n It is not for us to speak about what God does to Satan. (Jude 1:8-13)
Quote 7.Only the beast and the false prophet will be cast in the fire. agree?y/n As above.
Quote 8. After 1000yrs satan will be killed in the battle of gog and magog .agree?y/n As above.
2Besee.You say the the second resurrection is near future.So the first resurrection has passed.
Tell me then:
1. When did the first resurrection occur?
since you say it has passed.2. You said; its not for us to know what God does to satan,
is a cop out:For the scripture is clear.
It says in rev.19:20 that the beast and the false
prophet;will be cast in the fire.
NO SATAN CAST IN THE FIRE AT THIS COMING.
What you say?3. So when will satan be killed?
We know that satan will be killed in the battle of gog
and magog.rev.20:10.
He will be cast in the fire;where the beast and the false
prophet were cast in previously.Is there a third coming, to cast satan in the fire?
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The second coming:/the first resurrection:/beast and f.prophet cast in the fire.NOT SATAN.(rev.19:20).In the battle of gog and magog/1000yrs later:/after satan was let loose for a season:/ he was killed; BY GOD HIMSELF.(rev.20:9.10).
Rev.20:9. and fire came down from God out of heaven,and devoured them.
Christ will kill the beast and the false prophet.(second coming).
And 1000yrs later God himself will kill satan.(war of gog and magog).
They are 1000yrs apart.This is he big error; they have made;mixing the two happenings together.wakeup.
January 5, 2013 at 4:09 pm#326839GeneBalthropParticipantWakeup……….. I think what 2besee is saying is ….> The first resurection was Jesus, He was the first to be resurected from the Dead, from mankind, next will follow the general resurection of the Saints, and after a 1000 years the final resurection of all mankind.
Where does it say a Satan will be Killed? remember Fire in scripture can mean intense Judgement ” now concerning the firey trial which has tried you as if some strrange thing has happened unto you” Peter said.
If you have some inpure metal and you put it in a Fire it will melt and the Dross will float up to the top and can be scraped of leaving pur metal, so it is with Gods Judgements they are like fire, for our God is a comsumming fire scripture says. Also remember when Paul said every mans work will be tried by Fire and if he has built with Silver and Godl and precious stone he would have a reward , but if he has built with Wood , hay , or stuble, he would suffer a loss becasue the fire will test every mans work and the wood, straw, and stuble wouldbe burnd up , but it goes on to say , but he himself shall be saved yet as by fire . There is a lot of symbolic use of the word Fire in scripture Wakeup.
peace and love to you and yours……………………………………………gene
January 5, 2013 at 7:50 pm#326848WakeupParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 06 2013,02:09) Wakeup……….. I think what 2besee is saying is ….> The first resurection was Jesus, He was the first to be resurected from the Dead, from mankind, next will follow the general resurection of the Saints, and after a 1000 years the final resurection of all mankind. Where does it say a Satan will be Killed? remember Fire in scripture can mean intense Judgement ” now concerning the trial which has tried you as if some strrange thing has happened unto you” Peter said.
If you have some inpure metal and you put it in a Fire it will melt and the Dross will float up to the top and can be scraped of leaving pur metal, so it is with Gods Judgements they are like fire, for our God is a comsumming fire scripture says. Also remember when Paul said every mans work will be tried by Fire and if he has built with Silver and Godl and precious stone he would have a reward , but if he has built with Wood , hay , or stuble, he would suffer a loss becasue the fire will test every mans work and the wood, straw, and stuble wouldbe burnd up , but it goes on to say , but he himself shall be saved yet as by fire . There is a lot of symbolic use of the word Fire in scripture Wakeup.
peace and love to you and yours……………………………………………gene
Gene.B.I understand what you are saying.
Scripture is clear regarding satans destruction.Revelation 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: *AND FIRE CAME DOWN FROM GOD* out of heaven, and DEVOURED THEM.
Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was *CAST INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE AND BRIMSTONE*, *WHERE THE BEAST AND THE FALE PROPHET ARE*, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
***********Metal taken from the dirt,only contains a certain percentage of metal,when it is melted down: the rest is dross.
But if wood was burned;it will only leave ashes.
The wood represents the wicked.The metal in dirt represents,the majority christians; they only have a certain part of metal,the rest is just dross. Metal is still metal, but a small quantity only,some even less.
The pure metal represents the saints.(for God had purified them).
The ones that follow the Lamb wheresoever he goes.(rev14:4).So when we; as metal in dirt; will be tried by fire,then everyone will show how much metal hes got,and the dross will be cast out.
Every ones reward is according to his work.(rev22:12).
wakeup.
January 5, 2013 at 8:11 pm#326849WakeupParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 06 2013,02:09) Wakeup……….. I think what 2besee is saying is ….> The first resurection was Jesus, He was the first to be resurected from the Dead, from mankind, next will follow the general resurection of the Saints, and after a 1000 years the final resurection of all mankind. Where does it say a Satan will be Killed? remember Fire in scripture can mean intense Judgement ” now concerning the trial which has tried you as if some strrange thing has happened unto you” Peter said.
If you have some inpure metal and you put it in a Fire it will melt and the Dross will float up to the top and can be scraped of leaving pur metal, so it is with Gods Judgements they are like fire, for our God is a comsumming fire scripture says. Also remember when Paul said every mans work will be tried by Fire and if he has built with Silver and Godl and precious stone he would have a reward , but if he has built with Wood , hay , or stuble, he would suffer a loss becasue the fire will test every mans work and the wood, straw, and stuble wouldbe burnd up , but it goes on to say , but he himself shall be saved yet as by fire . There is a lot of symbolic use of the word Fire in scripture Wakeup.
peace and love to you and yours……………………………………………gene
Gene b.Christ resurrection is the beginning of the first resurrection.
He is the start of the first resurrection.(many will follow).
He does not represent *THE* first resurrection.The one and only man.
Many will follow him in this first resurrection.THEY HAVE used Christ resurrection to patch up the hole in their doctrine of error,and made HIM as *THE* complete first resurrection.
The first resurrection is coming. Jesus has opened the way;
He has gone forth first,to receive his brethren.The second resurrection is coming,after the first.
wakeup.
January 5, 2013 at 11:42 pm#3268622beseeParticipantHi Gene, I am Amillenial. I do not believe in a future temporary Kingdom but I wait for Gods permanent Kingdom.
Listen to this, okay, it explains my beliefs:
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=63011831190
I am against the future temporary thousand year millennium belief. To me it gives people false hope. The day of salvation is NOW, there is no second chance. When Jesus returns, that is it, the Door will be closed.
January 5, 2013 at 11:45 pm#3268632beseeParticipantGene, click on 'Play Audio' or 'Download MP3'.
January 5, 2013 at 11:47 pm#3268652beseeParticipantI rejected the eternal Hell doctrine and I reject the future temporary kingdom where evil still exists, in the same way, for some reason. Anything else I can tolerate.
January 5, 2013 at 11:49 pm#3268662beseeParticipantThe thousand years is now. It has been the past 2000 years approximately. God will come, Jesus will come, and the end will come. This will be the Day of the Lord. One day is one day.
January 5, 2013 at 11:50 pm#3268672beseeParticipantGod destroyed the earth with water, God will again destroy the earth with fire. Only this time, it will be different. It will be permamant. There will be no more tears and no more suffering, no more sadness, ever again.
January 6, 2013 at 12:01 am#326869terrariccaParticipantQuote (2besee @ Jan. 06 2013,04:42) Hi Gene, I am Amillenial. I do not believe in a future temporary Kingdom but I wait for Gods permanent Kingdom. Listen to this, okay, it explains my beliefs:
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=63011831190
I am against the future temporary thousand year millennium belief. To me it gives people false hope. The day of salvation is NOW, there is no second chance. When Jesus returns, that is it, the Door will be closed.
2beeQuote I am Amillenial. I do not believe in a future temporary Kingdom but I wait for Gods permanent Kingdom. me too I wait for that permanent kingdom ,I would not understand any one who do not ,
January 6, 2013 at 12:03 am#326870WakeupParticipantQuote (2besee @ Jan. 06 2013,09:42) Hi Gene, I am Amillenial. I do not believe in a future temporary Kingdom but I wait for Gods permanent Kingdom. Listen to this, okay, it explains my beliefs:
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=63011831190
I am against the future temporary thousand year millennium belief. To me it gives people false hope. The day of salvation is NOW, there is no second chance. When Jesus returns, that is it, the Door will be closed.
2Besee.You are simply ignoring scriptures; why,and what for?
1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: CHRIST THE FIRST FRUIT; AFTERWARD they that are Christ's AT HIS COMING. (near future/the first resurrection).
1 Corinthians 15:24 Then cometh the end, WHEN HE SHALL HAVE **DELIVERED UP** THE KINGDOM TO GOD, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.(when he has achieved his second dominion).
1 Corinthians 15:25 FOR HE MUST REIGN, *TILL* HE HATH PUT ALL ENEMIES UNDER HIS FEET.(untill satan is cast in the fire. gog/magog).
HE WILL REIGN FOR A 1000YRS IN HIS KINGDOM;AND THEN HAND IT OVER TO HIS FATHER.
wakeup.
January 6, 2013 at 12:06 am#3268722beseeParticipantHi Wakeup,
Satan the Devil has been limited in power for thousands of years now, which is the only way the Gospel of the coming Kingdom of God could be taken around the world, free of Satan's influence to deceive the whole world.
Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom judgment was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony to Jesus and for the word of God, and who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life, and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection.
Blessed and holy is he who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and they shall reign with him a thousand years.So Satan in Revelation, just before the coming of Jesus, will be, as it says, let loose from his “prison” one LAST TIME.
And when the thousand years are ended (thousand meaning a very long time – the thousands of years in which the nations were not being deceived), then Satan will be loosed from his prison and will come out to DECEIVE the nations which are at the four corners of the earth, that is, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; THEIR NUMBER IS LIKE THE SAND OF THE SEA (Now, don't you think this fits better with today? We are a world of people – ready to fight – our numbers are huge – as huge as the figurative sand of the sea – never before has the world been so ready to BATTLE.).
Jesus came and “locked up Satan” (symbolically speaking) possibly at the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD (Rev 19:11) in such a way that he has been limited in power for the past “thousands” of years, and that he is now – or soon will be – let lose again, to try and deceive the world one LAST TIME, and that at the return of Jesus again (Rev 20:7 onwards) all badness will be destroyed once and for all and it will be the end of this world as we know it and the beginning of the new –
Just because Satan has been limited in power does not mean that evil ceases to exist, evil will continue until the end.
People have been persecuted from the beginning and still are till this day in many countries, HOWEVER, when Satan is let loose from his “symbolic prison” toward the end, he will GATHER people, from all over the world, to bring them to the great battle of Armageddon, he will influence the mind of LEADERS, and media etc, who will then influence the mind of the PEOPLE.
And they marched up over the broad earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city; but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the LAKE OF FIRE and sulphur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Then I saw a great WHITE THRONE and him who sat upon it; from his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them.
And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and BOOKS WERE OPENED. Also another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were JUDGED by what was written in the books, by what they had done.
And the sea gave up the dead in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead in them, and all were judged by what they had DONE.
Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of FIRE this is the SECOND DEATH, the lake of fire; and if any one's name was not found written in the book of life, he was THROWN INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.
Now look at the match in Matthew 25:
“When the Son of man comes in his GLORY, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his GLORIOUS THRONE.
Before him will be gathered ALL THE NATIONS, and he will SEPARATE THEM one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, and he will place the sheep at his right hand, but the goats at the left.
Then the King will say to those at his right hand, `Come, O blessed of my Father, INHERIT THE KINGDOM prepared for you from the foundation of the world;
Then he will say to those at his left hand, `Depart from me, you cursed, into the ETERNAL FIRE prepared for the DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS.
Revelations 21 – this is the new heaven and the new earth…………
God's Kingdom will be final and will be eternal, just as his return will not be in SECRET as some people say. EVERY EYE WILL SEE THE COMING OF THE SON OF GOD.
Maranatha, come Lord Jesus.
Sorry so long, (I actually copied and pasted this from another thread here!(:
I am away fro a week but please look up the Jewish understanding of the harvest, it is is interesting.
Take care God bless.January 6, 2013 at 12:09 am#3268742beseeParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Jan. 06 2013,12:01) me too I wait for that permanent kingdom ,I would not understand any one who do not ,
Amen T…January 6, 2013 at 12:22 am#326876WakeupParticipantQuote (2besee @ Jan. 06 2013,10:06) Hi Wakeup, Satan the Devil has been limited in power for thousands of years now, which is the only way the Gospel of the coming Kingdom of God could be taken around the world, free of Satan's influence to deceive the whole world.
Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom judgment was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony to Jesus and for the word of God, and who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life, and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection.
Blessed and holy is he who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and they shall reign with him a thousand years.So Satan in Revelation, just before the coming of Jesus, will be, as it says, let loose from his “prison” one LAST TIME.
And when the thousand years are ended (thousand meaning a very long time – the thousands of years in which the nations were not being deceived), then Satan will be loosed from his prison and will come out to DECEIVE the nations which are at the four corners of the earth, that is, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; THEIR NUMBER IS LIKE THE SAND OF THE SEA (Now, don't you think this fits better with today? We are a world of people – ready to fight – our numbers are huge – as huge as the figurative sand of the sea – never before has the world been so ready to BATTLE.).
Jesus came and “locked up Satan” (symbolically speaking) possibly at the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD (Rev 19:11) in such a way that he has been limited in power for the past “thousands” of years, and that he is now – or soon will be – let lose again, to try and deceive the world one LAST TIME, and that at the return of Jesus again (Rev 20:7 onwards) all badness will be destroyed once and for all and it will be the end of this world as we know it and the beginning of the new –
Just because Satan has been limited in power does not mean that evil ceases to exist, evil will continue until the end.
People have been persecuted from the beginning and still are till this day in many countries, HOWEVER, when Satan is let loose from his “symbolic prison” toward the end, he will GATHER people, from all over the world, to bring them to the great battle of Armageddon, he will influence the mind of LEADERS, and media etc, who will then influence the mind of the PEOPLE.
And they marched up over the broad earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city; but fire came down from heaven and consumed them, and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the LAKE OF FIRE and sulphur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Then I saw a great WHITE THRONE and him who sat upon it; from his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them.
And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and BOOKS WERE OPENED. Also another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were JUDGED by what was written in the books, by what they had done.
And the sea gave up the dead in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead in them, and all were judged by what they had DONE.
Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of FIRE this is the SECOND DEATH, the lake of fire; and if any one's name was not found written in the book of life, he was THROWN INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.
Now look at the match in Matthew 25:
“When the Son of man comes in his GLORY, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his GLORIOUS THRONE.
Before him will be gathered ALL THE NATIONS, and he will SEPARATE THEM one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats, and he will place the sheep at his right hand, but the goats at the left.
Then the King will say to those at his right hand, `Come, O blessed of my Father, INHERIT THE KINGDOM prepared for you from the foundation of the world;
Then he will say to those at his left hand, `Depart from me, you cursed, into the ETERNAL FIRE prepared for the DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS.
Revelations 21 – this is the new heaven and the new earth…………
God's Kingdom will be final and will be eternal, just as his return will not be in SECRET as some people say. EVERY EYE WILL SEE THE COMING OF THE SON OF GOD.
Maranatha, come Lord Jesus.
Sorry so long, (I actually copied and pasted this from another thread here!(:
I am away fro a week but please look up the Jewish understanding of the harvest, it is is interesting.
Take care God bless.
2Besee.Satan love that doctrine;so he is not responsible for all the wars during the centuries.He is innocent.He was in prison.
Well who is responsible?1.You still have not answered my questions.
When did the first resurrection occur?2. Why was satan spared at the coming, after he was released from his prison?
3. Where is gog and magog mentioned in revelation 19.
For this is the coming of Jesus, the Word of God, King of Kings, and Lord of Lords.wakeup.
January 6, 2013 at 12:53 am#3268822beseeParticipantHi Wakeup,
Back soon, sorry for the delays.January 6, 2013 at 2:49 pm#326911WakeupParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Jan. 06 2013,10:01) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 06 2013,04:42) Hi Gene, I am Amillenial. I do not believe in a future temporary Kingdom but I wait for Gods permanent Kingdom. Listen to this, okay, it explains my beliefs:
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=63011831190
I am against the future temporary thousand year millennium belief. To me it gives people false hope. The day of salvation is NOW, there is no second chance. When Jesus returns, that is it, the Door will be closed.
2beeQuote I am Amillenial. I do not believe in a future temporary Kingdom but I wait for Gods permanent Kingdom. me too I wait for that permanent kingdom ,I would not understand any one who do not ,
Terra.You believe the second coming is the second resurrection;
Then tell me, when did the first resurrection happen?wakeup.
January 6, 2013 at 5:00 pm#326915GeneBalthropParticipant2besee………..Lets take something into consideration here. Lets (suppose) that God had a time period in place for his work ,”for a short work will God make of the earth “, and let take what Peter said regarding God's timing as being a day equals a thousand years Now if we use that here is what we get, there were approx two thousand years before the flood, (2 days) there were approximately two thousand years to Christ Jesus (4 days) there has been approximately two thousand years from Jesus death to now, (6 days) So if there is a 7 days in God's plan then the Seventh day is about to begin right?
That seventh day is reckoned as a Sabbath to God when everything goes into a rest period, for there remains a Keeping of the Sabbath unto the people of God this Sabbath day is a thousand year period or the Millennial reign of Jesus and the Saints on this earth when Evil will be removed and placed in a bottomless Pit, (why bottomless? because there is no end to evil) when that happens even the nature of animals will be changed also, the lion shall lie down with the Lamb, and a child shall lead them That 7th Day in the thousand year plan will be one of Great Peace and all people will be willing in those days and great peace will prevail , because God will have removed Evil influence from the earth. for that Sabbath day period, which is 1000 years. Then at the end Evil will be released back on the earth.
The Nations will turn against the Saints and Jesus The king, a Hugh army will emerge from all over the world and the Saints and Jesus will withdraw to Jerusalem and the massive army will surround them and then God will pour down Fire on them and devour them all.
Now on the surface this doesn't make sense, because why would God allow this to take place on people who know all of his law and were taught all his commandment for a thousand years they even were keeping the Feast of the tabernacles as said in Zackariah . So the question remains what would be the reason for all of this?.
There really is a simple answer, When the millennial regain of Jesus and the saints start, all those Saints and Jesus have the Holy Spirit of God “IN” them , while the rest of the people in the world did not have the Spirit of God “IN” them. They never had to resist evil because there was no evil in existence during that thousand year period. But notice as soon as it was released back on the earth they all < (except the Saint and Jesus) followed that evil influence.
So what is the simple point? , this , If God is not “IN” you by His HOLY SPIRIT and Keeping you and evil is present, chances are you will follow or secum to it no matter how much Good you have experience in you life. This thousand year Period Proves it take God Spirit to be permanently in us to keep us from sin or doing evil.
If those people would have remained Good and resisted evil them they could have said, who needs God's Spirit when we can do Good on our own, another words they simple could have been (I GOD'S) . And another reason for the thousand year Period is to show us also, because we could say well we were born under evil influences and so that is why we sinned, if Evil was not present and influencing us we could have been perfect with out God.
So by what takes place at the end of the Millennial Period God closes all mouths To let us all understand that He alone is righteous and he alone must Keep us from Sinning by his Holy Spirit being “IN” us>. A very simple lession but a very, very, very, important one.
After this the complete week in the plan of God will be finnished , a another week starts another 7 thousand years will begain , and as God Said Behold I make all thing New a new week begins.
So to me 2besee God himself does not completely take over till Jesus truns over the Kingdom of David over to God and then God the Father himself will rule for ever and ever. Starting with a new week in God's Plan. The LORD (YEHWEH) our GOD will receive the kingdom from Jesus and from that time on will it be called the KINGDOM OF GOD on this earth.
2besee…..> Think about Job who had God's Shield around him (like those in the 1000 year period will have) and see how harsh God had to deal with Job afterward, because of a possibe self rightiousness beginning to develop in him, and Remember where it Says that they (those in the millianim period) would wear out the Saint of the most high, How can you telll someone who is doing everything right they need to repent and saved?
peace and love to you and yours………………………………………………………………gene
January 7, 2013 at 1:53 am#326929Ed JParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 07 2013,03:00) 2besee………..Lets take something into consideration here. Lets (suppose) that God had a time period in place for his work ,”for a short work will God make of the earth “, and let take what Peter said regarding God's timing as being a day equals a thousand years Now if we use that here is what we get, there were approx two thousand years before the flood, (2 days) there were approximately two thousand years to Christ Jesus (4 days) there has been approximately two thousand years from Jesus death to now, (6 days) So if there is a 7 days in God's plan then the Seventh day is about to begin right? peace and love to you and yours………………………………………………………………gene
Hi Gene,Your idea also has backup in Hosea 6:2…
0 AD to 2,000 AD equals two days, thus 2,000-3,000 would be the third day.
That puts “The Latter Rain” in our time. Christians don't know their bible very well. …good Job Gene!Hosea 6:1-3 Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning;
and he shall come unto us as the rain, as [the latter rain(151)] and [former rain(117)] unto the earth.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJanuary 7, 2013 at 2:42 pm#326982WakeupParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2013,11:53) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 07 2013,03:00) 2besee………..Lets take something into consideration here. Lets (suppose) that God had a time period in place for his work ,”for a short work will God make of the earth “, and let take what Peter said regarding God's timing as being a day equals a thousand years Now if we use that here is what we get, there were approx two thousand years before the flood, (2 days) there were approximately two thousand years to Christ Jesus (4 days) there has been approximately two thousand years from Jesus death to now, (6 days) So if there is a 7 days in God's plan then the Seventh day is about to begin right? peace and love to you and yours………………………………………………………………gene
Hi Gene,Your idea also has backup in Hosea 6:2…
0 AD to 2,000 AD equals two days, thus 2,000-3,000 would be the third day.
That puts “The Latter Rain” in our time. Christians don't know their bible very well. …good Job Gene!Hosea 6:1-3 Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
2 After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth is prepared as the morning;
and he shall come unto us as the rain, as [the latter rain(151)] and [former rain(117)] unto the earth.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.So do you agree now, that he will raise us up in the 3th day. And we will know him.
The 3rd day would be the 1000yr kingdom; then we will know the Lord,for knowlege in the earth will be as the sea cover the earth.
So the second coming would be to bring us into the 3rd day,the 1000yr kingdom. This would be his first dominion.
The second dominion would be the whole earth,after the earth is melted down,and a new earth created.But not before the second resurrection of the sheep and the goat.
And satan destroyed.The second coming would be the first resurrection,because the 144000 will be the first fruits.
There can not be a previous resurrection,because the first fruits are the FIRST RESURRECTED.
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