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Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 12 2011,17:28) I argued this in the other thread.
Hi D,That's how I feel. I'm writing the same exact things in my debate with Francis, the thread WJ started to discuss my debate with Francis, and on your two new threads.
It's too much!
I have some points in the Francis discussion thread waiting for you. I'll keep my discussion with you there instead of repeating myself, okay?
peace and love to you D-Linquent
mike
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 13 2011,07:46) Do you think Ceaser is a God?
Mike seems to believe so, do you?
Caesar was an “elohim” or “theos”. They both mean “judge/ruler”, and that's all they mean. He was also a king and a lord.Hang in there youngster………..you're coming along just fine. You'll eventually outgrow your rebelious stage and accept the truth.
your friend,
mikedont worry about it, you got too much on your plate.
Its not fair grounds.
go ahead finish your debate.Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 13 2011,16:34) dont worry about it, you got too much on your plate.
Its not fair grounds.
go ahead finish your debate.All: There is ONE God in truth. There is not two Gods, or three or more. There is ONE God most high! Anyone can call anybody God and can worship any god or form of god they wish. They can worship cattle and different animals. There are many people and many have their own gods.
Some people will actuall take a scripture such as 2Cor.4;4 where it refers to the gospel being hidden to those lost in sin: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not….unbelievers….duped, blinded, non-beliveing people.The disertation in the previous chapter was the changing of the law of Moses to the new way of faith. Not on tables of stone but in the fleshly tables of the heart, with the spirit of the living God.
The words satan or devils or deceivers or lucifer are not mentioned in 4:4. Anyone who places the name satan as the god of his world is in total darkness. Satan is only a god to those in darkness that make him their god. There is only ONE true God. IMO, TK
Quote (Tim Kraft @ Jan. 14 2011,22:03) All: There is ONE God in truth. There is not two Gods, or three or more. There is ONE God most high! Anyone can call anybody God and can worship any god or form of god they wish. They can worship cattle and different animals. There are many people and many have their own gods.
Some people will actuall take a scripture such as 2Cor.4;4 where it refers to the gospel being hidden to those lost in sin: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not….unbelievers….duped, blinded, non-beliveing people.The disertation in the previous chapter was the changing of the law of Moses to the new way of faith. Not on tables of stone but in the fleshly tables of the heart, with the spirit of the living God.
The words satan or devils or deceivers or lucifer are not mentioned in 4:4. Anyone who places the name satan as the god of his world is in total darkness. Satan is only a god to those in darkness that make him their god. There is only ONE true God. IMO, TK
Tim, you better get yourself a stronger light bulb.Georg
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 07 2011,17:31)
For all of those who believe that Jesus is a “god amoung other gods, as much as Satan is a god of this age”[/quote]Question #1) Why would you limit the thread to those who believe Jesus is a “God among other Gods?” It seems to me you are shutting off communication with those of us who do not believe Jesus is “a god among other gods.”
Quote Can anyone of you prove that other gods exist other than the Almighty God? yes!
Quote With Scripture please. Let us first resolve my question #1.
Quote What is a God by the way? See previous answer.
Quote (Baker @ Jan. 15 2011,02:38) Quote (Tim Kraft @ Jan. 14 2011,22:03) All: There is ONE God in truth. There is not two Gods, or three or more. There is ONE God most high! Anyone can call anybody God and can worship any god or form of god they wish. They can worship cattle and different animals. There are many people and many have their own gods.
Some people will actuall take a scripture such as 2Cor.4;4 where it refers to the gospel being hidden to those lost in sin: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not….unbelievers….duped, blinded, non-beliveing people.The disertation in the previous chapter was the changing of the law of Moses to the new way of faith. Not on tables of stone but in the fleshly tables of the heart, with the spirit of the living God.
The words satan or devils or deceivers or lucifer are not mentioned in 4:4. Anyone who places the name satan as the god of his world is in total darkness. Satan is only a god to those in darkness that make him their god. There is only ONE true God. IMO, TK
Tim, you better get yourself a stronger light bulb.Georg
George: Not much truth in your response. In fact, NONE! TKGod is a term, not a name. The most high God that Jesus represented was summed up as love. Actually if God most high is truly the all there is, source of all things or absolute life, there is no opposite to absolute. That would mean all things are contained within God. There is no death in God. There is no sin in God. There is no evil in life. If these were created by Man along the way, they would be considered outside of God or in outer darkness where there is no life. They are part of the choice we have in personal creation of our God so I believe they are an illusion of truth,believed by man but not of the truth/God. God has said, I set before you life and death, now you choose…! Just like he did with the first man, Adam. We have the same choices of belief.
If there are no boundaries or walls or fences to contain God and he is everywhere then truth/God has always been a choice of mankind of accepting, and believing one way or another. Since the new covenant if we choose to believe Jesus, the master of mankind, then God is Love and has all the attributes or fruit of love. God is good/life/truth/love/peace/joy/kindness/gentleness etc.! Thats our God/Truth gauge!
Man is given the choice in this life to choose what he wants to believe and thereby control the aspects and circumstances of his personal life. Whatsoever a man sows from his heart/mind out into the universe, through his thoughts and words effects his life. His words and intentions are either energized by love or fear. This is what the universe will provide for him to experience. Jesus said whatsoever thing a man desires, ask and it shall be done for him of his Father in heaven.
James said if there is any man amoung you that bridleth not his tongue deceiveth his own heart. JA.3:5…the tongue can defile the whole body and it can set fires of destruction in your course of nature!
In the same way we form in our minds the God we serve, by believeing things that come our way either written or spoken about God. If we follow the truth of Jesus we will find love, peace and joy in the holy ghost. If we follow the old testament ways or things written we will find sin, darkness, and destruction predominatly. If we use the guideline Jesus set forth of Love it should be easy to form the truth of God. In the same way as we see our God we will conduct our lives on earth. If we choose a harsh God of unforgiveness and wars of vengence, that is how we will respond to circumstances of life.
A God chosen that is wrothful, angry and plotting his vengence can not possibly produce fruit of love, peace and joy! We must wise up and think of our God as a God of love and peace or we will individually and collectively destroy mankind from the earth. Its our choice. IMO, TK
Hi Tim,
Have you given up on talking with Stuart?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2011,22:45) Hi Tim, Have you given up on talking with Stuart?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed: My rule of thumb with sharing Bible Truth is that both parties must want to know the truth of God, even at the expense of what they already believe.I find that understanding the overall picture painted by God on the hearts of mankind is just as important, actually more important than learning many individual scriptures to push and pull from ot or nt to make a doctrine fit, rather than see/understand the entire vision.
Anyone can take apart a persons thesis or hypothesis that he has come to over the years and believes, without needing to prove his case or justify his destructive criteria one way or the other.
Actually I don't believe I have anything to say that interests Stu in the slightest. Stu is rich in his own beliefs. Its hard for a rich man to enter heaven. Not impossible but I don't see Stu coming to God as a child (mentally) to see a Kingdom that is throgh understanding not observation! IMO, TK
Hi SimplyForgivin,
I think(though I may be completely wrong) what is prompting you to create this thread is a lack of understanding of the semantics and grammer of the ancient languages from which the modern bible text is based. If you decide to educate yourself in those languages you may come to the realization that you have no need to create a thread such as this.
In closing I would like to say may the love and compassion that Jesus Christ has shown us and that can dwell within us by simply following his teachings be made abundantly clear to us in our own personal journeys towards God in the name of Jesus Christ.With Love and Respect,
WispringQuote (Wispring @ Mar. 19 2011,12:06) Hi SimplyForgivin,
I think(though I may be completely wrong) what is prompting you to create this thread is a lack of understanding of the semantics and grammer of the ancient languages from which the modern bible text is based. If you decide to educate yourself in those languages you may come to the realization that you have no need to create a thread such as this.
In closing I would like to say may the love and compassion that Jesus Christ has shown us and that can dwell within us by simply following his teachings be made abundantly clear to us in our own personal journeys towards God in the name of Jesus Christ.With Love and Respect,
Wispring
Actually your completely Wrong.The reason I created this thread was to Antagonize the Anti-Trinitarians and thier belief in MANY GODS. (such as Mike, who is a very old guy, with a great white beard and who picks his nose alot)
IT was in the heat of the debate within the Mike Vs Francis thread.
So therefore its a out-of-date thread.
and by the way, You cant follow Jesus teachings without Jesus.
therefore its an error to say “simply follow his teachings”If it were SIMPLE than he wouldnt need to DIE for Us.
Try not to jump to conclusions buddy.
Semantics and Grammer and Understanding have nothing to do with knowing the Truth.
For truth is By Revelation from God.
The same way Peter understood that Jesus is the Son of God because it was revealed to him.Give all Glory to God and not Men.
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 19 2011,02:25)
The reason I created this thread was to Antagonize the Anti-Trinitarians and thier belief in MANY GODS.
But there ARE many gods mentioned in scripture. Also many messiahs and christs. That's the FACT of the matter – you just have to come to terms with the SCRIPTURAL FACTS. As yet you have not been able to do so.Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 19 2011,02:25)
(such as Mike, who is a very old guy, with a great white beard and who picks his nose alot)
Hey D-Linquent! That's uncalled for. You know I've reduced my nose picking from “alot” to “frequently”.Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 19 2011,02:25)
The same way Peter understood that Jesus is the Son of God because it was revealed to him.
Listen to your craziness, Cheese Doodle. It was revealed by God to Peter that Jesus is the SON OF GOD. But somehow, out of these words, you come up with GOD THE SON.
Did Peter understand “Son of God” to be “God the Son”?
1 Peter 1:3
Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ!And in Acts 4, Peter prays this to God:
“Sovereign Lord, you made the heavens and the earth and the sea, and everything in them…………………….Stretch out your hand to heal and perform signs and wonders through the name of your holy servant Jesus.”
Apparently Peter did not consider the words “Son OF God” to confusingly mean “God the Son”, as you goofballs do.
peace and love,
mikeQuote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2011,20:31) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 19 2011,02:25)
The reason I created this thread was to Antagonize the Anti-Trinitarians and thier belief in MANY GODS.
But there ARE many gods mentioned in scripture. Also many messiahs and christs. That's the FACT of the matter – you just have to come to terms with the SCRIPTURAL FACTS. As yet you have not been able to do so.Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 19 2011,02:25)
(such as Mike, who is a very old guy, with a great white beard and who picks his nose alot)
Hey D-Linquent! That's uncalled for. You know I've reduced my nose picking from “alot” to “frequently”.Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 19 2011,02:25)
The same way Peter understood that Jesus is the Son of God because it was revealed to him.
Listen to your craziness, Cheese Doodle. It was revealed by God to Peter that Jesus is the SON OF GOD. But somehow, out of these words, you come up with GOD THE SON.Did Peter understand “Son of God” to be “God the Son”?
1 Peter 1:3
Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ!And in Acts 4, Peter prays this to God:
“Sovereign Lord, you made the heavens and the earth and the sea, and everything in them…………………….Stretch out your hand to heal and perform signs and wonders through the name of your holy servant Jesus.”
Apparently Peter did not consider the words “Son OF God” to confusingly mean “God the Son”, as you goofballs do.
peace and love,
mike
No old man.
There is only one God.OH you reduced your nose picking?
Are the nurses helping you stop your bad habits at whatever old people building place your at?The good thing as that the nurses are pro's at cleaning your ears.
To bad they cant help you with your amnesia though….to bad..Ok what does your whole peter thing have to do with what i said.
MY point concerning the thread is that Truth is REVEALED by God alone, and its not for us to discover.Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 19 2011,13:19) OH you reduced your nose picking?
Are the nurses helping you stop your bad habits at whatever old people building place your at?The good thing as that the nurses are pro's at cleaning your ears.
To bad they cant help you with your amnesia though….to bad..
Dennison ROTFLOL You are killing me! Make my day. You have to admit that is hillarious! WJ
Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 19 2011,23:38) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 19 2011,13:19) OH you reduced your nose picking?
Are the nurses helping you stop your bad habits at whatever old people building place your at?The good thing as that the nurses are pro's at cleaning your ears.
To bad they cant help you with your amnesia though….to bad..
Dennison ROTFLOL You are killing me! Make my day. You have to admit that is hillarious! WJ
Hahaha,I try, i try.
Its POSSIBLE THOUGH ISNT IT?
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 19 2011,12:19)
No old man.
There is only one God.
According to Dennison, this is true. According to the word of God, this is not true. Hmmmmmm……………who to believe?
D, do you ever wonder how Jehovah can be the God OF gods if there are no other gods? Who exactly is Jehovah the God OF in that statement?Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 19 2011,12:19)
Ok what does your whole peter thing have to do with what i said.
Poor D. Stumped by the very words of the Apostle HE brought up in the first place. D, what did Peter think “Son OF God” meant? You can tell from his writings.mike
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 19 2011,13:00) Its POSSIBLE THOUGH ISNT IT?
See Keith,He's masking a REAL question within a joke. He speaks of the “a god” translation of 1:1c. He knows it's possible and he's asking for your approval to admit the TRUTH.
Will you give it to him, Keith?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 20 2011,03:46) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Mar. 19 2011,13:00) Its POSSIBLE THOUGH ISNT IT?
See Keith,He's masking a REAL question within a joke. He speaks of the “a god” translation of 1:1c. He knows it's possible and he's asking for your approval to admit the TRUTH.
Will you give it to him, Keith?
Mike,Naaaa old man, I was MOCKING you or being sarcastic. I know that the Sarcasm of back in the day is not as clever as the Sarcasm of todays generation from Young gentlemen such as myself. Dont worry ill school you mr.old school.
Or ask the nurses to help you out!
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