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Kerwin……..I agree with you on that so was Cyrus an arm of GOD. As well as all the prophets and Jesus also and All His saints are also.
peace and love……………..gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 23 2010,23:51) Kerwin……..I agree with you on that so was Cyrus an arm of GOD. As well as all the prophets and Jesus also and All His saints are also. peace and love……………..gene
I see the prophets as more of God's mouthpieces or public relations staff, not that he cared what public thinks of him.Though Jesus is the arm of the Lord, he also serves in other capacities.
Cyrus was the arm of the Lord as are all governments though they often are also rebellion against him at the same time.
I would say his saints serve in various capacities depending on what God has assigned them.
Hi all,
The Jews bowed down to the one (God) with the outstretched arm (the Son). God in the OT spoke of His arm as His own self and then in the NT, God reveals that His arm has been and is His own Son. That is why we read things like God creating the heavens and the earth alone and that He alone is God and there is no other, and that there shall be no other Gods before Him. The God of the OT is the same as the God of the NT but more revealed. How has He revealed Himself more fully? As one whose arm has all along been His very own Son.In the OT, the Jews worshiped the God whose arm was outstretched. Little did they know that they were worshiping the Father and the Son and now since they do not acknowledge the Son, they do not really know the God they worship.
2 Kings 17:36
36 “But the Lord, who brought you up from the land of Egypt with great power and with an outstretched arm, Him you shall fear, and to Him you shall bow yourselves down, and to Him you shall sacrifice.Hi LU,
No you distort scripture in support of your dogma.
There is no God with an outstetched arm shown to be worshipped in scripture.
GOD used power and His outstretched arm in vessels such as prophets and leaders but Jesus was born in Bethlehem.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,15:40) Hi LU,
No you distort scripture in support of your dogma.
There is no God with an outstetched arm shown to be worshipped in scripture.
GOD used power and His outstretched arm in vessels such as prophets and leaders but Jesus was born in Bethlehem.
Nick,
Oh really???Jer 32:17-22
17 'Ah Lord God! Behold, You have made the heavens and the earth by Your great power and by Your outstretched arm! Nothing is too difficult for You,
18 who shows lovingkindness to thousands, but repays the iniquity of fathers into the bosom of their children after them, O great and mighty God. The Lord of hosts is His name;
19 great in counsel and mighty in deed, whose eyes are open to all the ways of the sons of men, giving to everyone according to his ways and according to the fruit of his deeds;So, Nick, you don't believe it was the “Lord God” in the above passage that the Jews worshiped? Maybe you can show us that the “Lord God” in the above passage was not the God of the Jews that was worshiped. While you are at it, which prophet or leader was the “vessel” that God made the heavens and the earth by.
You are right about Jesus being born in Bethlehem but the Son of God was around long before that.
Hi LU,
The Lord God is the father of Jesus Christ.
God is not bipartite.
God is oneJesus said so but why do you not accept his words?
Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 23 2010,16:49) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,15:40) Hi LU,
No you distort scripture in support of your dogma.
There is no God with an outstetched arm shown to be worshipped in scripture.
GOD used power and His outstretched arm in vessels such as prophets and leaders but Jesus was born in Bethlehem.
Nick,
Oh really???Jer 32:17-22
17 'Ah Lord God! Behold, You have made the heavens and the earth by Your great power and by Your outstretched arm! Nothing is too difficult for You,
18 who shows lovingkindness to thousands, but repays the iniquity of fathers into the bosom of their children after them, O great and mighty God. The Lord of hosts is His name;
19 great in counsel and mighty in deed, whose eyes are open to all the ways of the sons of men, giving to everyone according to his ways and according to the fruit of his deeds;So, Nick, you don't believe it was the “Lord God” in the above passage that the Jews worshiped? Maybe you can show us that the “Lord God” in the above passage was not the God of the Jews that was worshiped. While you are at it, which prophet or leader was the “vessel” that God made the heavens and the earth by.
You are right about Jesus being born in Bethlehem but the Son of God was around long before that.
Nick,
I didn't think you would nor could answer the questions.Hi LU,
The Spirit of God that was in Jesus and the prophets created.
Ps104
Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.The finger and the arm of God.
Hi LU,
Supporting verse
Jb33
“The (A)Spirit of God has made me,
And the (B)breath of the Almighty gives me life.Hi LU,
There was not one God made of two beings of independant ability and power.
All power and ability is sourced to the one true God.
It is by His Spirit things are done.The Son of God did not share that power and ability till his anointing at the jordan.
He died at calvary and his only life now is from sharing in God's Spirit.
That is our eternal life hope tooTo all,
In constructing my answer to Gene I was led in thought to 1 Corinthians 12:14 and thinking of that thought I tried to determine what part of the body each individual served even those who do not worship God but God used to his good purposes anyways.
1 Corinthians 12:14-15(NIV) reads:
Quote Now the body is not made up of one part but of many. If the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,” it would not for that reason cease to be part of the body.
I do not want anyone to be confused so I will mention that though this passage is specifically speaking of the assembly of those calling on the authority of Jesus the general principle applies to God as well.
It is my understanding that Jesus' primary purpose is to serve as the head of the assembly of his people be they humans, angels, or others in heaven or on earth; Ephesians 5:23, Ephesians 1:22, Colossians 1:18, and Matthew 29:18. I of course am not including God as one subject to him.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 23 2010,17:57) Hi LU,
The Spirit of God that was in Jesus and the prophets created.
Ps104
Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.The finger and the arm of God.
Not exactly Nick,
The spirit gave the breath of life to that which God created through the Son.
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