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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2014,06:55) Hi WU,
The food is only helpful for the children of God.
Nick.This is true.
we are waring against spirits in the air.
There are many frequencies we can tap into.
The idea is to be in the right one.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,
Yes the deceptions of men are far more visible and popular than the simple gospel truth.
Many are called but few are chosenQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2014,07:23) Hi Wakeup,
Yes the deceptions of men are far more visible and popular than the simple gospel truth.
Many are called but few are chosen
It seems that you have tapped into the right frequency.
Next thing to do is to go for the more solid food.
And that is to understand all the prophesies.
I hope you will step up to that,to see the wonderful picture.wakeup.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 03 2014,18:39) Hi MB, 1. The Spirit of Christ did not die.
2. We cannot define how God must act according to logic.
1. Jesus died in exactly the same way the rest of us die. If he did not, then what hope have we for a resurrection? (1 Cor 15:12-22)2. Please save your breath. These kinds of comments stem from the Trinitarians, who became experts at telling us that it doesn't have to make sense to us that God is three in one, or that His Son is actually also Him.
God inspired the Bible to be written in a way that HUMAN BEINGS could understand it with their God-given COMMON SENSE.
The Book was written for us, to be understood by us.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 06 2014,12:10) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 03 2014,18:39) Hi MB, 1. The Spirit of Christ did not die.
2. We cannot define how God must act according to logic.
1. Jesus died in exactly the same way the rest of us die. If he did not, then what hope have we for a resurrection? (1 Cor 15:12-22)2. Please save your breath. These kinds of comments stem from the Trinitarians, who became experts at telling us that it doesn't have to make sense to us that God is three in one, or that His Son is actually also Him.
God inspired the Bible to be written in a way that HUMAN BEINGS could understand it with their God-given COMMON SENSE.
The Book was written for us, to be understood by us.
Mike B.True; The bible is to be understood if the HS is given.
The HS is our spiritual teacher and none else.
The HS is in those Words.
If treated with great reverence,He will assist.The apostles did not understand Jesus speech;untill the HS
is given.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 06 2014,18:35) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 06 2014,09:06) Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 04 2014,15:14) MikeB. You have 7000 Jehovah's in your bible well good luck on you.
I am not against that.
You're not?
Because it seems to me you've accused the JWs of ADDING that divine name into the scriptures, as a promotional tool, or whatever.You have DERIDED the JWs for having that name in their Bible so many times.
I hope that will change, now that you know the facts of the matter.
Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 04 2014,15:14) I am not to defend the king James,but the truth.
And WHICH truth will you defend, Wakeup?1. The divine personal name of our Creator is in the OT 4 times?
2. The divine personal name of our Creator is in the OT 6519 times?
Will you defend the real truth? Or the KJV's truth?
MikeB.As I have asked you before.
Have you seen the original or are you just going by word?
By rumours.Did Jesus come to earth to proof that His Fathers name Is Jehovah? So why would the Jw's continuously pushing that name,which Jesus never even mentioned?
I say this is definitely promotion for own gain.
What did Jesus do on temple ground?
Did he not turn over all the tables?The truth you can only find;when you have managed to put
all the dots in the right place. The picture must be without
any distortions.In case you dont know.In your case you can not defend the truth,because you have not found it.
BTW. you must proof to all that you have seen the original
with the 7000Jehovah's in it,not by just rumours.
Jesus never complained;why should we get all tangled
up with it?
You also need to answer questions.wakeup.
Hi Wakeup and Mike,There is a reason for everything GOD does. There is a reason GOD's Name was written EXACTLY 6,823 times in the Hebrew Old Testament.
And there is a reason GOD's Name was written exxactly FIVE times in singular form and exactly THREE times in phrases in the “AKJV Bible”.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgSo did the Holy Spirit end up showing the apostles illogical things that their brains couldn't even comprehend? Or did the Holy Spirit make things EASIER and MORE LOGICAL to their human brains? Did it give them “understanding”? Or did it give them “confusing statements about how it doesn't have to make sense to us”?
IMO, it is, has been, and always will be a weak Trinitarian tactic to get backed into a corner, and slither your way out of it by claiming, “The things of God don't have to make sense to us.” As if that statement makes the logical scriptural things the other guy just said null and void, or something.
You are free to use that argument when you need to, Nick. But I will always understand it as a cop out you used because you were unable to actually ADDRESS the scriptural points I made.
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 06 2014,03:06) And there is a reason GOD's Name was written exactly FIVE times in singular form and exactly THREE times in phrases in the “AKJV Bible”.
The reason is that the KJV producers dropped the ball, and didn't translate the Hebrew text as it was written.
(There is probably also a couple of underlying reasons as well. I'm sure Satan had his hand in the elimination of God's divine name from the English Bibles. This helps in his effort to lead people into believing that JESUS is God. If we only address Jehovah as “Lord”, and Jesus is also our “Lord” – it makes it easier for Satan and the Trinitarians to remove Jehovah from the picture altogether…… and make “Jesus” our “MAIN God and Savior”.
Trust me, I just had a heated discussion about this with journey. She holds “Jesus” so high on the pedestal that she thinks it's no big deal to even KNOW the divine name of Jesus' own God and Savior, Jehovah. She and Wakeup seem to believe the use of “Jehovah” is simply a tactic used by Jehovah's Witnesses to promote their organization.)
At any rate, the bottom line will ALWAYS be: If the divine name is in the Hebrew text 6823 times, then that name should be translated into English as “Jehovah”, “Yahweh”, “YHWH”, or some other transliteration or translation 6823 times.
There is NO good excuse for removing God's proper name from the English Bibles when it is clearly in the Hebrew text 6823 times. Not even ONE of those 6823 times.
Hi MB,
We must be transformed by renewal of our minds[rom12.2,eph 4.23]
It happened for those ignorant fishermen showing the power of God's SpiritHi MB,
God's power shows up best in weak people.
Where are the wise men? Where are the scholars?God makes them fools
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2014,17:48) Hi MB,
We must be transformed by renewal of our minds[rom12.2,eph 4.23]
It happened for those ignorant fishermen showing the power of God's Spirit
It also has happened to me, Nick. That is why I'm able to help you out with understanding these scriptural teachings.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 06 2014,17:50) Hi MB,
God's power shows up best in weak people.
Where are the wise men? Where are the scholars?God makes them fools
John 17:3
This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.You equate this taking in of knowledge with “being made a fool by God”.
How odd.
Strong's Concordance: ginóskó
Definition: I am taking in knowledge, come to know, learn; aor: I ascertained, realized.
Like in this verse:
Matthew 6:3
But when you do your giving, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing…….Ie: Don't let your left hand “have knowledge” of what your right hand is doing.
Or this one:
“Do not be afraid of them, for nothing is hidden that will not be revealed, and nothing is secret that will not be made known.
Ie: You will be given knowledge of those secret things.
Thayer's Lexicon lists “learn to know, come to know, get a knowledge of” as its first definition of that Greek word.
And now you know, Nick. (Ie: Now you have taken in knowledge of this information.)
Btw, you didn't address the point, Nick. Do you consider taking in knowledge of God, Jesus, and the rest of the teachings in the Bible to be equivalent to “God making fools of us”?
Hi MB,
Odd interpretation of what was said.
Knowledge of the bible just removes excuses from men.
None of us can understand very much with our natural darkened minds-another vanity.
The only thing we need to learn is how to enter the kingdom because then we are promised the key-the Spirit who wrote it through men.
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