A god amoung gods

[Ed J]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,08:41)

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,02:37) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2011,02:00) Hi Dennison, You answer my question, and I'll answer yours; Deal?   Do you believe what Shaool (the Apostle Paul) wrote in 2Cor.4:4? God bless   Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Nothing to do with the Thread Ed J, you need to learn how to follow the thread. Actually let me take that back. I didnt read it Right. I thought you were refferring to something else from a different thread. Paul does not believe that Satan is a God at all, nor that he is a Eternal God.   to be a God of an age, is not a God.

Hi Dennison,

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Do you believe that SATAN is A GOD? YES OR NO?

     satan is god over the children of pride. (see Job 41:34)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[SimplyForgiven]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2011,04:26)

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,08:41) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,02:37) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2011,02:00) Hi Dennison, You answer my question, and I'll answer yours; Deal?   Do you believe what Shaool (the Apostle Paul) wrote in 2Cor.4:4? God bless   Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Nothing to do with the Thread Ed J, you need to learn how to follow the thread. Actually let me take that back. I didnt read it Right. I thought you were refferring to something else from a different thread. Paul does not believe that Satan is a God at all, nor that he is a Eternal God.   to be a God of an age, is not a God. Hi Dennison, Quote Do you believe that SATAN is A GOD? YES OR NO?      satan is god over the children of pride. (see Job 41:34) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

How did he get that position?
doesnt God give him authority to do so… according to Job 1 and 2?

is Satan Perfect?

[SimplyForgiven]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 08 2011,04:22)

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 07 2011,16:41) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,02:37) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2011,02:00) Hi Dennison, You answer my question, and I'll answer yours; Deal?   Do you believe what Shaool (the Apostle Paul) wrote in 2Cor.4:4? God bless   Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Nothing to do with the Thread Ed J, you need to learn how to follow the thread. Actually let me take that back. I didnt read it Right. I thought you were refferring to something else from a different thread. Paul does not believe that Satan is a God at all, nor that he is a Eternal God.   to be a God of an age, is not a God. Hi Dennison Satan is the god of this age (world) you are correct. The question should be is he a “true god”? He is what Paul also calls a so-called god, an imposter, a usurper and enemy of God. The scriptures clearly teach that there is “Only One TRUE God” and that simply means their is no God but one. Even Mike has admitted that Jesus is a “True God”, so if their is “Only One True God” and no others, then he and the Father must be One God. Blessings Keith

We would have to Define God.

I define God as Perfection.
anything that does not meet perfection cannot be God.

Matthew 5:48
Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Notice how George and Terrarica arnt so confident and aggresive now.

I told you, they have also realized that they have lost total creditbility to admit that “there are other gods”.
therefore their theology is false.

they lost there debate.
Mark the Date WJ the antitrins have nothing to say now.

Where is JA, who said that the belief that Jesus was God was defeated on this forum?

[Ed J]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,13:46)

is Satan Perfect?

Hi Dennison,

Hardly. (Isaiah 14:12-15 / Ezekiel 28:13-15)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,13:52)

We would have to Define God. I define God as Perfection. anything that does not meet perfection cannot be God. Matthew 5:48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Notice how George and Terrarica arnt so confident and aggresive now.   I told you, they have also realized that they have lost total creditbility to admit that “there are other gods”. therefore their theology is false. they lost there debate. Mark the Date WJ the antitrins have nothing to say now. Where is JA, who said that the belief that Jesus was God was defeated on this forum?

Hi Dennison,

Eph. 4:13: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and
of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man,
unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ:

Hebrews 11:40 God having provided some better thing
for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

What is that better thing; do then become God (Dennison)?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[SimplyForgiven]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2011,08:19)

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,13:46) is Satan Perfect? Hi Dennison, Hardly. (Isaiah 14:12-15 / Ezekiel 28:13-15) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Than he is not a god.

[SimplyForgiven]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2011,08:28)

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,13:52) We would have to Define God. I define God as Perfection. anything that does not meet perfection cannot be God. Matthew 5:48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Notice how George and Terrarica arnt so confident and aggresive now.   I told you, they have also realized that they have lost total creditbility to admit that “there are other gods”. therefore their theology is false. they lost there debate. Mark the Date WJ the antitrins have nothing to say now. Where is JA, who said that the belief that Jesus was God was defeated on this forum? Hi Dennison, Eph. 4:13: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ: Hebrews 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect. What is that better thing; do then become God (Dennison)? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

We need God to be Perfect as i posted.

[Baker]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,06:37)

Quote (Baker @ Jan. 07 2011,16:29) SF Psa 82:1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.   Psa 82:6   I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.   The word “GOD” simply means, a “mighty one”, or “strong one”; that could, and did, apply in ancient times to rulers, military men, even successful business men. Mainly it was used to describe an invisible, powerful being, that could be influenced with sacrifices and prayers, to bring success in, love, war, business, or what ever. The God of the Bible is the “ALMIGHTY GOD”, he is the “creator” of all, he can see the end from the beginning, he is the “ALL POWERFUL ONE”; there is no other. In comparison, Satan is just “a god”, a powerful one compared to us. Georg George, if your going to use psalms 82 has evidence. please refer to the other thread that refutes your explanation.   “YE are Gods” thread. God is an Identity, not just a Title.   Many are called that, but are they truely a God? So is  Ceaser your God and Satan as well? how can you prove that they are actually gods? to be a king, you must have kingdom?

I think what you're asking me, I explained in my first response.

Georg

[terraricca]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,20:52)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 08 2011,04:22) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 07 2011,16:41) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,02:37) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2011,02:00) Hi Dennison, You answer my question, and I'll answer yours; Deal?   Do you believe what Shaool (the Apostle Paul) wrote in 2Cor.4:4? God bless   Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Nothing to do with the Thread Ed J, you need to learn how to follow the thread. Actually let me take that back. I didnt read it Right. I thought you were refferring to something else from a different thread. Paul does not believe that Satan is a God at all, nor that he is a Eternal God.   to be a God of an age, is not a God. Hi Dennison Satan is the god of this age (world) you are correct. The question should be is he a “true god”? He is what Paul also calls a so-called god, an imposter, a usurper and enemy of God. The scriptures clearly teach that there is “Only One TRUE God” and that simply means their is no God but one. Even Mike has admitted that Jesus is a “True God”, so if their is “Only One True God” and no others, then he and the Father must be One God. Blessings Keith We would have to Define God. I define God as Perfection. anything that does not meet perfection cannot be God. Matthew 5:48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Notice how George and Terrarica arnt so confident and aggresive now.   I told you, they have also realized that they have lost total creditbility to admit that “there are other gods”. therefore their theology is false. they lost there debate. Mark the Date WJ the antitrins have nothing to say now. Where is JA, who said that the belief that Jesus was God was defeated on this forum?

SF

what does it means to be perfection ??

perfection is it not just a quality??

do you know your God

do you know his son ??

Pierre

[mikeboll64]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,13:46)

How did [Satan] get that position? doesnt God give him authority to do so…

Hi D,

That's right.  Any god who has any position at all was given that position by “the only true God”.  That includes Jesus.

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,13:46)

We would have to Define God. I define God as Perfection. anything that does not meet perfection cannot be God.

This is NOT the definition of the word “god”, however.  You said that “God” is an IDENTITY.  While we can use the word “god” to IDENTIFY someone, the word itself simply means “ruler”.

It makes more sense to say the Omniscient Being who created all other beings and rules over them is “Perfection”.  But “god” is just one of the titles that Omniscient Being holds.  He also holds the title of “King”.  But to say the word “king” is not necessarily to IDENTIFY YHVH.  There are many other “kings”.  YHVH also holds the title of “Lord”.  But just to call someone “lord”, as Abraham was frequently called, does not make that person YHVH.  Same with “Father” and “Savior” and “Shepherd”.

Once you come to terms with the fact that “god” is merely a title that is often used to describe the Omniscient Being who created us, you will be able to also come to terms with the scriptural FACT that there are many who have been called by the title of “god”.  And being called by that title doesn't make that one God Almighty, nor does it make that one a “false god” or “imposter”.

peace and love,
mike

[SimplyForgiven]

Quote (Baker @ Jan. 09 2011,12:38)

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,06:37) Quote (Baker @ Jan. 07 2011,16:29) SF Psa 82:1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.   Psa 82:6   I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.   The word “GOD” simply means, a “mighty one”, or “strong one”; that could, and did, apply in ancient times to rulers, military men, even successful business men. Mainly it was used to describe an invisible, powerful being, that could be influenced with sacrifices and prayers, to bring success in, love, war, business, or what ever. The God of the Bible is the “ALMIGHTY GOD”, he is the “creator” of all, he can see the end from the beginning, he is the “ALL POWERFUL ONE”; there is no other. In comparison, Satan is just “a god”, a powerful one compared to us. Georg George, if your going to use psalms 82 has evidence. please refer to the other thread that refutes your explanation.   “YE are Gods” thread. God is an Identity, not just a Title.   Many are called that, but are they truely a God? So is  Ceaser your God and Satan as well? how can you prove that they are actually gods? to be a king, you must have kingdom? I think what you're asking me, I explained in my first response. Georg

So is Ceaser your God and Satan as well?

[SimplyForgiven]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2011,18:31)

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,20:52) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 08 2011,04:22) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 07 2011,16:41) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,02:37) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2011,02:00) Hi Dennison, You answer my question, and I'll answer yours; Deal?   Do you believe what Shaool (the Apostle Paul) wrote in 2Cor.4:4? God bless   Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Nothing to do with the Thread Ed J, you need to learn how to follow the thread. Actually let me take that back. I didnt read it Right. I thought you were refferring to something else from a different thread. Paul does not believe that Satan is a God at all, nor that he is a Eternal God.   to be a God of an age, is not a God. Hi Dennison Satan is the god of this age (world) you are correct. The question should be is he a “true god”? He is what Paul also calls a so-called god, an imposter, a usurper and enemy of God. The scriptures clearly teach that there is “Only One TRUE God” and that simply means their is no God but one. Even Mike has admitted that Jesus is a “True God”, so if their is “Only One True God” and no others, then he and the Father must be One God. Blessings Keith We would have to Define God. I define God as Perfection. anything that does not meet perfection cannot be God. Matthew 5:48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Notice how George and Terrarica arnt so confident and aggresive now.   I told you, they have also realized that they have lost total creditbility to admit that “there are other gods”. therefore their theology is false. they lost there debate. Mark the Date WJ the antitrins have nothing to say now. Where is JA, who said that the belief that Jesus was God was defeated on this forum? SF what does it means to be perfection ?? perfection is it not just a quality?? do you know your God do you know his son ?? Pierre

Ok continue.

Get to your point?
is God not perfect?

What is your Point Pierre?

[SimplyForgiven]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2011,23:00)

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,13:46) How did [Satan] get that position? doesnt God give him authority to do so… Hi D, That's right.  Any god who has any position at all was given that position by “the only true God”.  That includes Jesus. Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,13:46) We would have to Define God. I define God as Perfection. anything that does not meet perfection cannot be God. This is NOT the definition of the word “god”, however.  You said that “God” is an IDENTITY.  While we can use the word “god” to IDENTIFY someone, the word itself simply means “ruler”. It makes more sense to say the Omniscient Being who created all other beings and rules over them is “Perfection”.  But “god” is just one of the titles that Omniscient Being holds.  He also holds the title of “King”.  But to say the word “king” is not necessarily to IDENTIFY YHVH.  There are many other “kings”.  YHVH also holds the title of “Lord”.  But just to call someone “lord”, as Abraham was frequently called, does not make that person YHVH.  Same with “Father” and “Savior” and “Shepherd”. Once you come to terms with the fact that “god” is merely a title that is often used to describe the Omniscient Being who created us, you will be able to also come to terms with the scriptural FACT that there are many who have been called by the title of “god”.  And being called by that title doesn't make that one God Almighty, nor does it make that one a “false god” or “imposter”. peace and love, mike

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That's right. Any god who has any position at all was given that position by “the only true God”. That includes Jesus.

Lol mike thats unscripurally true. No where does it say in the Scriptures that God gave the “title of god” to other peoples.
The only power that the Devil has is the power that is permitted to him and thats it.

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This is NOT the definition of the word “god”, however. You said that “God” is an IDENTITY. While we can use the word “god” to IDENTIFY someone, the word itself simply means “ruler”.

When i say i Pray to God. What do you think? would you ask me which God? Obviously not. When i say, I worship God, I love God, all these statements indicate a Identity not a title.

and there is a big DIFFERENCE BETWEEN god AND GOD.
lol.
actually do me a favor, you have mentioned this often.
can you find me a reference where it states that “god” only means ruler?

lol a king of this world cannot be comapred to the king of the universe.
Here is the difference.

If i claim to be a father and have NO SON, am i really a Father?
of course i must be crazy to say such a thing, or im lying.

So If someone claims to be God and yet is NOT “the Omniscient Being who created all other beings and rules over them” than he is simply NOT GOD.
Its that SIMPLE.

Do you understand the difference between Lord and lord?
The scriptures are very clear that there is only one God Mike.

how come you keep on denying this?

is BAAL a God? if not tell me why?
Is Zeus a real God? if not tell me why?
Is Ceaser a real God? if not tell me why?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2011,23:00)

That's right.  Any god who has any position at all was given that position by “the only true God”.  That includes Jesus.

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,16:06)

Lol mike thats unscripurally true. No where does it say in the Scriptures that God gave the “title of god” to other peoples.

Not only is it scriptural……

Daniel 4:17  NIV
The decision is announced by messengers, the holy ones declare the verdict, so that the living may know that the Most High is sovereign over all kingdoms on earth and gives them to anyone he wishes and sets over them the lowliest of people.

………..but it was God who called human judges “gods”:

John 10:34-35 (New King James Version)
34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods”’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken),

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,16:06)

The only power that the Devil has is the power that is permitted to him and thats it.

That's right………again.  And the only power and authority that Jesus has is the power and authority that has BEEN GIVEN TO HIM BY HIS GOD.  It's all right there in the scriptures, D.  

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,16:06)

When i say i Pray to God.  What do you think? would you ask me which God?

Actually, if it was YOU who was praying, I WOULD wonder which of your “Gods” you were praying to……….the Father or the Son.  

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,16:06)

and there is a big DIFFERENCE BETWEEN god AND GOD.

What difference?  The capital “G” that wasn't even in the original text?  

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,16:06)

can you find me a reference where it states that “god” only means ruler?

Sure.  Here's the very first definition of the Hebrew word “elohim”:

1) (plural)
1a) rulers, judges

Here's the Greek word “theos”:

4) whatever can in any respect be likened unto God, or resemble him in any way
  4a) God's representative or viceregent
     4a1) of magistrates and judges

And here's the English word “god”, from Merriam-Webster:

4: a powerful ruler

Good enough?

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,16:06)

Do you understand the difference between Lord and lord?

Again with the capital letters?  Come on, D.  There were no “capital” letters in the original languages of the scriptures.  The word “lord” simply means “master”.  And it is another TITLE that many others besides YHVH have been given in scripture.

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,16:06)

is BAAL a God?  if not tell me why? Is Zeus a real God? if not tell me why? Is Ceaser a real God? if not tell me why?

Baal:  IF he was a real being, then he was a real “ruler”, or “god”.
Zeus:  I don't believe Zeus to be real.
Caesar:  Absolutely.  He was a real “ruler”, and therefore could be given the title of “god”……….for that's all it meant.

peace and love,
mike

[terraricca]

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,22:58)

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2011,18:31) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,20:52) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 08 2011,04:22) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 07 2011,16:41) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,02:37) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2011,02:00) Hi Dennison, You answer my question, and I'll answer yours; Deal?   Do you believe what Shaool (the Apostle Paul) wrote in 2Cor.4:4? God bless   Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Nothing to do with the Thread Ed J, you need to learn how to follow the thread. Actually let me take that back. I didnt read it Right. I thought you were refferring to something else from a different thread. Paul does not believe that Satan is a God at all, nor that he is a Eternal God.   to be a God of an age, is not a God. Hi Dennison Satan is the god of this age (world) you are correct. The question should be is he a “true god”? He is what Paul also calls a so-called god, an imposter, a usurper and enemy of God. The scriptures clearly teach that there is “Only One TRUE God” and that simply means their is no God but one. Even Mike has admitted that Jesus is a “True God”, so if their is “Only One True God” and no others, then he and the Father must be One God. Blessings Keith We would have to Define God. I define God as Perfection. anything that does not meet perfection cannot be God. Matthew 5:48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Notice how George and Terrarica arnt so confident and aggresive now.   I told you, they have also realized that they have lost total creditbility to admit that “there are other gods”. therefore their theology is false. they lost there debate. Mark the Date WJ the antitrins have nothing to say now. Where is JA, who said that the belief that Jesus was God was defeated on this forum? SF what does it means to be perfection ?? perfection is it not just a quality?? do you know your God do you know his son ?? Pierre Ok continue. Get to your point? is God not perfect? What is your Point Pierre?

SF

you say God is perfect but you do not know what is Gods perfection ??

and you want to become like him ??

so you do not know the way??

Pierre

[SimplyForgiven]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2011,06:49)

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,22:58) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 09 2011,18:31) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,20:52) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 08 2011,04:22) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 07 2011,16:41) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,02:37) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2011,02:00) Hi Dennison, You answer my question, and I'll answer yours; Deal?   Do you believe what Shaool (the Apostle Paul) wrote in 2Cor.4:4? God bless   Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Nothing to do with the Thread Ed J, you need to learn how to follow the thread. Actually let me take that back. I didnt read it Right. I thought you were refferring to something else from a different thread. Paul does not believe that Satan is a God at all, nor that he is a Eternal God.   to be a God of an age, is not a God. Hi Dennison Satan is the god of this age (world) you are correct. The question should be is he a “true god”? He is what Paul also calls a so-called god, an imposter, a usurper and enemy of God. The scriptures clearly teach that there is “Only One TRUE God” and that simply means their is no God but one. Even Mike has admitted that Jesus is a “True God”, so if their is “Only One True God” and no others, then he and the Father must be One God. Blessings Keith We would have to Define God. I define God as Perfection. anything that does not meet perfection cannot be God. Matthew 5:48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect. Notice how George and Terrarica arnt so confident and aggresive now.   I told you, they have also realized that they have lost total creditbility to admit that “there are other gods”. therefore their theology is false. they lost there debate. Mark the Date WJ the antitrins have nothing to say now. Where is JA, who said that the belief that Jesus was God was defeated on this forum? SF what does it means to be perfection ?? perfection is it not just a quality?? do you know your God do you know his son ?? Pierre Ok continue. Get to your point? is God not perfect? What is your Point Pierre? SF you say God is perfect but you do not know what is Gods perfection ?? and you want to become like him ?? so you do not know the way?? Pierre

Your making many implications within your post Pierre,
get to your point.

Where are trying to get at?
Your not answering my question.

[SimplyForgiven]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 11 2011,08:10)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2011,23:00) That's right.  Any god who has any position at all was given that position by “the only true God”.  That includes Jesus. Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,16:06) Lol mike thats unscripurally true. No where does it say in the Scriptures that God gave the “title of god” to other peoples. Not only is it scriptural…… Daniel 4:17  NIV The decision is announced by messengers, the holy ones declare the verdict, so that the living may know that the Most High is sovereign over all kingdoms on earth and gives them to anyone he wishes and sets over them the lowliest of people. ………..but it was God who called human judges “gods”: John 10:34-35 (New King James Version) 34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods”’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,16:06) The only power that the Devil has is the power that is permitted to him and thats it. That's right………again.  And the only power and authority that Jesus has is the power and authority that has BEEN GIVEN TO HIM BY HIS GOD.  It's all right there in the scriptures, D.   Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,16:06) When i say i Pray to God.  What do you think? would you ask me which God? Actually, if it was YOU who was praying, I WOULD wonder which of your “Gods” you were praying to……….the Father or the Son.   Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,16:06) and there is a big DIFFERENCE BETWEEN god AND GOD. What difference?  The capital “G” that wasn't even in the original text?   Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,16:06) can you find me a reference where it states that “god” only means ruler? Sure.  Here's the very first definition of the Hebrew word “elohim”: 1) (plural) 1a) rulers, judges Here's the Greek word “theos”: 4) whatever can in any respect be likened unto God, or resemble him in any way   4a) God's representative or viceregent      4a1) of magistrates and judges And here's the English word “god”, from Merriam-Webster: 4: a powerful ruler Good enough? Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,16:06) Do you understand the difference between Lord and lord? Again with the capital letters?  Come on, D.  There were no “capital” letters in the original languages of the scriptures.  The word “lord” simply means “master”.  And it is another TITLE that many others besides YHVH have been given in scripture. Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 10 2011,16:06) is BAAL a God?  if not tell me why? Is Zeus a real God? if not tell me why? Is Ceaser a real God? if not tell me why? Baal:  IF he was a real being, then he was a real “ruler”, or “god”. Zeus:  I don't believe Zeus to be real. Caesar:  Absolutely.  He was a real “ruler”, and therefore could be given the title of “god”……….for that's all it meant. peace and love, mike

Mike,
Lol Mike, Daniel does not state that God gives the title of God over other people.

And John 10 is only Jesus quoting Psalms 82 where these “gods” fall like men.
Does this still not click in your head?

They are not gods mike.
Lol mike, God is Echad, only one God, I pray to the one and only True God.

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What difference? The capital “G” that wasn't even in the original text?

Mike! God is a Identity, a real being. where as the many who are called “gods” which are not gods at all but falsley called themselves divine.

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Sure. Here's the very first definition of the Hebrew word “elohim”:

I argued this in the other thread.

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Again with the capital letters? Come on, D. There were no “capital” letters in the original languages of the scriptures. The word “lord” simply means “master”. And it is another TITLE that many others besides YHVH have been given in scripture.

Question: Are you saying that every reference to Lord is only a title? or for example we all know that LORD stands for YHVH as Gods name mentioned many times through out scritpure.

so are you stating that YHVH is also just a title?

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Baal: IF he was a real being, then he was a real “ruler”, or “god”. Zeus: I don't believe Zeus to be real. Caesar: Absolutely. He was a real “ruler”, and therefore could be given the title of “god”……….for that's all it meant.

The Jews would stone you for blasmphey.
Thats not true mike and you know it.
Caesar was never a god at all, even if he thought he was divine or any as such, he was simply human and never a god.

Your are equating the word God with Ruler and its not so.

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Quote (Baker @ Jan. 07 2011,23:07) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 07 2011,17:31) Can anyone of you prove that other gods exist other than the Almighty God? With Scripture please. Read your Bible. Georg Immature comment dont you think? Was that a nessary comment to Make? Come on George i expect better from you.

Is suggesting to read your Bible immature?
You make some mature comments, and I will answer you in a mature way.

Georg

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Quote (Baker @ Jan. 13 2011,00:35)

Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,06:47) Quote (Baker @ Jan. 07 2011,23:07) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 07 2011,17:31) Can anyone of you prove that other gods exist other than the Almighty God? With Scripture please. Read your Bible. Georg Immature comment dont you think? Was that a nessary comment to Make? Come on George i expect better from you. Is suggesting to read your Bible immature? You make some mature comments, and I will answer you in a mature way. Georg

It depends in what way you mention it.

OF course in the outside it looks like a decent comment to make, but were your intentions pure? or was there more to it?

Of course im taking it the wrong way, so correct if im wrong.

So are you implying that im making immature comments?
What else do you want me to ask you?

its a logical reasonable question to ask.

Do you think Ceaser is a God?
Mike seems to believe so, do you?

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Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 13 2011,07:46)

Quote (Baker @ Jan. 13 2011,00:35) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,06:47) Quote (Baker @ Jan. 07 2011,23:07) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 07 2011,17:31) Can anyone of you prove that other gods exist other than the Almighty God? With Scripture please. Read your Bible. Georg Immature comment dont you think? Was that a nessary comment to Make? Come on George i expect better from you. Is suggesting to read your Bible immature? You make some mature comments, and I will answer you in a mature way. Georg It depends in what way you mention it. OF course in the outside it looks like a decent comment to make, but were your intentions pure? or was there more to it? Of course im taking it the wrong way, so correct if im wrong. So are you implying that im making immature comments? What else do you want me to ask you? its a logical reasonable question to ask. Do you think Ceaser is a God? Mike seems to believe so, do you?

At best, Caesar was “a” god, not “God”.
And yes, Satan is the god , a mighty one, of the earth.

Georg

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