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- August 25, 2010 at 2:10 pm#213769GeneBalthropParticipant
To All………All thinking is spoken in words, Word are intellects expressed and are derived from the Spirit (intellect) and can be expressed through wind gong over our vocal cords or Written down, they simply are (expression of our minds) ” So a man thinks so he is”. Why complicate it , it's just that simple. We are what our word are as God is what his words are, there is no different between God and us when it comes to Words, except His Word are accurate and true always , while our are not> IMO
peace and love……………………..gene
August 26, 2010 at 2:07 am#213856davidbfunParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 26 2010,09:10) To All………All thinking is spoken in words, Word are intellects expressed and are derived from the Spirit (intellect) and can be expressed through wind gong over our vocal cords or Written down, they simply are (expression of our minds) ” So a man thinks so he is”. Why complicate it , it's just that simple. We are what our word are as God is what his words are, there is no different between God and us when it comes to Words, except His Word are accurate and true always , while our are not> IMO peace and love……………………..gene
Gene,Where do you get your ideas?
Spirit = intellect
Sorry! The word intellect doesn't occur in the NASB.
The Professor
August 26, 2010 at 4:23 am#213885GeneBalthropParticipantDBF……..Here somehting for you to think about , “TRY THE SPIRITS TO SEE IF THEY ARE OF GOD” So what are we to rty is it not what some one is saying and does not those words come from his (INTELLECT) think abut it it might dawn on you. Spirit and Intellect is one and the same thing “SO A MAN THINKS SO HE IS” . Is the light beginning to shine yet.
peace and love………………..gene
August 26, 2010 at 6:08 pm#213982davidbfunParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 26 2010,23:23) DBF……..Here somehting for you to think about , “TRY THE SPIRITS TO SEE IF THEY ARE OF GOD” So what are we to rty is it not what some one is saying and does not those words come from his (INTELLECT) think abut it it might dawn on you. Spirit and Intellect is one and the same thing “SO A MAN THINKS SO HE IS” . Is the light beginning to shine yet. peace and love………………..gene
Hi Gene,I've really tried to see your point. A little while back I pointed out that 3 maybe 4 of the 7 Spirits of the Holy Spirit did deal with “Intellect” (Knowledge, Understanding, Wisdom, Counsel). However the Holy Spirit is life giving whereas intellect comes from the “life” and is not the source.
Me and you have intellect but that is not our soul or spirit, it is only a function.
The Professor
August 27, 2010 at 7:41 am#214069Ed JParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 25 2010,23:55) EDj……… WHAT” , Who said we all preexisted thats is you talking not Me. Remember i do not believe in Preexistence that is your dogmas if you believe that, not mine. While we may all have preexisted in the Plan and Will of GOD the is true , but that is not saying we existed as (BEINGS) before we were born. What does what i have posted have to do with that. And who is calling anyone names , i am talking about the Spirit (intellect) of Antichrist as relating to false teaching of the preexistence of Jesus as a (BEING) before his berth here on earth. peace and love…………………………..gene
Hi Gene,More name calling I see? I started a thread for you… (Click Here)
Ed J (Daniel 11:18 / Eccl.9:12-16)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgAugust 27, 2010 at 4:17 pm#214106GeneBalthropParticipantEDj………..I am not talking about one in particular but the Antichrist teachings of Jesus preexistence and the Trinity. These (are ) the SPIRIT (INTELLECT) of Antichrist. They have there origins on Greek and Roman pagan mythology teachings and are not found in any old testament scriptures but only in text that have been forced to those conclusion by false teachers who crept into the true church as John said they would. If your or anyone fits into this then let the scriptures condemn it not me. No one made me a judge over anyone here. IMO
peace and love……………………………………gene
August 28, 2010 at 12:11 am#214166davidbfunParticipantFrom Nick Hassan,
Hi ED,
We seem to have seen these before but only one verse says lucifer.
One verse theologies generally are deceptions.August 28, 2010 at 12:18 am#214168davidbfunParticipantGene,
Jesus, just as you, speak words. The words come from the mouth but Jesus explained that his words were taught to him by his Father.
Word in John 1:1 is either a “title” or a “name” because the Word became flesh v14….and is identified as the only begotten from the Father. Who is this? Jesus.
Or who do you say Word is? How do you determine?
Word cannot be God because Word was WITH God.
The Professor
August 28, 2010 at 12:29 am#214172Ed JParticipantQuote (davidbfun @ Aug. 28 2010,11:11) From Nick Hassan, Hi ED,
We seem to have seen these before but only one verse says lucifer.
One verse theologies generally are deceptions.
Hi DBF,What do you mean from Nick Hassan?
August 28, 2010 at 1:04 am#214183davidbfunParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2010,19:29) Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 28 2010,11:11) From Nick Hassan, Hi ED,
We seem to have seen these before but only one verse says lucifer.
One verse theologies generally are deceptions.
Hi DBF,What do you mean from Nick Hassan?
Ed,I clicked on the “click here” that you put in your post and this is what he said….
Didn't know why you wanted us to go there…..
August 28, 2010 at 2:35 am#214203Ed JParticipantQuote (davidbfun @ Aug. 28 2010,12:04) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2010,19:29) Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 28 2010,11:11) From Nick Hassan, Hi ED,
We seem to have seen these before but only one verse says lucifer.
One verse theologies generally are deceptions.
Hi DBF,What do you mean from Nick Hassan?
Ed,I clicked on the “click here” that you put in your post and this is what he said….
Didn't know why you wanted us to go there…..
Hi David,I know why I wanted Gene to go there, but 'you' apparently don't.
August 28, 2010 at 2:52 am#214206davidbfunParticipantNo Ed,
I didn't know why….but, I peeked.
August 28, 2010 at 3:09 am#214207Ed JParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2010,18:41) Gene wrote:EDj……… WHAT” , Who said we all preexisted thats is you talking not Me. Remember i do not believe in Preexistence that is your dogmas if you believe that, not mine. While we may all have preexisted in the Plan and Will of GOD the is true , but that is not saying we existed as (BEINGS) before we were born. What does what i have posted have to do with that. And who is calling anyone names , i am talking about the Spirit (intellect) of Antichrist as relating to false teaching of the preexistence of Jesus as a (BEING) before his berth here on earth.
peace and love…………………………..gene
Hi David,Here is what Gene said. Take another peek. (Click Here)
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgAugust 28, 2010 at 3:15 am#214209davidbfunParticipantEd,
Here is what Gene said:
ED J………Jesus is being displayed as a GOD, that is creating a MAN OF SIN, anyone Who thinks His Will is “FREE” is a GOD unto himself, “know you not that your (ARE) the temples of the living GOD”. But man takes his stand in this temple not as a son of GOD, but as A GOD Himself and this is very easily seen by his attachment to HIS (so-called) “FREE” WILL. In that kind of thinking Man has taken his position as a GOD unto himself. As long as a man abides this way He will abide alone He must first Die (to Self) and them live (WITH) GOD together in the temple God gives him with GOD. Free will ideology is the very (Adversary) or Satan to GOD and it is Man HIMSELF> Not some spook running around jumping in and out of People. IMO
It has nothing to do with this thread that I can see.
August 28, 2010 at 3:43 am#214217Ed JParticipantHi Dbf,
I will use 'your' words here…
Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 27 2010,03:30) As usual, no Scripture and misdirection. Matt.7:1-2 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged:
and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgAugust 28, 2010 at 4:05 am#214226davidbfunParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 28 2010,22:43) Hi Dbf, I will use 'your' words here…
Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 27 2010,03:30) As usual, no Scripture and misdirection. Matt.7:1-2 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged:
and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,So is this what you are doing on purpose? Misdirecting?
August 28, 2010 at 4:13 am#214228GeneBalthropParticipantTo All……………A word is and intelligent (EXPRESSION OF THE MIND) RATHER WRITTEN OR (UTTERED). Rather the mind of GOD or of Man makes no different. A word spoken from ones own mind is the same as the person himself. “SO A MAN THINKS SO HE (IS). GOD AND HIS WORDS ARE ONE AND THE SAME. “the word i am speaking to you (ARE) spirit (intellect) and Life”. Jesus spoke (GODS) word not his to us. God and his word are one and the same. “IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD AND THE WORD WAS WITH GOD (JUST AS YOUR WORDS ARE WITH YOU) AND THE WORD (WAS) GOD. How clear, how plain, so how could anyone get it so screw UP. IMO
peace and love to you all……………………………….gene
August 28, 2010 at 5:42 am#214256davidbfunParticipantGene,
And the word became flesh….so God an immortal, became mortal? And when God died, why didn't the universe collapse?
August 28, 2010 at 5:54 am#214261GeneBalthropParticipantDBF………..A word (CAN NOT BE FLESH) (IT) can come to be (IN) a flesh person, as the words of God were (in) Jesus. He (QUOTED) THE TO US. Remember He said the words were not Hus words. God the Father never was or ever will be a flesh being , but he can (live in a flesh being< "For God was in Christ reconciling the world unto (HIMSELF)" Notice it does not say he (was) Christ Jesus but was (IN) him.
See you are again no following what scripture is saying it is Not meaning a word actually became flesh that is impossible even common sens would tell you that.
peace and love……………………….gene
August 28, 2010 at 5:57 am#214264Ed JParticipantQuote (davidbfun @ Aug. 28 2010,16:42) Gene, And the word became flesh….so God an immortal, became mortal? And when God died, why didn't the universe collapse?
Hi DBF,“The Word” becomes flesh every time someone is baptized with the HolySpirit”!
(Hebrews 7:28 / Mathew 10:20 / Mark 13:11 / Luke 12:12 / Acts 12:24)Why are you saying God died? God can't die, Jesus did.
Read the parable in Luke 10:30-36 about Jesus himself!Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
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