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I see he's started the thread. I'll be anxiously reading it to find out how Trinitarians and Non-Trinitarians are both right.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 14 2012,11:16) As a side note, I would like to see how Ed thinks Trinis and Non-Trinis can both be right. One group believes in a God made up of three distinct persons. The other in a God who has a Son that is NOT God.
How are they both right, Ed?
Hi Mike,Come and discuss it with me in the thread I started,
this thread is only about comparing “paradoxes” to it. he he he he!!!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (david @ Feb. 14 2012,12:18) Quote As a side note, I would like to see how Ed thinks Trinis and Non-Trinis can both be right. This is what I wonder too. But, he said it's a paradox. I'm still not sure he understands that word. I think he should have just said it's a mystery.
Example: It would be a paradox if:
“The trinity being true is what actually made it false, and it being false is what actually makes it true.”
Things like this are paradox.
Hi David,Both sides on this issue 'thinks' they are right and the other is wrong. …do you not see the similarity to what you say?
They are indeed right, but they are also wrong; but only in believing the other is wrong, when they are right as well!See David, I'm keeping this thread on topic for you!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgA LESSON IN PARADOX
Quote Both sides on this issue 'thinks' they are right and the other is wrong. …do you not see the similarity to what you say?
They are indeed right, but they are also wrong; but only in believing the other is wrong, when they are right as well!Although I see you trying to make this a paradox, no such thing exists here.
A. Trinitiarians are right. (And you say this is right.)
B. Non-trinitarians are right. (And you say this is right.)C. Trinitarians say non-trinitarians are wrong. (And you say this is wrong of them to do because B.)
D. Non-trinitiarians say trinitarians are wrong. (And you say this is wrong of them to do because A.)You try to make this a paradox by saying: They are indeed right, but they are also wrong
That is the kind of sentence that sounds like a paradox. And it might be a paradox IF they were BOTH simultaneous right AND wrong ABOUT THE SAME THING!
But, you are saying they are each right about their belief about the trinity/nontrinity belief, and they are each wrong about something else–their belief about the other sides belief.
No PARADOX here.
Breaking it down, C and D have no hint of a paradox.
A and B are a paradox if simultaneously both are somehow magically true despite being completely polar opposite definitions of each other.The C and D thing just confuses the issue, and they don't relate to any paradox here.
Quote (david @ Feb. 15 2012,12:25) A LESSON IN PARADOX A. Trinitiarians are right. (And you say this is right.)
B. Non-trinitarians are right. (And you say this is right.)C. Trinitarians say non-trinitarians are wrong. (And you say this is wrong of them to do because B.)
D. Non-trinitiarians say trinitarians are wrong. (And you say this is wrong of them to do because A.)You try to make this a paradox by saying: They are indeed right, but they are also wrong
That is the kind of sentence that sounds like a paradox.
Hi David,
C & D both illustrate a paradox
And this statement IS Paradoxical:“they(T&nT) are indeed right(Fa.&Ga.), but they(T&nT) are also wrong(Fb.&Gb.)”
(also explained by C&D pertaining to A&B)
F&G is a Dichotomy, BECAUSE BOTH CANNOT BE CORRECT!
F. a.(nT)Non-trinitarians are right / b.(T)trinitarians are wrongG. a.(T)Trinitiarians are right / b.(nT)non-trinitarians are wrong.
The lie of each of these (F&G) is used by both sides in an attempt to nullify the truth of “The Paradox” of A&B!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (david @ Feb. 12 2012,17:10) Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 12 2012,17:05) Hi David, Calling a spade a spade is NOT the issue here.
The problem is: calling someone wrong that isn't.God bless
Ed J
Apparently, paradoxes are hard to understand.I told you both views [trinity/non-trinity] are correct,
the part that is wrong, is calling
the other persons view wrong.Are you not saying it is wrong to call the other persons view wrong?
Of course it is wrong to “call someone wrong that isn't.” But since everyone always believes they are right, the party that you are calling wrong, will always think you are wrong to call them wrong. 🙂
Hi David,Therein lies the “Paradox”,
glad you now pointed it out.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (david @ Feb. 12 2012,07:29) The trinitarian and non-trinitarian views are both correct.
It can be compared to the understanding of a Paradox.I have many books on paradox's. I am just wondering what others think of Ed's statement that he made on Feb 12th in the “Beware of Leaven” thread.
Comments?
What do you call two doctors?a paradox!
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