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Quote (Laurel @ Nov. 28 2010,19:50) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 28 2010,08:23) Quote (Laurel @ Nov. 28 2010,14:58) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 28 2010,07:51) Quote (Laurel @ Nov. 28 2010,13:53) What is it you do not understand?
Like i said, they would be listing to the Words of Mosheh every Sabbath!
And why do you pull a verse from the letter to the Corinthians out of context, AS IF to support your false doctrines?
The Jewish Pharisees also do this. Here is an example.
WHen a little child asked his Rabbi why the Rabbi's do not do according to the Torah, the Jewish Rabbi answered, “On Nehemiah look, “It is not in heaven.” and pointed to a verse in the Torah. This Rabbi then went on to explain to the young Jewish boy that the Rabbis have all authority on earth to decipher the meaning of the written Torah and write takkanot and ma'asim, rules and traditions which become law for all the Jews. The rabbi went on to explain that the authority is not in heaven, it is with the Jewish Rabbis.Here are those same words 'in context” that so called Rabbi quoted from.
10 if you obey the voice of יהוה your Elohim, to guard His commands and His laws which are written in this Book of the Torah, if you turn back to יהוה your Elohim with all your heart and with all your being.
11 “For this command which I am commanding you today, it is not too hard for you, nor is it far off. 12 “It is not in the heavens, to say, ‘Who shall ascend into the heavens for us, and bring it to us, and cause us to hear it, so that we do it?’ 13 “Nor is it beyond the sea, to say, ‘Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it to us, and cause us to hear it, so that we do it?’ 14 “For the Word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart – to do it.
15 “See, I have set before you today life and good, and death and evil, 16 in that I am commanding you today to love יהוה your Elohim, to walk in His ways, and to guard His commands, and His laws, and His right-rulings. And you shall live and increase, and יהוה your Elohim shall bless you in the land which you go to possess. 17 “But if your heart turns away, and you do not obey, and shall be drawn away, and shall bow down to other mighty ones and serve them, 18 “I have declared to you today that you shall certainly perish, you shall not prolong your days in the land which you are passing over the Yardĕn to enter and possess.
19 “I have called the heavens and the earth as witnesses today against you: I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. Therefore you shall choose life, so that you live, both you and your seed, 20 to love יהוה your Elohim, to obey His voice, and to cling to Him – for He is your life and the length of your days – to dwell in the land which יהוה swore to your fathers, to Aḇraham, to Yitsḥaq, and to Ya῾aqoḇ, to give them.”So you can see that the Phophets were correct when they warned Yisra'el that there would be false prophets who speak against Torah, by their own doctrines and cause the people to stumble.
You are no different are you?
LMt 23:7 they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them ‘Rabbi.’
Mt 23:8 “But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have only one Master and you are all brothers.this is the teachings of the son of God the Christ.
Pierre
You posted rightly, but you ignored my question and the fact that you do the same thing as they do when you take the Word out of context and use it to your own imagination.
LMt 7:15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
Mt 24:11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.
Mt 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible.2Pe 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves.
1Jn 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world
so yes i do believe that it is so.
Pierre
So what you are trying to tell me is that you are a false prophet? Is that your answer?
Lam i ,a false prophet?? how would you justify that ??
or are you waiting until i just would say this? I do not know what you are looking for,
i was just mention that the OT and the NT are in accord .
Pierre
P,
I asked you to answer a previous question which you continue to answer. Then you posted verses about false phrophets, so i assumed you might be finally answering the question. Now you come back to say your references about false prophets somehow mean that the Old Testament was done away with? You are not making any sense. You speak with a jabbering lip.Quote (Laurel @ Nov. 28 2010,20:21) P,
I asked you to answer a previous question which you continue to answer. Then you posted verses about false phrophets, so i assumed you might be finally answering the question. Now you come back to say your references about false prophets somehow mean that the Old Testament was done away with? You are not making any sense. You speak with a jabbering lip.
Lyou mean,mean what this is your own meaning of what i say can not prevent that to happen,
but rephrase your question so i can answer it,
Pierre
P,
It seems we are not communicating very well so i will repost the questions and wait for your reply.
1)Where have i called Shaul a liar?2)Why do you believe the commands were done away with?
3)Who did away with them?
4)Who was given that authority?
5)Who do you follow?
Quote (Laurel @ Nov. 28 2010,21:28) P,
It seems we are not communicating very well so i will repost the questions and wait for your reply.
1)Where have i called Shaul a liar?2)Why do you believe the commands were done away with?
3)Who did away with them?
4)Who was given that authority?
5)Who do you follow?
Lon #1/my misunderstanding.
on #2,3,4,5, are connected to #1.you verry vague or that the way i understand it ,i am not very fluent in english so i have to pay extra attention ,
this is stranger to me ,and i do not know if you approve this or agree with it or not,or it is just a remark you are making
?Like i said, they would be listing to the Words of Mosheh every Sabbath!
And why do you pull a verse from the letter to the Corinthians out of context, AS IF to support your false doctrines?
The Jewish Pharisees also do this. Here is an example.
WHen a little child asked his Rabbi why the Rabbi's do not do according to the Torah, the Jewish Rabbi answered, “On Nehemiah look, “It is not in heaven.” and pointed to a verse in the Torah. This Rabbi then went on to explain to the young Jewish boy that the Rabbis have all authority on earth to decipher the meaning of the written Torah and write takkanot and ma'asim, rules and traditions which become law for all the Jews. The rabbi went on to explain that the authority is not in heaven, it is with the Jewish Rabbis.so i wait for your repply.
Pierre
Laurel! Let me answer your question about the Ten Commandments. In
Exd 34:28 And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.
This is the old covenant, which we are no longer under. Jesus came and gave us the new covenant in
Luk 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup [is] the new conenant in my blood, which is shed for you.
And He gave us the great commandments in
Mat 22:36 Master, which [is] the great commandment in the law?
Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Jesus also magnifies the Law and made it Holy. Now if we are angry with our Brothers we already have committed murder in our Hearts….etc. Irene
Irene or Baker,
Are you able to answer for another? I would guess that you are a woman, and the P is a man, and that the two of you are not married. I will also assume that Pierre is of age to answer for himself.I already know that you Irene are under some sort of dillusion, that you follow wolves in sheeps clothing, and that your heart is set to follow religion and not the ELohim of the Word as recorded by Mosheh and the Prophets, and taught by Yahushua Messiah and His taught ones such as Shaul (Paul). You are a believer in false doctrines, keep the sun-day, and all the other “pagan” religious days such a x-mas and Ashteroth day, and the worst part is that although i have been here before sharing the truth of the “renewed covenant” the true Good News, and the real Messiah Yahushua, you have rejected truth.
The verses you posted were spoken by my Master Yahushua the Jewish Messiah, my Teacher. He was speaking of the “Shema,” the first and most imortant command, but you could never grasp that since you were taught and believe that je_us is g_d. You were taught that sun-day is the proper day of worship, and that hanging Nimrod's balls on an evergreen tree that represents his penis is somehow a holy day unto my Father Yahuweh ELohim, and that decorating Ashteroth eggs still today which represents the 3 month old dead babies whos blood was used to dip eggs into as an offering to eas_er Your g_dess of fertility is also a holy thing to do unto my Father Yahuweh ELohim.
I say woe to you for hardening your heart like unto Pharaoh, and rejecting YAH's Set-apart Times and Seasons, therefor you will not hear these strong words because you are asleep in your seered conscience.
Deu 6:4 “Hear, O Yisraʼĕl: יהוה our Elohim, יהוה is one!
Deu 6:5 “And you shall love יהוה your Elohim with all your heart, and with all your being, and with all your might.
Deu 6:6 “And these Words which I am commanding you today shall be in your heart,
Deu 6:7 and you shall impress them upon your children, and shall speak of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise up,
Deu 6:8 and shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.
Deu 6:9 “And you shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.Deu 30:10 if you obey the voice of יהוה your Elohim, to guard His commands and His laws which are written in this Book of the Torah, if you turn back to יהוה your Elohim with all your heart and with all your being.
Deu 30:11 “For this command which I am commanding you today, it is not too hard for you, nor is it far off.
Deu 30:12 “It is not in the heavens, to say, ‘Who shall ascend into the heavens for us, and bring it to us, and cause us to hear it, so that we do it?ʼ
Deu 30:13 “Nor is it beyond the sea, to say, ‘Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it to us, and cause us to hear it, so that we do it?ʼ
Deu 30:14 “For the Word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart – to do it.Rom 10:5 For Mosheh writes about the righteousness which is of the Torah, “The man who does these shall live by them.”
Rom 10:6 But the righteousness of belief speaks in this way, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who shall ascend into the heavens?ʼ ” – that is, to bring Messiah down; or,
Rom 10:7 “ ‘Who shall descend into the abyss?ʼ ” – that is, to bring Messiah up from the dead.
Rom 10:8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” – that is, the word of belief which we are proclaiming:
Rom 10:9 That if you confess with your mouth the Master יהושע and believe in your heart that Elohim has raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and one confesses with the mouth, and so is saved.
(Shaul taught Torah!)Dan 7:24 ‘And the ten horns are ten sovereigns from this reign. They shall rise, and another shall rise after them, and it is different from the first ones, and it humbles three sovereigns,
Dan 7:25 and it speaks words against the Most High, and it wears out the set-apart ones of the Most High, and it intends to change appointed times and law, and they are given into its hand for a time and times and half a time.Dan 2:42 “And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the reign is partly strong and partly brittle.
Dan 2:43 “And as you saw iron mixed with muddy clay, they are mixing themselves with the seed of men, but they are not clinging to each other, even as iron does not mix with clay.
Dan 2:44 “And in the days of these sovereigns the Elah of the heavens shall set up a reign which shall never be destroyed, nor the reign pass on to other people – it crushes and puts to an end all these reigns, and it shall stand forever.
Dan 2:45 “Because you saw that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it crushed the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold, the great Elah has made known to the sovereign what shall be after this. And the dream is true, and its interpretation is trustworthy.”Irene, the iron is ROME. All the pieces of the statue in this dream are the ruling religious kingdoms of the earth who follow Babylonian SUN-day worship, celebrated Ashteroth and x-mass just like you do.
Jer 10:3 “For the prescribed customs of these peoples are worthless, for one cuts a tree from the forest, work for the hands of a craftsman with a cutting tool.
Jer 10:4 “They adorn it with silver and gold, they fasten it with nails and hammers so that it does not topple.
Jer 10:5 “They are like a rounded post, and they do not speak. They have to be carried, because they do not walk. Do not be afraid of them, for they do no evil, nor is it in them to do any good.”
Jer 10:6 There is none like You, O יהוה. You are great, and great is Your Name in might.
Jer 10:7 Who would not fear You, O Sovereign of the nations? For this is Your due, for among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their reigns, there is none like You.
Jer 10:8 They are both brutish and foolish, an instruction of worthlessness is the tree.
Jer 10:9 Silver is beaten into plates; it is brought from Tarshish, and gold from Uphaz, the work of the craftsman and of the hands of the smith; draped in blue and purple; all of them are the work of skilled ones.
Jer 10:10 But יהוה is truly Elohim. He is the living Elohim and the everlasting Sovereign. At His wrath the earth shakes, and nations are unable to stand His displeasure.and here is the hot-cross buns of your Ashteroth day:
Jer 7:15 “And I shall cast you out of My presence, as I have cast out all your brothers, all the seed of Ephrayim.
Jer 7:16 “And you, do not pray for this people, nor lift up a cry or prayer for them, nor make intercession to Me, for I do not hear you.
Jer 7:17 “Do you not see what they are doing in the cities of Yehuḏah and in the streets of Yerushalayim?
Jer 7:18 “The children are gathering wood, the fathers are lighting the fire, and the women are kneading their dough, to make cakes for the sovereigness of the heavens, and to pour out drink offerings to other mighty ones, to provoke Me.
Jer 7:19 “Is it Me they are provoking?” declares יהוה. “Is it not themselves – unto the shame of their own faces?”Jer 16:17 “For My eyes are on all their ways; they have not been hidden from My face, nor has their crookedness been hidden from My eyes.
Jer 16:18 “And first I shall repay double for their crookedness and their sin, because they have defiled My land with the dead bodies of their disg
usting matters, and have filled My inheritance with their abominations.”
Jer 16:19 O יהוה, my strength and my stronghold and my refuge, in the day of distress the gentiles shall come to You from the ends of the earth and say, “Our fathers have inherited only falsehood, futility, and there is no value in them.”
Jer 16:20 Would a man make mighty ones for himself, which are not mighty ones?
Jer 16:21 “Therefore see, I am causing them to know, this time I cause them to know My hand and My might. And they shall know that My Name is יהוה!”Mat 7:20 “So then, by their fruits you shall know them –
Mat 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Master, Master,ʼ shall enter into the reign of the heavens, but he who is doing the desire of My Father in the heavens.
Mat 7:22 “Many shall say to Me in that day, ‘Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?ʼ
Mat 7:23 “And then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!
Mat 7:24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does them, shall be like a wise man who built his house on the rock,
Mat 7:25 and the rain came down, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.
Mat 7:26 “And everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does not do them, shall be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand,
Mat 7:27 and the rain came down, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and they beat on that house, and it fell, and great was its fall.”Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.
Rev 14:12 Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those guarding the commands of Elohim and the belief of יהושע.2
1Co 5:8 So then let us observe the festival, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of evil and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
Heb 4:9 So there remains a Sabbath-keeping for the people of Elohim.
Act 7:42 “So Elohim turned and gave them up to worship the host of the heaven, as it has been written in the book of the Prophets, ‘Did you bring slaughtered beasts and offerings unto Me during forty years in the wilderness, O house of Yisraʼĕl?
Act 7:43 ‘And you took up the tent of Moleḵ, and the star of your mighty one Kiyyun, images which you made to bow before them. Therefore I shall remove you beyond Baḇel.ʼLastly Irene, if you really are “spiritual Yisra'el” and grafted in to the tree of life, then you have to admit, these things are true for you. You need to see that you are worshipping falsely, just like the Yisrael of old, which is the ONLY reason we needed a Messiah in the first place.
Mat 15:24 And He answering, said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Yisraʼĕl.”
You need to find out why you are called a lost sheep.
Quote (Laurel @ Nov. 29 2010,02:48) Irene or Baker,
Are you able to answer for another? I would guess that you are a woman, and the P is a man, and that the two of you are not married. I will also assume that Pierre is of age to answer for himself.I already know that you Irene are under some sort of dillusion, that you follow wolves in sheeps clothing, and that your heart is set to follow religion and not the ELohim of the Word as recorded by Mosheh and the Prophets, and taught by Yahushua Messiah and His taught ones such as Shaul (Paul). You are a believer in false doctrines, keep the sun-day, and all the other “pagan” religious days such a x-mas and Ashteroth day, and the worst part is that although i have been here before sharing the truth of the “renewed covenant” the true Good News, and the real Messiah Yahushua, you have rejected truth.
The verses you posted were spoken by my Master Yahushua the Jewish Messiah, my Teacher. He was speaking of the “Shema,” the first and most imortant command, but you could never grasp that since you were taught and believe that je_us is g_d. You were taught that sun-day is the proper day of worship, and that hanging Nimrod's balls on an evergreen tree that represents his penis is somehow a holy day unto my Father Yahuweh ELohim, and that decorating Ashteroth eggs still today which represents the 3 month old dead babies whos blood was used to dip eggs into as an offering to eas_er Your g_dess of fertility is also a holy thing to do unto my Father Yahuweh ELohim.
I say woe to you for hardening your heart like unto Pharaoh, and rejecting YAH's Set-apart Times and Seasons, therefor you will not hear these strong words because you are asleep in your seered conscience.
Deu 6:4 “Hear, O Yisraʼĕl: יהוה our Elohim, יהוה is one!
Deu 6:5 “And you shall love יהוה your Elohim with all your heart, and with all your being, and with all your might.
Deu 6:6 “And these Words which I am commanding you today shall be in your heart,
Deu 6:7 and you shall impress them upon your children, and shall speak of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise up,
Deu 6:8 and shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.
Deu 6:9 “And you shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.Deu 30:10 if you obey the voice of יהוה your Elohim, to guard His commands and His laws which are written in this Book of the Torah, if you turn back to יהוה your Elohim with all your heart and with all your being.
Deu 30:11 “For this command which I am commanding you today, it is not too hard for you, nor is it far off.
Deu 30:12 “It is not in the heavens, to say, ‘Who shall ascend into the heavens for us, and bring it to us, and cause us to hear it, so that we do it?ʼ
Deu 30:13 “Nor is it beyond the sea, to say, ‘Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it to us, and cause us to hear it, so that we do it?ʼ
Deu 30:14 “For the Word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart – to do it.Rom 10:5 For Mosheh writes about the righteousness which is of the Torah, “The man who does these shall live by them.”
Rom 10:6 But the righteousness of belief speaks in this way, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who shall ascend into the heavens?ʼ ” – that is, to bring Messiah down; or,
Rom 10:7 “ ‘Who shall descend into the abyss?ʼ ” – that is, to bring Messiah up from the dead.
Rom 10:8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” – that is, the word of belief which we are proclaiming:
Rom 10:9 That if you confess with your mouth the Master יהושע and believe in your heart that Elohim has raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and one confesses with the mouth, and so is saved.
(Shaul taught Torah!)Dan 7:24 ‘And the ten horns are ten sovereigns from this reign. They shall rise, and another shall rise after them, and it is different from the first ones, and it humbles three sovereigns,
Dan 7:25 and it speaks words against the Most High, and it wears out the set-apart ones of the Most High, and it intends to change appointed times and law, and they are given into its hand for a time and times and half a time.Dan 2:42 “And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the reign is partly strong and partly brittle.
Dan 2:43 “And as you saw iron mixed with muddy clay, they are mixing themselves with the seed of men, but they are not clinging to each other, even as iron does not mix with clay.
Dan 2:44 “And in the days of these sovereigns the Elah of the heavens shall set up a reign which shall never be destroyed, nor the reign pass on to other people – it crushes and puts to an end all these reigns, and it shall stand forever.
Dan 2:45 “Because you saw that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it crushed the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold, the great Elah has made known to the sovereign what shall be after this. And the dream is true, and its interpretation is trustworthy.”Irene, the iron is ROME. All the pieces of the statue in this dream are the ruling religious kingdoms of the earth who follow Babylonian SUN-day worship, celebrated Ashteroth and x-mass just like you do.
Jer 10:3 “For the prescribed customs of these peoples are worthless, for one cuts a tree from the forest, work for the hands of a craftsman with a cutting tool.
Jer 10:4 “They adorn it with silver and gold, they fasten it with nails and hammers so that it does not topple.
Jer 10:5 “They are like a rounded post, and they do not speak. They have to be carried, because they do not walk. Do not be afraid of them, for they do no evil, nor is it in them to do any good.”
Jer 10:6 There is none like You, O יהוה. You are great, and great is Your Name in might.
Jer 10:7 Who would not fear You, O Sovereign of the nations? For this is Your due, for among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their reigns, there is none like You.
Jer 10:8 They are both brutish and foolish, an instruction of worthlessness is the tree.
Jer 10:9 Silver is beaten into plates; it is brought from Tarshish, and gold from Uphaz, the work of the craftsman and of the hands of the smith; draped in blue and purple; all of them are the work of skilled ones.
Jer 10:10 But יהוה is truly Elohim. He is the living Elohim and the everlasting Sovereign. At His wrath the earth shakes, and nations are unable to stand His displeasure.and here is the hot-cross buns of your Ashteroth day:
Jer 7:15 “And I shall cast you out of My presence, as I have cast out all your brothers, all the seed of Ephrayim.
Jer 7:16 “And you, do not pray for this people, nor lift up a cry or prayer for them, nor make intercession to Me, for I do not hear you.
Jer 7:17 “Do you not see what they are doing in the cities of Yehuḏah and in the streets of Yerushalayim?
Jer 7:18 “The children are gathering wood, the fathers are lighting the fire, and the women are kneading their dough, to make cakes for the sovereigness of the heavens, and to pour out drink offerings to other mighty ones, to provoke Me.
Jer 7:19 “Is it Me they are provoking?” declares יהוה. “Is it not themselves – unto the shame of their own faces?”Jer 16:17 “For My eyes are on all their ways; they have not been hidden f
rom My face, nor has their crookedness been hidden from My eyes.
Jer 16:18 “And first I shall repay double for their crookedness and their sin, because they have defiled My land with the dead bodies of their disgusting matters, and have filled My inheritance with their abominations.”
Jer 16:19 O יהוה, my strength and my stronghold and my refuge, in the day of distress the gentiles shall come to You from the ends of the earth and say, “Our fathers have inherited only falsehood, futility, and there is no value in them.”
Jer 16:20 Would a man make mighty ones for himself, which are not mighty ones?
Jer 16:21 “Therefore see, I am causing them to know, this time I cause them to know My hand and My might. And they shall know that My Name is יהוה!”Mat 7:20 “So then, by their fruits you shall know them –
Mat 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Master, Master,ʼ shall enter into the reign of the heavens, but he who is doing the desire of My Father in the heavens.
Mat 7:22 “Many shall say to Me in that day, ‘Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?ʼ
Mat 7:23 “And then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!
Mat 7:24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does them, shall be like a wise man who built his house on the rock,
Mat 7:25 and the rain came down, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.
Mat 7:26 “And everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does not do them, shall be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand,
Mat 7:27 and the rain came down, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and they beat on that house, and it fell, and great was its fall.”Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.
Rev 14:12 Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those guarding the commands of Elohim and the belief of יהושע.2
1Co 5:8 So then let us observe the festival, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of evil and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
Heb 4:9 So there remains a Sabbath-keeping for the people of Elohim.
Act 7:42 “So Elohim turned and gave them up to worship the host of the heaven, as it has been written in the book of the Prophets, ‘Did you bring slaughtered beasts and offerings unto Me during forty years in the wilderness, O house of Yisraʼĕl?
Act 7:43 ‘And you took up the tent of Moleḵ, and the star of your mighty one Kiyyun, images which you made to bow before them. Therefore I shall remove you beyond Baḇel.ʼLastly Irene, if you really are “spiritual Yisra'el” and grafted in to the tree of life, then you have to admit, these things are true for you. You need to see that you are worshipping falsely, just like the Yisrael of old, which is the ONLY reason we needed a Messiah in the first place.
Mat 15:24 And He answering, said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Yisraʼĕl.”
You need to find out why you are called a lost sheep.
Laurel, for your information, I follow no man….No organized religion.
I go strictly by the Bible. And you don't
understand the new covenant at all. maybe you need to think about what you just wrote in your last statement….You really are jumping to conclusion and have no clue what I believe and what I follow It certainly is not any false religion at all…..
Boy, how wrong can you get…..And Baker is our new users name and my name is Irene, the one who went around in circles with you before. So I don'[t expect any different from you…. I happen to know you, while you jump to conclusions. We are not in the old covenant, but the new,… The Sabbath also was never meant for us. Read and learnExd 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, [for] a perpetual covenant.
Exd 31:17 It [is] a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for [in] six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
A perceptual covenant, means forever…..That is why the Jewish People still keep it…. We are gentiles bought by Christ's Blood….
So you Laurel, how yes, Laurel are wrong…..No pagan Holidays I keep. And it is coming up…. Can't wait until all is over again.,…
Let me quote you a Scripture that you seem to ignore in
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
Eph 2:6 And hath raised [us] up together, and made [us] sit together in heavenly [places] in Christ Jesus:
Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in [his] kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
Do you see that you are boating Laurel? Yes, you are telling me all kinds of wrongs I do,which I don't even do….So now who is right and who is wrong? But this you will never see, because the God of this world has blinded you…..
IreneQuote (theodorej @ Nov. 28 2010,06:01) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 26 2010,03:50) Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 25 2010,21:16) The term rich is not applied in a literal sense ,with respect to monetary wealth….Jesus was rich in virtue,understanding,wisdom and character
Hi Ted,Which one of these things did Jesus stop possessing when he became “poor” for us?
mike
Mike …. He was never poor
Hi Ted,But the scripture clearly says he became “poor” for us.
mike
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Irene or Baker,
Are you able to answer for another? I would guess that you are a woman, and the P is a man, and that the two of you are not married. I will also assume that Pierre is of age to answer for himself.I already know that you Irene are under some sort of dillusion, that you follow wolves in sheeps clothing, and that your heart is set to follow religion and not the ELohim of the Word as recorded by Mosheh and the Prophets, and taught by Yahushua Messiah and His taught ones such as Shaul (Paul). You are a believer in false doctrines, keep the sun-day, and all the other “pagan” religious days such a x-mas and Ashteroth day, and the worst part is that although i have been here before sharing the truth of the “renewed covenant” the true Good News, and the real Messiah
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Boy,boy ,you go go,go,and do not think,:D 
so you figure all things out what people do and not do what they believe and not believe ,this is why i could not understand you,
I am also like Irene ,a bible reader ,no religion affiliation.
but what is your religion may I ask???
Pierre
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Irene or Baker,
Are you able to answer for another? I would guess that you are a woman, and the P is a man, and that the two of you are not married. I will also assume that Pierre is of age to answer for himself.I already know that you Irene are under some sort of dillusion, that you follow wolves in sheeps clothing, and that your heart is set to follow religion and not the ELohim of the Word as recorded by Mosheh and the Prophets, and taught by Yahushua Messiah and His taught ones such as Shaul (Paul). You are a believer in false doctrines, keep the sun-day, and all the other “pagan” religious days such a x-mas and Ashteroth day, and the worst part is that although i have been here before sharing the truth of the “renewed covenant” the true Good News, and the real Messiah
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Boy,boy ,you go go,go,and do not think,:D so you figure all things out what people do and not do what they believe and not believe ,this is why i could not understand you,
I am also like Irene ,a bible reader ,no religion affiliation.
but what is your religion may I ask???
Pierre
Hi Pierre, Laurel is a long standing member here, and I have gone around in circles with her before. Mainly about keeping the Sabbath, if I can remember correctly….I need to search and find some of Her posts, just to see if she learned anything at all….IreneQuote (Baker @ Nov. 29 2010,11:56) Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 29 2010,04:43) L
Irene or Baker,
Are you able to answer for another? I would guess that you are a woman, and the P is a man, and that the two of you are not married. I will also assume that Pierre is of age to answer for himself.I already know that you Irene are under some sort of dillusion, that you follow wolves in sheeps clothing, and that your heart is set to follow religion and not the ELohim of the Word as recorded by Mosheh and the Prophets, and taught by Yahushua Messiah and His taught ones such as Shaul (Paul). You are a believer in false doctrines, keep the sun-day, and all the other “pagan” religious days such a x-mas and Ashteroth day, and the worst part is that although i have been here before sharing the truth of the “renewed covenant” the true Good News, and the real Messiah
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Boy,boy ,you go go,go,and do not think,:D so you figure all things out what people do and not do what they believe and not believe ,this is why i could not understand you,
I am also like Irene ,a bible reader ,no religion affiliation.
but what is your religion may I ask???
Pierre
Hi Pierre, Laurel is a long standing member here, and I have gone around in circles with her before. Mainly about keeping the Sabbath, if I can remember correctly….I need to search and find some of Her posts, just to see if she learned anything at all….Irene
hi Ireneso she is a she, not a he,
Pierre
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Irene or Baker,
Are you able to answer for another? I would guess that you are a woman, and the P is a man, and that the two of you are not married. I will also assume that Pierre is of age to answer for himself.I already know that you Irene are under some sort of dillusion, that you follow wolves in sheeps clothing, and that your heart is set to follow religion and not the ELohim of the Word as recorded by Mosheh and the Prophets, and taught by Yahushua Messiah and His taught ones such as Shaul (Paul). You are a believer in false doctrines, keep the sun-day, and all the other “pagan” religious days such a x-mas and Ashteroth day, and the worst part is that although i have been here before sharing the truth of the “renewed covenant” the true Good News, and the real Messiah
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Boy,boy ,you go go,go,and do not think,:D so you figure all things out what people do and not do what they believe and not believe ,this is why i could not understand you,
I am also like Irene ,a bible reader ,no religion affiliation.
but what is your religion may I ask???
Pierre
Hi Pierre, Laurel is a long standing member here, and I have gone around in circles with her before. Mainly about keeping the Sabbath, if I can remember correctly….I need to search and find some of Her posts, just to see if she learned anything at all….Irene
hi Ireneso she is a she, not a he,
Pierre
Yes, Pierre Laurel is a She…….. I was looking for something on the
Sabbath, but can't find anything……Quote (Laurel @ Nov. 29 2010,02:48) Irene or Baker,
Are you able to answer for another? I would guess that you are a woman, and the P is a man, and that the two of you are not married. I will also assume that Pierre is of age to answer for himself.I already know that you Irene are under some sort of dillusion, that you follow wolves in sheeps clothing, and that your heart is set to follow religion and not the ELohim of the Word as recorded by Mosheh and the Prophets, and taught by Yahushua Messiah and His taught ones such as Shaul (Paul). You are a believer in false doctrines, keep the sun-day, and all the other “pagan” religious days such a x-mas and Ashteroth day, and the worst part is that although i have been here before sharing the truth of the “renewed covenant” the true Good News, and the real Messiah Yahushua, you have rejected truth.
The verses you posted were spoken by my Master Yahushua the Jewish Messiah, my Teacher. He was speaking of the “Shema,” the first and most imortant command, but you could never grasp that since you were taught and believe that je_us is g_d. You were taught that sun-day is the proper day of worship, and that hanging Nimrod's balls on an evergreen tree that represents his penis is somehow a holy day unto my Father Yahuweh ELohim, and that decorating Ashteroth eggs still today which represents the 3 month old dead babies whos blood was used to dip eggs into as an offering to eas_er Your g_dess of fertility is also a holy thing to do unto my Father Yahuweh ELohim.
I say woe to you for hardening your heart like unto Pharaoh, and rejecting YAH's Set-apart Times and Seasons, therefor you will not hear these strong words because you are asleep in your seered conscience.
Deu 6:4 “Hear, O Yisraʼĕl: יהוה our Elohim, יהוה is one!
Deu 6:5 “And you shall love יהוה your Elohim with all your heart, and with all your being, and with all your might.
Deu 6:6 “And these Words which I am commanding you today shall be in your heart,
Deu 6:7 and you shall impress them upon your children, and shall speak of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise up,
Deu 6:8 and shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.
Deu 6:9 “And you shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.Deu 30:10 if you obey the voice of יהוה your Elohim, to guard His commands and His laws which are written in this Book of the Torah, if you turn back to יהוה your Elohim with all your heart and with all your being.
Deu 30:11 “For this command which I am commanding you today, it is not too hard for you, nor is it far off.
Deu 30:12 “It is not in the heavens, to say, ‘Who shall ascend into the heavens for us, and bring it to us, and cause us to hear it, so that we do it?ʼ
Deu 30:13 “Nor is it beyond the sea, to say, ‘Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it to us, and cause us to hear it, so that we do it?ʼ
Deu 30:14 “For the Word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart – to do it.Rom 10:5 For Mosheh writes about the righteousness which is of the Torah, “The man who does these shall live by them.”
Rom 10:6 But the righteousness of belief speaks in this way, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who shall ascend into the heavens?ʼ ” – that is, to bring Messiah down; or,
Rom 10:7 “ ‘Who shall descend into the abyss?ʼ ” – that is, to bring Messiah up from the dead.
Rom 10:8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” – that is, the word of belief which we are proclaiming:
Rom 10:9 That if you confess with your mouth the Master יהושע and believe in your heart that Elohim has raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved.
Rom 10:10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and one confesses with the mouth, and so is saved.
(Shaul taught Torah!)Dan 7:24 ‘And the ten horns are ten sovereigns from this reign. They shall rise, and another shall rise after them, and it is different from the first ones, and it humbles three sovereigns,
Dan 7:25 and it speaks words against the Most High, and it wears out the set-apart ones of the Most High, and it intends to change appointed times and law, and they are given into its hand for a time and times and half a time.Dan 2:42 “And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the reign is partly strong and partly brittle.
Dan 2:43 “And as you saw iron mixed with muddy clay, they are mixing themselves with the seed of men, but they are not clinging to each other, even as iron does not mix with clay.
Dan 2:44 “And in the days of these sovereigns the Elah of the heavens shall set up a reign which shall never be destroyed, nor the reign pass on to other people – it crushes and puts to an end all these reigns, and it shall stand forever.
Dan 2:45 “Because you saw that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it crushed the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold, the great Elah has made known to the sovereign what shall be after this. And the dream is true, and its interpretation is trustworthy.”Irene, the iron is ROME. All the pieces of the statue in this dream are the ruling religious kingdoms of the earth who follow Babylonian SUN-day worship, celebrated Ashteroth and x-mass just like you do.
Jer 10:3 “For the prescribed customs of these peoples are worthless, for one cuts a tree from the forest, work for the hands of a craftsman with a cutting tool.
Jer 10:4 “They adorn it with silver and gold, they fasten it with nails and hammers so that it does not topple.
Jer 10:5 “They are like a rounded post, and they do not speak. They have to be carried, because they do not walk. Do not be afraid of them, for they do no evil, nor is it in them to do any good.”
Jer 10:6 There is none like You, O יהוה. You are great, and great is Your Name in might.
Jer 10:7 Who would not fear You, O Sovereign of the nations? For this is Your due, for among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their reigns, there is none like You.
Jer 10:8 They are both brutish and foolish, an instruction of worthlessness is the tree.
Jer 10:9 Silver is beaten into plates; it is brought from Tarshish, and gold from Uphaz, the work of the craftsman and of the hands of the smith; draped in blue and purple; all of them are the work of skilled ones.
Jer 10:10 But יהוה is truly Elohim. He is the living Elohim and the everlasting Sovereign. At His wrath the earth shakes, and nations are unable to stand His displeasure.and here is the hot-cross buns of your Ashteroth day:
Jer 7:15 “And I shall cast you out of My presence, as I have cast out all your brothers, all the seed of Ephrayim.
Jer 7:16 “And you, do not pray for this people, nor lift up a cry or prayer for them, nor make intercession to Me, for I do not hear you.
Jer 7:17 “Do you not see what they are doing in the cities of Yehuḏah and in the streets of Yerushalayim?
Jer 7:18 “The children are gathering wood, the fathers are lighting the fire, and the women are kneading their dough, to make cakes for the sovereigness of the heavens, and to pour out drink offerings to other mighty ones, to provoke Me.
Jer 7:19 “Is it Me they are provoking?” declares יהוה. “Is it not themselves – unto the shame of their own faces?”Jer 16:17 “For My eyes are on all their ways; they have not been hidden f
rom My face, nor has their crookedness been hidden from My eyes.
Jer 16:18 “And first I shall repay double for their crookedness and their sin, because they have defiled My land with the dead bodies of their disgusting matters, and have filled My inheritance with their abominations.”
Jer 16:19 O יהוה, my strength and my stronghold and my refuge, in the day of distress the gentiles shall come to You from the ends of the earth and say, “Our fathers have inherited only falsehood, futility, and there is no value in them.”
Jer 16:20 Would a man make mighty ones for himself, which are not mighty ones?
Jer 16:21 “Therefore see, I am causing them to know, this time I cause them to know My hand and My might. And they shall know that My Name is יהוה!”Mat 7:20 “So then, by their fruits you shall know them –
Mat 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Master, Master,ʼ shall enter into the reign of the heavens, but he who is doing the desire of My Father in the heavens.
Mat 7:22 “Many shall say to Me in that day, ‘Master, Master, have we not prophesied in Your Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and done many mighty works in Your Name?ʼ
Mat 7:23 “And then I shall declare to them, ‘I never knew you, depart from Me, you who work lawlessness!
Mat 7:24 “Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does them, shall be like a wise man who built his house on the rock,
Mat 7:25 and the rain came down, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.
Mat 7:26 “And everyone who hears these words of Mine, and does not do them, shall be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand,
Mat 7:27 and the rain came down, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and they beat on that house, and it fell, and great was its fall.”Joh 14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.
Rev 14:12 Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those guarding the commands of Elohim and the belief of יהושע.2
1Co 5:8 So then let us observe the festival, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of evil and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
Heb 4:9 So there remains a Sabbath-keeping for the people of Elohim.
Act 7:42 “So Elohim turned and gave them up to worship the host of the heaven, as it has been written in the book of the Prophets, ‘Did you bring slaughtered beasts and offerings unto Me during forty years in the wilderness, O house of Yisraʼĕl?
Act 7:43 ‘And you took up the tent of Moleḵ, and the star of your mighty one Kiyyun, images which you made to bow before them. Therefore I shall remove you beyond Baḇel.ʼLastly Irene, if you really are “spiritual Yisra'el” and grafted in to the tree of life, then you have to admit, these things are true for you. You need to see that you are worshipping falsely, just like the Yisrael of old, which is the ONLY reason we needed a Messiah in the first place.
Mat 15:24 And He answering, said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Yisraʼĕl.”
You need to find out why you are called a lost sheep.
Dear Irene,
You can throw Scripture at me all day. There isn't one i disagree with and every single Word supports my belief.In the kingdom of heaven there will not be a single Gentile.
Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the great city, the set-apart Yerushalayim, descending out of the heaven from Elohim,
Rev 21:11 having the esteem of Elohim, and her light was like a most precious stone, like a jasper stone, clear as crystal,
Rev 21:12 and having a great and high wall, having twelve gates, and at the gates twelve messengers, and names written on them, which are those of the twelve tribes of the children of Yisraʼĕl:1 Footnote: 1See Eze. 47:22-23, Eze. 48:31-34.Joh 10:1 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who does not enter through the door into the sheepfold, but climbs up by another way, that one is a thief and a robber.
Joh 10:2 “But he who enters through the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
Joh 10:3 “The doorkeeper opens for him, and the sheep hear his voice. And he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
Joh 10:4 “And when he has brought out his own sheep, he goes before them. And the sheep follow him, because they know his voice.
Joh 10:5 “And they shall by no means follow a stranger, but shall flee from him, because they do not know the voice of strangers.”
Joh 10:6 יהושע used this figure of speech, but they did not know what He had been saying to them.
Joh 10:7 יהושע therefore said to them again, “Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.
Joh 10:8 “All who came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
Joh 10:9 “I am the door. Whoever enters through Me, he shall be saved, and shall go in and shall go out and find pasture.
Joh 10:10 “The thief does not come except to steal, and to slaughter, and to destroy. I have come that they might possess life, and that they might possess it beyond measure.
Joh 10:11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.
Joh 10:12 “But the hireling, and not being a shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees. And the wolf snatches the sheep and scatters them.
Joh 10:13 “Now the hireling flees because he is a hireling and is not concerned about the sheep.
Joh 10:14 “I am the good shepherd.1 And I know Mine, and Mine know Me, Footnote: 1Ezek. 34:11-12, Heb. 13:20, 1 Peter 2:25, 1 Peter 5:4.
Joh 10:15 even as the Father knows Me, and I know the Father. And I lay down My life for the sheep.
Joh 10:16 “And other sheep I have which are not of this fold – I have to bring them as well, and they shall hear My voice, and there shall be one flock, one shepherd.1 Footnote: 1Ezek. 34:23, Ezek. 37:24.Irene, because you follow “another gospel” you do not know what covenant you are under.
1Co 4:7 For who makes you to differ? And what do you have that you did not receive? And if you did indeed receive it, why do you boast as if you had not received it?
1Co 4:8 You are already satisfied! You are already enriched! You have reigned as sovereigns, apart from us! And I wish, indeed, you did reign, that we also might reign with you!Rom 11:13 For I speak to you, the gentiles, inasmuch as I am an emissary to the gentiles, I esteem my service,
Rom 11:14 if somehow I might provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh and save some of them.
Rom 11:15 For if their casting away is the restoration to favour of the world, what is their acceptance but life from the dead?
Rom 11:16 Now if the first-fruit is set-apart, the lump is also. And if the root is set-apart, so are the branches.
Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, have been grafted in among them, and came to share the root and fatness of the olive tree,
Rom 11:18 do not boast against the branches. And if you boast, remember: you do not bear the root, but the root bears you!
Rom 11:19 You shall say then, “The branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.”
Rom 11:20 Good! By unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by belief. Do not be arrogant, but fear.
Rom 11:21 For if Elohim did not spare the natural branches, He might not spare you either.Exo 12:49 “There is one Torah for the native-born and for the stranger who sojourns among you.”
Exo 12:50 And all the children of Yisraʼĕl did as יהוה commanded Mosh
eh and Aharon, so they did.
Exo 12:51 And it came to be on that same day that יהוה brought the children of Yisraʼĕl out of the land of Mitsrayim according to their divisions.Pierre,
I carefully chose my words for i know that i am called to reflect the love and belief of the Messiah. I am of no organized religion, but in the past i tried to fit in with many different denominations, to no avail.
My Teacher is Yahushua the Messiah. He has lead me these last five or so years into a place of shalom with my Father in heaven. I am a stranger and a sojourner in this world, which is why i could not fit into a religion, for all religions are made of the doctrines and traditions of men.True freedom, grace, and salvation came when i dedicated my physical body and my heart to serving YHWH ELohim, the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and i trust that Yahushua Messiah's blood was sufficient to cover all my iniquities. For this reason i became a free servant and an obedient daughter of YHWH Elohim, my Father in heaven. I love His Torah, and i love His Son and i even love Irene!
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Irene or Baker,
Are you able to answer for another? I would guess that you are a woman, and the P is a man, and that the two of you are not married. I will also assume that Pierre is of age to answer for himself.I already know that you Irene are under some sort of dillusion, that you follow wolves in sheeps clothing, and that your heart is set to follow religion and not the ELohim of the Word as recorded by Mosheh and the Prophets, and taught by Yahushua Messiah and His taught ones such as Shaul (Paul). You are a believer in false doctrines, keep the sun-day, and all the other “pagan” religious days such a x-mas and Ashteroth day, and the worst part is that although i have been here before sharing the truth of the “renewed covenant” the true Good News, and the real Messiah
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Boy,boy ,you go go,go,and do not think,:D so you figure all things out what people do and not do what they believe and not believe ,this is why i could not understand you,
I am also like Irene ,a bible reader ,no religion affiliation.
but what is your religion may I ask???
Pierre
Hi Pierre, Laurel is a long standing member here, and I have gone around in circles with her before. Mainly about keeping the Sabbath, if I can remember correctly….I need to search and find some of Her posts, just to see if she learned anything at all….Irene
hi Irenehow you feeling??
like this one;Col 2:16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
Pierre
Quote (Laurel @ Nov. 29 2010,18:51) Pierre,
I carefully chose my words for i know that i am called to reflect the love and belief of the Messiah. I am of no organized religion, but in the past i tried to fit in with many different denominations, to no avail.
My Teacher is Yahushua the Messiah. He has lead me these last five or so years into a place of shalom with my Father in heaven. I am a stranger and a sojourner in this world, which is why i could not fit into a religion, for all religions are made of the doctrines and traditions of men.True freedom, grace, and salvation came when i dedicated my physical body and my heart to serving YHWH ELohim, the Elohim of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and i trust that Yahushua Messiah's blood was sufficient to cover all my iniquities. For this reason i became a free servant and an obedient daughter of YHWH Elohim, my Father in heaven. I love His Torah, and i love His Son and i even love Irene!
Lcould tell me what are you believes;
?Pierre
Well Pierre, the verse you quoted about not judging anyone on what we eat, or the Sabbaths or the Feast of YHWH, or the New Moons, was written to men and women who kept the Sabbaths, the Feasts of YHWH and only ate kosher foods as recorded in Torah.
Many will come mocking and trying to tell me that the Sabbath was done away with but i believe the Word of my Father in heaven, and His Son, my Teacher who kept all these.
For me, the Sabbath is a joy, something i look forward to each week. It is my Father's Appointed time, and i am learning to keep those appointments out of love and respect for Him.
The Sabbath has much to teach us if only we humble ourselves to actually guarding this very special command. It is an everlasting memorial of the covenant and the One WHo we serve to this day, and forever!
I believe that Salvation comes by the favour of the All Mighty. His name is YHWH. He is ELohim. I believe thatYHWH Elohim sent Yahushua the Messiah who was born of a virgin, that He walked in the Torah perfectly, that He is the Phrophet promised to Mosheh who i must obey. I believe He was hanged on a stake, died, was burried in a tomb which was owned by a rich man, where never before a man had been laid. On the third day He rose, on the fouth day he assended to His Father in heaven, He returned with hope for all mankind, that whosoever believes this will be saved in the Last Day.
Hell is not a place of the living dead. It is a fire that burns and no person cast into that fire lives, but return to ash and dust forever separated from YHWH and His kingdom. Everlasting life is only promised to them who are of the belief and obedience that the Messiah taught as recorded in Torah.
The new covenant isn't really new at all. It is renewed like the moon which is also called new, but really it is the same moon, in another cycle. The same Hebrew word is used to describe the new moon and the new covenant. The renewed covenant promises were given to Mosheh at Mt Siani in Ariabia, where YHWH Elohim spoke to him in a burning bush, and He wrote the 10 words with His own finger, the words of the covenant. The Sabbath, being the 4th is a sign of that covenant.
The Feasts are to teach us of the things that the Messiah must accomplish for the kingdom of heaven to be resotored and all evil to be destroyed.
The Passover has much to teach on the person of the Messiah. He fullfilled the Passover to the day, hour, and the letter as the suffering servant and the Passover Lamb offering. His death was for the adulterous bride, Yisra'el and all who sojourn with Yisra'el, becoming Yisra'el which means “to overcome with El.” The book of Revelations deals with the churches and there is a promise to all who overcome.
There is more to come. All things have not been accomplished, which is used by the Rabbis to confuse the Jews into thinking that the Messiah has not come yet. But looking at Torah through the eyes of the Messiah i have seen the fulfillment of all things will come with a trumpet blast, and thus we see the words “new moons” when refering not to judge my sisters and brothers in the Way, for only YHWH knows the exact hour and day when His fury and His judgment will come. ANd He has set an Appointment for that day.
When all is fulfilled, only then shall the Messiah take back the deed to this world and rightly rule in the kingdom of heaven, untill then HaSatan holds that deed, the title to rule here on this corrupt earth.
In the meanwhile, we shall learn to walk in the footsteps of the Messiah and do His commands, for they are not grevious and His yoke is not heavy. As Yahushua is light and life to them who follow Him, the Torah is light and life to them who will obey. So i put 2 and 2 together and found that the old and new testaments are really one complete book. Only learning from 1/2 of it can only get you 1/2 of what you need for the rough journey and trying times that are a part of coming out of the world and waiting upon YAH.
Seven times in the book of Revelations i was taught that those who overcome are not only believers, but are obedient believers. They will inherit the new earth.
L
you believe in the sabbath ,and that this sabbath still in effect today and since Christ dead.right??
so you most believe that the circumcision for male children are in effect as well,right??
you also believe that Christ was send by God so you believe in the preexistence of Christ,right??
also you believe that the OT and the NT are one book good,but so that the OT contains the old covenant and the NT contains the new covenant that replace the old covenant,right??
you also believe that we are saved by the grace of God,and so not by works ,right??
and that Christ died for our sins so that we may be reconciled with God his father,right??
IS THIS ALL CORRECT??
Pierre
L
you believe in the sabbath ,and that this sabbath still in effect today and since Christ dead.right??
A. The Messiah's has has nothing to do with the Sabbath command being forever and ever, but His death has everything to do with me keeping it myself.
so you most believe that the circumcision for male children are in effect as well,right??
A. Circumcision of the flesh is meaningless unless one's heart is circumscised. Circumcision of the flesh is keeping the commands and is a perpetual sign of the covenant.
you also believe that Christ was send by God so you believe in the preexistence of Christ,right??
A. According to Scripture ALL things are from the beginning. The Messiah was born into this world as prophecied, and as promised to Adam in the Garden of Eden. It was the plan of Elohim from before anything was made that He had created.
also you believe that the OT and the NT are one book good,but so that the OT contains the old covenant and the NT contains the new covenant that replace the old covenant,right??
A. What you call the Old Testament i properly call TeNaK which tranlated means the Instructions (Torah), Prophets (Nebeea'im) and the Writings (Katuba'im) T, N, K
What you call the New Testament, i properly call the Brit Chodesh which means “Renewed Covenant”
you also believe that we are saved by the grace of God,and so not by works ,right??
A. AMENand that Christ died for our sins so that we may be reconciled with God his father,right??
A. AMEN
IS THIS ALL CORRECT??
Pierre
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